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Gestational sack no yolk

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Bwiencke · 10/04/2020 17:39

Hey ladies!

Bit of advice/reassurance needed here please..

I had my first positive pregnancy test result 3 days ago with a clear blue so on 07/03/20.

My periods are everywhere, I had problems with cysts. I had a heavy period 17/01/20 and was in hospital had a follow up scan on 01/02/20 showed the cyst was gone, and I wasn't pregnant etc at this time. The next period/bleed I had after this was 38 days later on 24/03/20 and was only one day.

I’ve had nothing since for 6 weeks. Hence why i got a test on Tuesday. Which I done two of both came up with a strong blue line quite quickly.

Being over excited I booked a private scan, there was a requirement to of had a positive test two weeks before- I fibbed and said I had (I know this is naughty).

So I’ve went along today to have a scan and they’ve said I have a gestational sac that measures 6mm but no yolk sac or embryo visible yet. They’ve said it could be suggestive of a missed miscarriage but they can’t say for definite and refered me to the hospital.

I’ve called the hospital and they’ve said it’s possible I got caught before my period that was due in March and this maybe why they’ve not been to see anything and the midwife will speak to someone and call me back.

My nerves are absolutely shattered and I just don’t know what to think?

Anyone been in the same position?

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Bwiencke · 17/04/2020 21:57

@AintOverUntilTheCatLadySings and @MrsRose2018 thank you ladies for sharing your story and your words advice, experience really mean a lot to me where I am feeling really lost, lonely such a range of emotions.

I know I’m still hoping for the best but I know I’m my heart of hearts it’s very unlikely considering my hcg only rose by 35%, I had severe sickness from day dot with both my boys and I’ve not been sick yet just slight nausea which I think is just anxiety related.

I am preparing myself for the worst now because like @Mrsrose2018 said “The hope and wishing made it so every scan and every blood result was like finding out for the first time all over again” it’s mental torture.

My husband is complete indenial to anything being a problem convinced it’s just early and we will be the exception. Think it doesn’t help that with corona he’s not been allowed in the hospital with me.

I think it it’s not good news I’ll definitely op for the surgical option and being put to sleep as I really am not strong enough to see what I lose.

I apologise for my negativity but just feel pretty final now to me with the hcg levels and sac size and not seeing anything. Feel so guilty for being so upset because I have two children, but this has really hit me hard.

Thanks for all your support girls xx

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Bwiencke · 17/04/2020 21:58

@november90 they’ve not said anything about taking my bloods again? They just said they’ve not doubled today as expected and only increased by 35%. They’ll scan me in a week and there should be development if not will need to make decisions. It didn’t seem hopeful.

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MrsRose2018 · 17/04/2020 22:12

OP I felt every single emotion from sadness to guilt to absolute blind burning rage! It doesn't matter if it's your third pregnancy or your first like it was with mine!

I'll hold my hands up and say I handled my MC TERRIBLY! Behind the anonymity of MN I can tell you I was pretty much drinking from 11am, crying all day being an absolute bitch to my husband and getting by on my sleeping tablets at 4am to pass out. Repeat cycle again and again.

I don't recommend falling apart like and behaving like the absolute mess that I did but you absolutely feel every feeling that comes to you!

A blighted ovum is a rare form of torture because people try to tell you "it was never really a baby" "it's something that never was" that's utter BS.

I can't tell you what is best with regards to your husband... mine tried the positivity to start with but in the end he saw the pain it was causing me! Mine didn't grieve in the "right way" or "with me" and it made things so much worse at the time - however in hindsight there is nothing he could have done right at that time due to my consuming grief.

I know the thought of not having another scan till I've 24th must be killing you but being in and out every 48 hours for bloods and scans may have actually made it worse for you... you now have a week to process and come to terms with everything... I had one consultant telling me there was only 5% chance of viability and another telling me "congratulations on my pregnancy".

Be kind to yourself and for god sakes don't feel guilty xx

denbyellie · 17/04/2020 22:22

When I had 2 mmc at this stage they only offered me managed or natural miscarriages because it's too early for surgical, and honestly natural was the best thing I could've done the managed tablets can make you feel really poorly, and I felt like my body dealt with it naturally then, I conceived straight after my second mmc and now 22 weeks, there is still hope yet stay strong and hope for a little heartbeat at ur next scan xxx

Bwiencke · 17/04/2020 23:04

Thank you @MrsRose2018 you’ve really been a great support to me the last few days, I’m really grateful.

I know I’ll handle things in the exact same way can foresee it.

Yeah the next 7 day wait will torture me, people asking if I know my due date yet, what do I want (boy or girl- just a baby pls) etc etc. But you’re right the constant back and forth was crippling me too. Especially today being called back in the afternoon after being there in the morning.

It’s just so hard as it is for everyone, but with covid my husband is not even allowed in the hospital so I’m literally going in a lone waiting for my appointment which is not usually running to late but it feels like forever, then to get not the best outcome each time alone is daunting.

Thank you @denbyellie I’m so happy for you that you’re having a baby! Thank you for sharing your previous experience with me and your healing, I just don’t know how I’d cope with it myself, you must be really strong! If you don’t mind me asking how long did it take for things to start happening naturally for you?

I know it seems like I’m being very negative, pessimistic it just seems like the odds are stacked against me with the hcg not doubling and the sac being empty at 6mm.

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Bwiencke · 18/04/2020 18:03

Woke up this morning with really bad back ache, hasn’t shifted through the day, no other problems etc though.

Did anyone get bad back pains with blighted ovum/ectopic. I’m not in screaming pain just uncomfortable not sure whether I need to call EPU or see how I go x

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MrsRose2018 · 20/04/2020 12:42

How you getting on OP? 💕xx

Bwiencke · 20/04/2020 14:12

@MrsRose2018 thank you for checking in on me it means a lot Flowers

My back ache has passed, but I’ve not really got any pregnancy symptoms i was constantly needing a wee before and now it’s just stopped abruptly. My sense of smell is very heightened though. Just torturing myself really, took a clear blue how many weeks yesterday and it’s went up a week but I know that can still happen with blighted ovum so just pointless really.

Just wishing the week away until 24th, gutted as it’s my eldest birthday the 24th so going to have to hold it together too.

Hope you’re doing okay xxx

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mum707 · 20/04/2020 15:27

I am on the same boat. Had a private scan on 16/04/2020, as i thought i was more than 8 week pregnant based on my last period date. They said I have gestational sack as well as yolk sack, but no embryo yet. They have estimated preganacy as 5w+4. Have been asked to get scanned again in 2 weeks time. just waiting now.
I totally understand how it feels.

Bwiencke · 20/04/2020 16:10

Hello @mum707 I’m so sorry you’re going through this too. Has the private place referred you on to the hospital? You might need your hcg levels monitoring.

You might just be earlier it’s really promising and such a good sign that you have a yolk sac, with my son I had a scan at 4 weeks and then went back at 6 weeks and was then a embryo and heartbeat. This time around I have just a gestational sac Sad I know it’s hard but I honestly feel and hope you’ll be fine!

Did they tell you your sac size? Mines 6mm and empty.

My periods are irregular and my cycles longgg so not been going off that. do you know your conception date or when you ovulated mine was between 17/03/20 - 20/03/20

Stay strong x

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MrsRose2018 · 20/04/2020 18:49

It the wonderful world of conflicting advice - my pregnancy symptoms continued as "normal" despite my blighted ovum - however it was my first pregnancy so I had nothing to compare it to at the time but in comparison to this pregnancy they were exactly the same!

However my clear clue digital didn't go up date wise so who TF knows?! If your HCGs are still increasing (albeit not "enough") that may explain the increase!

Those digis are BS though. The indicator is pretty much an indicator of nothing though and many women on MN have gotten false reassurances and false scares from them!

Resist the urge to do more pregnancy tests as you have everything from the hook effect to blighted ovums to just flookes! There are so many comments on various posts discouraging women from repeat testing x

Bwiencke · 20/04/2020 19:23

@MrsRose2018 yeah your right I spent about 1172729282 hours researching clear blue digis and they’re a pile of poopAngry

During my ‘research’ (torturing myself) I find this which has blown my mind saying that after 6000hcg doubling time is not expected and moves to over 96 hours.. so put my results in and it says I’m within range?

Obviously I know it doesn’t really mean much because the sac was still empty at my last scan but just wondering why the hospital rushed me back in after the results with such urgency? Confused

Gestational sack no yolk
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Vebrithien · 20/04/2020 19:41

Just wanted to send you a hug.
In July, I went through almost the same thing. At 7w4d, I went to the EPAU, as I was getting yellowish discharge, and my nausea started to dissipate. This was exactly what had happened 4 months earlier, and that had ended at 12 weeks in a MMC.

In July, when I was scanned, there was an empty sac, and I knew absolutely when I had ovulated. Had a scan one week later, sac had grown but nothing else present. Still light yellow/brown discharge. Was then booked in for surgical management, the next week. At 8.4 weeks, sac was 18 mm.

On the day of the surgery, should have been 9w5d, and I had a final scan before the surgery. Sac was 23mm and still empty, and I'd been losing red blood for a day or so.

Had the surgery (the second in 4 and a half months), and this time my blood pressure crashed towards then end of the surgery, so recovery was a little longer, but the immediate reduction in pain was noticeable after both sets of surgery.

No blood tests at all, and my health authority did ERPC (MVA) even though it was a blighted ovum.

Hopefully the details help. May also help to know that I'm currently sat here being kicked at 26 weeks pregnant, despite a massive bleed at 6 weeks where I thought I was losing another one.

MrsRose2018 · 20/04/2020 21:04

So OP, our similarities continue!

This pregnancy I had private bloods done at 7 weeks. I had attached a screen shot of the results.

As you can see my results didn't double. I completely freaked out we went to our EPU and I was prepared to to have a scan and see the worst again. However there was a heartbeat and I'm now 27 weeks.

I don't know about the 6000+ HCG thing but I do know that when you're approx 7 weeks pregnant your HCG rate is more like 72 hours+ which is why mine didn't double and had a viable pregnancy.

I don't know how to justify your results hun I really don't... but at 5/6 weeks (if that's right because I known the ovulation and cycle are squiffy) you should really have a doubling increase xx

Gestational sack no yolk
Gestational sack no yolk
MrsRose2018 · 20/04/2020 21:05

I've uploaded those backwards. The right one was first and the left one was 48 hours later x

mum707 · 20/04/2020 21:49

My gestational sac was 8.2mm at 5w+4 (16 Apr)

Kids3910 · 20/04/2020 22:09

I dont know if anyone will reply to me but I had the exact same as you bwinkie top comment am now currently 5 weeks but been 5 weeks for 3 weeks I know it makes no sence my period was feb 26 and that would make me over 8 weeks I went at ep thinking 6 weeks and was told only sack would be 5 weeks 2days she said no yolk then went back the next weeks and told it's not measuring up to the size of the sack bit theres now a yolk which I couldnt see but sonographer did he said there might be something wrong then told by midwife after, your 5 weeks and your fine everything looks well told her about pains she said there normal am only 5 weeks 4 days and had light brown sticky blood come away before my bath, does anyone have any positive advice please thank you xx

Bwiencke · 20/04/2020 22:12

@Vebrithien I am so sorry that you’ve been through this! Yeah I’m pretty much the same my cycles a mess but I know exactly when I ovulated. It’s just a minding messing scenario isn’t it I’m just clinging on to any hope. I’ve still got nausea at the moment and my sense smell is through the roof, but I’m not needing a wee as much.

@MrsRose2018 thanks for sharing your bloods, I know really that they should be doubling minds just going through roof today, found it really hard today :(

@mum707 aww, I hope the next two weeks flies for you so you can go back and have some good news I’ll be keeping you in my prayers xxx

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Bwiencke · 20/04/2020 22:15

@Kids3910 we’re very similar then because my last period was on 24th Feb! Do you know what size your sac is? I’m so happy you have a yolk now too!

I’m not sure on the spotting I had it with both my boys and I was fine but i was always given an emergency scan following spotting. I would call up EPU just to have their opinion especially with the issues you’ve had so far.

I hope you’re okay, lots of love xx

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Bwiencke · 22/04/2020 12:39

This really does mess with your head doesn’t it, I feel more pregnant today than any other day. Sad

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MrsRose2018 · 24/04/2020 09:55

My thoughts are with you today OP!

I have everything crossed for you 🤞 xx

Cyrilsneer14 · 24/04/2020 10:04
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denbyellie · 24/04/2020 10:32

@Bwiencke so I went in for my bloods n everything they weren't happy with the 48 hour rise so they retested again, still weren't happy so they booked me in for a scan 2 weeks later , luckily I'd started bleeding two days prior , I knew I had miscarried but it eased my mind so so so much because I knew my body was naturally taking care of the process because I was petrified of having to take medication or infection etc, I went to the scan they said yep everything looks fine body's taking care of it naturally, I conceived 14 days after I started bleeding with this liccle baby, you ovulate pretty much straight away so please don't give up hope if this is what turns out to happen for you, xxxx

november90 · 24/04/2020 11:18

Just wanted to let the ones on here who are still struggling to find answers that I am thinking of you and have been keeping my fingers crossed for the best outcome, but also if it's the worst that you stay strong and get your healthy pregnancies soon ❤️

Bwiencke · 24/04/2020 12:48

@MrsRose2018 @Cyrilsneer14 @denbyellie @november90

I’ve been in this morning my scan hasn’t showed much progression still no yolk or fetal pole and sac only grown slightly. Planning to give me a d&c next week but have took my bloods to decide whether I need it any earlier?

They’ve said with coronavirus they’re not putting people to sleep so will just give me a local anaesthetic? Did anyone else have this?

I’m just so confused and deflated. I know I’m exactly 5 weeks post conception today I didn’t know you’d see things so soon and just a bit in denial

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