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Pre birth assesment social services

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RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 17:05

I’m looking for some advice I’m pregnant and just had a pre birth assesment. She told me the outcomes were child in need or child protection. I lost my daughter after having her 4 years ago. She said the outcome of this pre birth assesment was there wasn’t any concerns ( they dont think child in need or child protection) it seems to good to be true as there was so many concerns with my first child and none of them were mentioned. What’s the stages now? I haven’t had confirmation yet? Will they have concerns when baby’s born? Will they take baby although there saying the pre birth assesment was done and ok? Do they have to have a meeting now? Will they get back involved

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RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:15

I’m dwleting this post I was asking for advice not negative comments

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MostlyBoastly · 15/02/2019 18:16

You don’t meet threshold currently but, if they’re doing their job properly, they will be keeping very close tabs on you.

RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:17

I have a midwife who is involved with social services well they have been speaking and working together maybe it would only reopen if she had concerns I really don’t know I just don’t want to lose my baby

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RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:17

So if I don’t meet threshold now I won’t meet it unless I give them any concerns which I won’t? Is that what u mean

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MostlyBoastly · 15/02/2019 18:18

You need to be very upfront with your midwives and your health visitor. They will be the point of contact for SS.

MostlyBoastly · 15/02/2019 18:18

Not just you. Your partner. The home environment. Your baby.

RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:23

Yes so no new concerns they won’t reopen on my past as surely they wouldn’t of closed it if they were concerned about my past.

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MostlyBoastly · 15/02/2019 18:25

Do bear in mind this is about your new baby. I can’t speak for the rest of your family history.

SubparOwl · 15/02/2019 18:27

Ok. You have come away from the assessment unclear as to both what information they had about you, and what will happen in the future.

It is important that you clarify these things so you know where you stand and what they expect of you.

Phone them on Monday and ask directly.

LovingLola · 15/02/2019 18:28

He has never been violent to me or another woman

That's just wonderful of him.

StillMissV · 15/02/2019 18:29

It sounds as though the pre birth assessment was positive, they don't seem to think the previous issues are going to apply to your unborn baby. For a child in need the threshold is "development is likely to be impaired by the child's circumstances" and child protection is "significant risk of harm". If they're not taking it any further then your unborn child, in their view, doesn't meet either of these criteria so there won't be any involvement.

For a child to be removed at birth the threshold would be "immediate risk of harm" and you'd be taken to court. It doesn't sound like this is going to happen.

(I work in a child protection setting FYI)

RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:36

Thankyou so much. I made a mistake with my ex I was very young. I’m terified losing my first child broke my heart. Since finding out I’ve completed 30 online courses and attending a domestic violence course. I’m doing everything I can. I’ve held a job down for 4 years and I really have changed and grown up. I told the social worker everything she was lovely

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RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:37

What do I call and ask

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noSh1tSherlock · 15/02/2019 18:50

OP My sister went through everything you mentioned. Her child was removed from her care due to dv. She now has a 1yr old with a new partner who has the same past issues as yours but they got their act together and worked with ss and the baby was not put on child protection and ss discharged them when baby was 6 months. I'm glad you are in a better place now and I don't think you have anything to worry about.

LovingLola · 15/02/2019 18:51

Why can you not get your first child back? Have they given their reasons ? How will they justify allowing you to keep this baby but not let you have your older child ?

RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 18:52

My first child is settled with the family she has been with.

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LovingLola · 15/02/2019 18:53

It sounds very hard for you. I really hope it all works out well for you and your new baby Flowers

TwinkleStars15 · 15/02/2019 18:54

RhianonS10 you really need to be asking all these questions to your social worker, they are the only one who have the answers you need. I’m a social worker, and I recommend you call them.

WithAllIntenseAndPurposes · 15/02/2019 18:56

People seem to be very confused regarding 'getting a child back'
Once a care order has been put in place for the child's protection you can't just overturn it and get them back by being on your best behaviour

ILoveMaxiBondi · 15/02/2019 18:56

OP you should have been given a name and phone number of the person who assessed you. This is who you contact and ask them what happens next. Ask them whether they will be continuing to monitor you or whether they will close your file.

ralphfromlordoftheflies · 15/02/2019 19:09

I am a social worker and I can't believe that not even a child in need plan is going to be put in place, given the history. I'm not suggesting that you haven't made changes or that you aren't capable of looking after your second child well, but it's fairly standard that there would be some level of monitoring on the basis that your oldest child is looked after. But if that's the decision, that's the decision. Ask for a copy of the social worker's assessment.

On another note, if your oldest child is in foster care and hasn't been adopted, I can't understand why you aren't having any contact with them? Not even 3-4 times a year?

RhianonS10 · 15/02/2019 21:27

My daughter has been adopted she was with a foster family who could adopt so she has stayed where she is long term. I don’t get any contact. I am suprised to as I asked for a plan just so I could show and have support. I would love all the help and advice but the social worker said she didn’t think I needed their input and there was families that do. It was said I’m doing all the right things and threshold hasn’t been met. Do you know when the assesment would of been done so I can request a copy and also what the next stages are. Thank you

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