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Harmony test - any experience?

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Marrilou · 28/08/2019 16:56

Hi all, I'm booked in to have the Harmony NIPT test this weekend when I'll be just over 10 weeks. Just wondering if anyone has any experience of having this and were the subsequent results correct? Also did you choose to find out the gender and was this correct? Many thanks!

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Liverbird77 · 28/08/2019 17:08

I did the serenity test, which is an equivalent test. All correct, including gender. I would do it again without hesitation.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 28/08/2019 17:10

Yeh, got results in a week and found out sex of baby too.

TurquoiseDress · 28/08/2019 17:10

Hi I had it done privately last year in London

Result came back negative ie 1/10,000 chance of one of the trisomies

We did decide to find out the sex as well- it was correct Smile

We had it done at a private clinic, it wasn't cheap but it was most certainly worth it for the peace of mind it gave us.

I was around 10 weeks when I went- had a scan and the blood test

When we returned for the results they did another scan equivalent to the dating scan which I'd had done the previous day at my NHS hospital

Whatsnewpussyhat · 28/08/2019 17:12

Basically if they find male DNA in the blood then your baby is a boy because obviously you wont have male DNA

lifesnotaspectatorsport · 28/08/2019 18:04

Yes, I had it at 10 weeks - low risk result was correct. They wouldn't tell me the sex because I was in China!

LittleDoveLove · 28/08/2019 18:37

Yep I had it, all correct and we did find out what we were having too :)

nuggles · 28/08/2019 18:42

I had one at 13 weeks because I'm 37 and they classed me as high risk because of it. Ridiculous

Results came back 1 in 10,000 a week later.

Didn't tell me the sex - I was told the NHS harmony didn't test for sex

Marrilou · 28/08/2019 18:51

nuggles I'm 37 too but didn't think you could get the test on the NHS, maybe it's area dependant?!

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nuggles · 28/08/2019 18:57

@Marrilou my local hospital (Medway) is trialling the harmony this year.

Geography dependent as usual (probably)

nuggles · 28/08/2019 18:58

Good luck with the test by the way

Marrilou · 28/08/2019 19:05

Thank you! I didn't know about it until a few days ago, stumbled across it in a Google search, quite incredible that it exists! I'm paying £450 but think it's worth it for the knowledge. Glad your results were all ok x

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DreamingofSunshine · 28/08/2019 19:12

I did it and I recommend it to anyone, it's money well spent IMO (better than ridiculous amounts on baby equipment you don't even need!).

I had it at 10 weeks, and it included a scan to confirm my dates and I found out DS was a boy.

FiveFarthings · 28/08/2019 19:19

We did the Harmony test privately. We had already had our scan which had said there was low risk of Downs but we wanted to do the Harmony test to just have that extra reassurance plus for the other genetic diseases. We also had the sex confirmed. It cost us a couple hundred quid to do it but we would definitely do it again. Just keep in mind it will always only ever say ‘low risk’ not ‘no risk’

Lemmecheck30 · 28/08/2019 19:33

I had it done and aside from more accurate results than the NHS test ( for which one of the criteria is your age!!) you get really good scan pictures. We got lots of pictures both visits, and they talked through all the babies developments, what had grown, what looked normal size etc. The NHS dating scan was similar but my partner and I really enjoyed the better experience at the Harmony test.

DappledThings · 28/08/2019 21:28

didn't think you could get the test on the NHS, maybe it's area dependant?!

It is. King's College Hospital offer it if your combined score is higher risk than 1:500 as both mine were.

PetraRabbit · 28/08/2019 21:56

I've had it twice and it's very accurate. I personally (or through close friends) know 3 sets of parents who were given very low odds of Down Syndrome on the standard NHS tests but went on to have DS babies. Only one of them had a parent over 40 (one of the dads). For me the Harmony test is essential.

Rami07 · 28/08/2019 23:10

I did the panorama test. Would recommend for peach of mind. Also got a video sent to me of baby moving

Biggie123 · 28/08/2019 23:16

I did it and all was accurate.
I went to the fetal medical centre in london - which is very respected.
They do a package for £400 but you have to meet the criteria (between exact number of weeks or something). If you are in london it’s worth considering going there

Harmony test - any experience?
TurquoiseDress · 29/08/2019 13:42

@Biggie123

We went to the FMC and were blown away by the experience- nothing like our NHS scan experiences

Also they let us have as many photos as we wanted, compared with trying to cobble together the correct change at our official dating scan

I found FMC very thorough, describing in detail what we were seeing on the scan etc

NHS scan was different, got the job done

But FMC was just a much nicer environment...but I guess yes, you are paying for all that

Aneley · 30/08/2019 16:23

Hi, we did Harmony at 12w with the Birth Company, privately. My appointment was Monday at 5.30pm, I got the call telling me all was ok with the baby (and the sex) on Thursday, 4pm. Very happy with the service, not cheap - but worth every penny.

TheCraicDealer · 30/08/2019 21:34

We did the Harmony- as we're in as in NI they do zero screening before the anomaly scan so it was 100% worth it for us. We waited a bit later until after our 12w scan just in case- it was £400 for the scan and test, but if the scan showed a mc they "only" charged £120 for the ultrasound. It took a week for the results to come back from the lab but again due to being in NI there was probably a short delay with getting the samples to the lab. We found out the sex and it's been confirmed on the scans (both NHS and private/3D) we've had since.

Sayhellotothethings · 30/08/2019 21:57

We had it and it said low risk 1 in 10,000 of all 3 abnormalities, and female. It was spot on! Healthy baby girl.

Marrilou · 31/08/2019 16:07

Thanks for all the comments - v.helpful! Went for the test this morning at the Scan Company and all was fine; scan dated as 10wks 3 days and was lovely to see baby moving around and waving :-) Blood test was fine and should get results in 5-7 days. Will update with results!

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Marrilou · 13/03/2020 07:30

Just an update - all results from harmony test came back fine and said was having a boy. Went into labour two weeks ago and indeed he is a boy and is perfect :-) Would def have test again - so reassuring!

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SarahD19 · 13/03/2020 10:36

Congratulations @Marrilou I am glad to hear you had a healthy baby boy and were not one of many impacted by the misuse of NIPT. However I strongly caution against it being used as a routine for test for “reassurance” within the context of widespread misinformation. Essentially it is still only a screening tool and has similar limitations to the NHS Screening test. It is more accurate for Downs etc and does have higher sensitivity, BUT in my experience, these benefits are widely overstated and limitations often glossed over or not explained. In fact the tests have been widely discussed in ethics committees due to their misuse.

www.nuffieldbioethics.org/news/asa-bans-prenatal-testing-ads-for-the-use-of-misleading-statistics

www.asa.org.uk/news/non-invasive-prenatal-testing-nipt-a-look-at-the-asa-s-rulings.html

I know a lot of people on here think I’m going overboard but I do see it as a bit of a mission to inform regarding the following:

  • NIPT has little efficacy as anything other than a Downs screening tool.
  • It has an extremely high false positive rate for most trisomies and many professionals (wrongly) cite it as anywhere between 91-99% accurate even when the accuracy is nearer 30%.

I am mindful that yourself and others are discussing NIPT in terms of what very much presents as Downs Syndrome focussed lens. In the context of a “high risk“ NHS screening (or other risk assessment contexts), NIPT is indeed indicated to be helpful/robust or even “reassuring” in the event of a “low risk” screening. It is also more accurate at detection of Downs Syndrome within this context than NHS screening alone.

However... NIPT has an exceptionally high false positive rate for pretty much every trisomy except for Downs (although even the false positives, depending on clinical group, for Downs can still be 20-50%).

Given NIPT tests for conditions “incompatible with life”, it is entirely feasible that in seeking “reassurance”, individuals could (and do) receive a “high risk“ screening that would give their baby a potentially fatal prognosis - with minimal accuracy and predictive value. You may think I am being negative, but I have known far too many people face this. And the reality is if you were told your baby was likely suffering tremendously in utero and faced almost certain, painful death, it is naive to think this would have no bearing on how a person might view that pregnancy... in these instances the tests are experienced as far from “reassuring”.

Additionally as so many professionals do not understand or explain the limitations of NIPT, and like yourself (and others on here) see it as holding more accuracy than NHS screening, some even viewing it as diagnostic, this causes sometimes insurmountable trauma.

I am not intending to disregard NIPT as it can be a useful tool. And to those who use the tool in respect to Downs or are fortunate enough to receive a “low risk” assessment, I am in no doubt that it can provide reassurance in the majority of those cases. However it is important people are aware/informed it is very much a lottery and not everyone is fortunate enough to experience the test in this way.

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