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Calling all Mary Cronk'ers

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Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 02:42

@chilledmama if you're still around, and any others???

I guess pregnancy might not be the place to search, but just throwing out ma hook, spread the word...

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brizzlemint · 12/03/2019 03:59

Amazing woman, she gave me some great advice.

Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 05:44

You knew her brizzle? For births , did she attend?

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brizzlemint · 12/03/2019 05:47

Yes, though she didn't attend at births due to distance.

brizzlemint · 12/03/2019 05:47

Why?

Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 22:15

Just because she was such a staunch supporter of women in labour having choice, and how she helped so many women to labour at home, avoid CS, specialising in breech and multiples.

I would have thought many on here would have come across her, and her saying no to consultants ...she made me laugh, she was a force majeure with a toolkit of sayings for the pregnant and labourin woman.

I didn't see any announcement and maybe there was one and I missed it,but if there wasn't one I felt there should be...a celebration of her life and works to the betterment of women's services during labour and being heard!! And not intimidated into birthing in hospital, or forced into cs through fear tactics.

She was an amazing woman, and more than a little bit woo!

Maybe not so many have heard of her, bit i felt sure they would have.

She does have an 'understudy' though, if you could call her that, fully qualified an everything.

Dear dear Mary...from me, and us, RIP

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brizzlemint · 12/03/2019 22:51

She took the trouble to get me to phone her after seeing something online. I won't forget her.

Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 23:03

Oh yes,, that was her...doesn't seem like anyone else has heard of her Flowers

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321zerobaby · 12/03/2019 23:06

What a lovely thread. She attended my home birth, my daughter is 15 this year. Lovely lady.

Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 23:09

I couldnt let this go without putting her sayings here, courtesy of her website:

Mary Cronk is a very well-known, well-respected midwife in the UK. She is an expert in breech birth and helps to train midwives and medics in this area. Here are some comments from Mary which you might find helpful, particularly if told that you are "not allowed" to have your baby at home, or you "have to" be induced, etc. etc..

I am sure that many others will explain your absolute right to refuse any procedure for any or no reason. The law, and good practice is quite clear. A sensible person will listen carefully to any explanations to why a procedure is proposed, and then should she choose not to have XY or Z she just says no or no thank you. The "allowing" is done by YOU. An asssertive approach is worth cultivating. You may care to commit the following phrases to memory and practice them frequently in front of a mirror.
“Thank you so much Midwife Sinister/ Mr Hi-an-my-tee, for your advice. We will consider this carefully and let you know our decision.” Sweet Smile!
This one is most useful in the antenatal stage, though it can be used in labour. It can just take a minute to consider what you either want to know, or what you decide.

“Would you like to reconsider what you have just said!” Fierce glare.
This is useful and, for example, applies to the misuse of the word "allow".

“I do not believe you can have heard what I have just said. Shall I repeat myself? ”

“I am afraid I will have to regard any further discussion as harrassment.”
This is used if the person does not respect your decision or persists in pressing the subject.

“What is your NMC or GMC pin number?”
This is used if 4 is ineffective. If the person asks why you want their pin number, inform them that this is something they might like to consider.

“STOP THIS AT ONCE”.
This to be used in extremis. I am delighted to tell you that this was used AGAINST me by a woman to whom I had taught it. I was doing a difficult VE and was being too persistent. I stopped at once and learnt a lesson.
Do not argue; learn the phrases and keep them or similar for use if necessary. I am informed that it is usually only necessary to be assertive once or twice to have a much more respectful attitude from the people who are actually your professional SERVANTS.
Good Luck And regards
Mary

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Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 23:12

Sorry..the home birth website which her name was a link to, gives her obit.

Mary Cronk MBE

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Smotheroffive · 12/03/2019 23:13

Oh hello zerobaby lovely to see a fellow cronk'er

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