Anti-vaccination mums

[Jummynbean]

Hello, I have always been pro vaccination, however a small part of me is concerned about the amount of people who believe in a link to automatically and other issues, despite all medical advice pointing to the contrary. Keen to hear from mum that chose not to vaccinate to understand why they believe in this link and where they get their evidence from. Is this a conspiracy theory for those untrusting or government and capitalists, or an important cause that is being ignored. All opinions welcome, please try to stay respectful. Thank you

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I have a PhD in immunology and can categorically say its a conspiracy theory. I strongly recommend vaccnating your children and reading up about Andrew Wakefield.

DSIL chose not to vaccinate her 4DS's as now 18 year old cousin is autistic and it was blamed on the vaccination.
A few years ago when it was proven there is no link been vaccinations and austism, she had all 4 vaccinated.
I never considered not vaccinating my DC's.

Pretty much thought so, @Spooples but I would have felt a bit careless if I didn't at least ask. X

To me personally the made up risk of autism is majorly outweighed by the all too real risk of a child catching a disease that in this day and age is so easily preventable.

@Jummynbean - I absolutely understand the need to ask questions and make an informed decision. I think it's important though when it comes to the health of your children that you listen to well-researched medical consensus rather than anecdotal "evidence" from the people of the Internet 🤷‍♀️

Even if there was a link with autism (which there isn't) you need to ask yourself what is worse: your child potentially dying from a horrific and preventable illness, or your child falling into the autistic spectrum. I can't understand how people would prefer to risk their child dying from measles than for their child to not be neurotypical.

But to reiterste: there is no link anyway.

Urgh so many typos. I cannot type on this bloody phone haha

Haha you make such an excellent point!

My baby got a mild version of one of the vaccinated diseases (despite being vaccinated). The vaccine saved her from being very poorly indeed. The mild version of the disease was still heartbreaking and I will never forget it- it still gives me chills now. I hate to think what would have happened had she not been vaccinated.

Clinical evidence and anecdote/opinion should never be given the same weight. It astonishes me how much bollocks is spouted on the internet that people seem to believe. It is dangerous.

I would only not vaccinate based on the advice of a qualified HCP.

I did delay one because DD had a reaction to the previous one. I was advised to delay by a qualified HCP.

That's the advice I take.

Not getting your kids vaccinated should lead to automatic bans from nurseries, childminders etc in early years, as well as from schools if people refuse the MMR. Measles is on the rise and it can kill.

This antivax thing is a very concerning strand of the fake news phenomenon and it really disturbs me that people are so thick that they choose to believe 100% disproved conspiracy theories over and above the entire medical profession.

It is actually isn't just autism that is the risk with vaccines. Every country has a large fund to pay compensation to vaccine-injured children, as the pharmaceutical companies cannot be sued for this.

So vaccination is not risk-free and parents have to weigh up the risks, which is a bit of a Hobson's choice.

Vaccine Injury Comp board in the US anyway was set up so that all of the frivolous law suits etc didnt prevent the manufacture/provisión of vaccines and cause a health crisis. I believe most claims to it are dismissed. Happy to be corrected but it's disingenuous to say because there is a compensation fund it means vaccines are dangerous. It doesn't mean that at all.

If it were true, that vaccines cause autism, then why is it no other countries have made that same link? If it were true, it would produce the same result everywhere and others would have arrived at the same conclusion. Only other English-speaking countries make this argument due to shared media. But others haven't. And some have had their own vaccine/disease crisis that we have never even heard of (I forget which ones off the top of my head - but France believed the hep vaccine caused multiple sclerosis).

So vaccination is not risk-free and parents have to weigh up the risks, which is a bit of a Hobson's choice.

Nothing is risk free. Drinking too much water can kill you. Seat Belts can cause injury.

Humans come into contact with viruses, vaccination allows our immune system to fight them more effectively.

This is an easy read from a couple of years ago.

www.nytimes.com/2015/09/18/upshot/not-up-for-debate-the-science-behind-vaccination.html

"It is actually isn't just autism that is the risk with vaccines"

Err..... autism isn't a risk with vaccines

please try to stay respectful

Haha, good luck with that. I wonder if you posted this to be goady tbh. Anti-vaccination threads are always very inflammatory.

however a small part of me is concerned about the amount of people who believe in a link to autism and other issues,

There are millions of people who are convinced of the existence of all manner of weird and wonderful gods without any evidence. The only way to make the best decisions is follow the verified evidence of professionals. If you give credence to a belief based on the fact that 'some people seem to believe it' you'd have to believe in anything anyone else believes in which is clearly madness.

Please watch this.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=RfdZTZQvuCo

@SimplySteve thanks for being useful 🎉

I spoke what I wanted from this thread was for some one to provide a link to a reputable website that contained proof of a connection. Since no one has been able to do that yet, I would say that it is just a wide spread fear.