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Low Papp-a

11 replies

AM1994 · 18/01/2019 12:38

Hi all

Just wondering if anyone has any experience with getting a low Papp-a result?

It’s to do with the placenta and can lead to low birth weight baby / early delivery and a few other things from what I’m reading. Just had a letter today to say I had low Papp-a and will need two extra scans to see baby’s growth along the way. It would just be good to see if anyone has experienced it. Currently 20weeks + 5 days and everything else is happy and healthy. My next midwife appointment is 4 weeks away.

Thank you

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jessy2018 · 20/01/2019 04:35

Hey! Can't offer much advice but I have it!
I found out after 12 week scan. Everyone including midwife and consultants told me not to worry about it but it's hard isn't it?
I've been on daily aspirin since 15 weeks.

I'm 27 weeks and got first growth scan next week at 28 - hoping for the best as bump is measuring correct at midwife appointments :)

From what I've read it's pretty common !

Shk38 · 20/01/2019 08:31

Hi
Again I can't offer much advice but was told at 12 weeks I had low Pap a, which poses a risk of a small baby. I was told to take aspirin daily, which I'm allergic to so then was told to do nothing. I'm 30 weeks now at my 28 week growth scan I was told my babies measuring in the 98th percentile. Ie quite big. So I guess try not to worry. Although from my experience easier said then done!
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Hobbes8 · 20/01/2019 08:39

I had low Papp-a in my pregnancy 8 years ago. I had extra growth scans at 28 and 32 weeks, which were fine. Then at 36 weeks they weren’t happy with the babies growth and the blood flow from the placenta and decided to induce me.

My son was born 2 days later and weighed 4lb 11oz. He needed a few days in SCBU and his blood sugar was carefully monitored because it kept dropping between feeds, but we were sent home when he was 8 days old and he’s been fine and completely healthy ever since.

I get the impression from threads on here that there’s been a lot of research into low Papp a since then so I’m sure you’ll get good advice and your baby’s growth will be carefully monitored. I had extra growth scans in my second pregnancy as well as a precaution but my Papp-a levels and growth scans were all fine and she went to full term and was 7lb 1oz.

Good luck with your pregnancy and try not to worry x

5ambreakfastclub · 20/01/2019 09:14

Hi , I had low Papp A when pregnant ( DD is now 14months) , like you I was worried and googled a lot! It did seem a lot of other women I knew had low Papp A as well so it seemed to me to be quite common.I was offered the two extra scans but only ended up having one because they were happy with her growth and so didn't need the second one. In the end she was almost 9lb when she was born. Good luck with your pregnancy, if you are still worried I'd ask your midwife again , they don't mind explaining things twice ( or even three times in my case Blush)

5ambreakfastclub · 20/01/2019 09:15

Oh and I had to be induced at 41 + 2 !

Kayleigh121 · 20/01/2019 10:54

I have low Papp-A and have been told to take aspirin. They have also scheduled extra scans due to this and have said towards the end of the pregnancy if baby isn’t measuring correctly or they’re concerned they will induce me early.

AM1994 · 20/01/2019 12:06

Thank you everyone for your stories :) great to hear some experiences and has really helped ease my mind! Feels like the only thing is sit back and wait! Thank you x

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JingleAllTheQuack · 20/01/2019 14:23

I had low PAPP-A, but baby was born at full term and a healthy weight. She's now 16 months Smile

mightypinkdms · 21/01/2019 06:42

I have had two with low PAPP-A, both boys, both were overdue... one was 8lb12, the other 9lb6. I’m pregnant with my third, and I’m kind of expecting the same again. Obviously, the scans and that are precautionary but the way it was explained to me is that it’s a marker, not a predetermined conclusion iyswim? Bonus was I got to see my babies regularly and my anxiety was supported through lots of appointments 😁 good luck xx

HANKY5 · 30/01/2019 11:12

Hi, sorry to repeat some other people but I wrote this for someone else anyway and so thought I’d copy and paste it to you in case it’s helpful...

Hello, I had a Papp A of 0.26 in my second pregnancy. I was also anxious as a result. I had had an uncomplicated first pregnancy.

Firstly, for me, this made me higher risk for Downs and I decided to get the NIPT to give me more knowledge and reassurance about that. Whether you’d want to know about that and how you’d deal with it is if course very personal. I also had to pay for NIPT at that time. You don’t say but it may well be you are not considered higher risk for Downs anyway - I was in my late 30s which may have also been relevant to the calculation. I was told I was low risk for Downs following that but that the Papp A in itself also would mean some additional monitoring.

It’s quite difficult to stop yourself Googling it, but the whole area of knowledge around Papp A seems to be fairly new and exploratory and there’s quite a lot of contradictory stuff online (mostly, I found, other parents having done their own research online!).

The most useful materials I found basically explained it is a risk factor for potential SGA and pre-eclampsia. There is also some research which shows there is potentially some correlation with a higher risk of a few other complications but there isn’t any research (I believe) which actually explains a connection between any of these things. However, a very helpful consultant explained to me that the risk of any of those things arising is still low. It’s just a risk factor, in the same way as other things (age, previous complications in a pregnancy) might be for other people. The fact is, some years ago, you would not have even known your Papp A results and the likelihood is that the pregnancy would have progressed absolutely fine.

It seems that different NHS Trusts treat the issue in different ways because the research is still developing. I was at a specialist London teaching hospital and there they were trialling giving women with low Papp A results a daily aspirin dose of 150mg (higher than other Trusts and some Trusts are not suggesting anything). You may want to enquire about that if you are anxious and ask to see an obstetrician rather than a midwife if you wish to discuss the details (that’s what I did).

The same consultant explained that the aspirin is not given for thinning blood and so making it easier to get to the placenta (which is what some people seem to understand online). She explained that it is for ensuring the blood vessels in the placenta continue to operate properly.

As well as the aspirin, I was also told I may need extra scans. We had one extra scan, but did not need additional ones beyond that because the baby had been growing well.

Good news! My pregnancy progressed well and I had a healthy little boy in November 2018 at 38 weeks exactly (which is considered full term) weighing 6lb14oz, a little on the small side but no concerns about that.

Interestingly, although again this would be a decision you have to make based on the circumstances at the time, the hospital had suggested that I may not want to go beyond 40 weeks (because that in itself is another risk factor for some of the same things). In the end, I didn’t need to think about that because I went into labour naturally. Honestly, I had been quite worried about being induced if I had gone beyond 40 weeks but I actually needed to in the end because I caught an infection in early labour (nothing to do with the Papp A at all, to do with my waters). I had been slightly concerned about being induced only because my first birth was in a birthing pool using Hypnobirthing techniques and I really enjoyed it and being induced felt a long way from that! In fact, being induced - and then having an epidural - was actually amazing for me and I had wondered what I’d been so worried about!

Most importantly-and it’s easy for me to say now-try not to be anxious because I do genuinely think that has an impact on your mental well-being during the pregnancy and probably on outcomes to. If you can, I would recommend trying to do some relaxation exercises and try not to Google too much!

Sorry for the long message - I had been meaning to write something online to reassure other mums as I know I would have appreciated it when I was pregnant.

Good luck with everything!

Blueberrymtr · 14/01/2020 09:30

I was told I had low Papp-a (0.18 MoM) and worried myself silly about it. I was given regular growth scans until I gave birth. He was born on his due date weighing 7lbs 8 and is a very healthy baby. I would suggest stop googling!! Generally people only post bad stories as they are looking for support or help, so you just don’t hear about the pregnancies and labours that went well.

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