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8 weeks, spotting, scan says baby is small

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greeneyedlulu · 13/12/2018 16:09

I'm confused and not sure who to ask so here I am looking for reassurances.

Last period was 18th October and we were actively trying for a baby, had a few signs of pregnancy so I did test on 14th November, the day i was due on, and it was positive so all happy and today I'm 8 weeks according a pregnancy calculator.

Everything has been fine until yesterday when I had some blood in my pants so on advice, ended up in in the early pregnancy clinic this morning for an ultrasound.

The bleeding is light and brown like you get at the end of a period not bright red like something is majorly wrong. I also have cramping too.

So the ultrasound sound shows the baby is there, there is a heart beat but the baby is only 1.7mm big.

I haven't yet had my dating scan or even my booking in appointment because it's all so early however at 8 weeks the nurse said the baby should be 14mm, the size of a kidney bean according to poppy seed to pumpkin.

So 1.7mm is tweeny, say the size of of a sesame seed which put me at 5 weeks I guess.

I have to go for another scan at the end of the week next week so I guess it's limbo time til then.

Has anyone else experienced this?

I understand spotting is normal so could it all be a blimp and I'm just not as far along as I thought? Is it normal then to have positive pregnancy test so early? Based on the positive test, I'm definitely at least 4 weeks but according to the scan size I'm around 5 weeks.

Could everything still be Ok? Fill me with hope xx

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hipstercat · 13/12/2018 16:17

Surely a heartbeat is a very good sign? Did they say how fast it was? If you were 8 weeks and the baby had stopped growing at 5, I'm pretty sure there would not be a heart beat at all or it would be very slow. Could it be that you ovulated much later than you thought? I have definitely heard of very early positive tests so you could just only be 4-5 weeks along!

HayleyHaystack · 13/12/2018 16:39

Hi OP, I don’t want to give you negative information but when I was in this position in April I found it helpful to have some warning.
So I had a very similar thing to you - light brown spotting, I was 8 weeks however I measured 6 at the scan and the measurement was similar to yours (under 2mm). The heartbeat was present but slower than what she wanted to see. The sonographer warned me this could be the pregnancy slowing down/ending. I miscarried naturally literally days later.
Every single person is different and the last thing I want to do is scare you but I also think false hope is dangerous. I was very sure of my dates, like you seem to be, and we were actively TTC so I was very certain.
As a comparison, I had a 7 week scan a month ago and the measurement was 8mm.
Hang in there and I will keep everything crossed for you and please don’t feel I’m trying to be negative. I just found it helpful when someone told me their experience that was similar to mine and I understood the possible outcome. Flowers

mortifiedmama · 13/12/2018 17:01

I have to say, it doesn't sound good. It could work out just fine, but personally I'd be preparing for bad news.

Michelle0507 · 13/12/2018 17:04

I had a scan at 6w and the baby was 1.3mm. At 8w3d it was 17.9 so maybe your date is out a little.

greeneyedlulu · 13/12/2018 17:35

Thank you for your replies.
Yes obviously a heart beat is great news! I didn't even think to ask how fast the heart was beating, just relieved there was one. I'll be certain to ask next week though but I am confused about the size. Would I have had a positive pregnant test if I was only a week gone?

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greeneyedlulu · 13/12/2018 18:56

The bleeding is getting heavier and more bright red. I don't think this is good news

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Michelle0507 · 13/12/2018 19:37

Sorry to read @greeneydlulu. Take care of yourself.

HayleyHaystack · 13/12/2018 19:42

Get yourself to the EPU first thing in the morning. Do you have someone with you tonight who can look after you? I’m sorry you’re going through this

greeneyedlulu · 13/12/2018 20:08

My partner is here, I'm not alone and we've discussed our plan of action for tomorrow morning and going to the epu.
We've also agreed that it's not looking great and fully understand these things happen but doesn't mean we can't try again etc.

Thanks for the support ladies, it really is appreciated xx

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HayleyHaystack · 13/12/2018 20:38

It absolutely doesn’t mean you can’t try again. I’m
11 weeks right now so it happened again for me 6 months later. That’s not to say I wasn’t devastated, its a really upsetting time so don’t think you have to ‘get over it’. This isn’t the final chapter for you. Here for you with any questions xx

hipstercat · 13/12/2018 20:49

Oh, so sorry to hear that. If it does go wrong this time, maybe it is comforting to know that apparently it is very common to conceive again shortly after an early loss. The hormones get the body geared up for a next try, I guess. That's exactly what happened to me after two years ttc! So although any loss is terrible, don't lose hope that you might still have a baby not too long from now (if you want, of course). I hope things work out for you one way or another! Internet hugs xxx

aliceolivx · 13/12/2018 21:13

I am so sorry you're going through this horrible time I hope everything works out for you. god bless you x

greeneyedlulu · 15/12/2018 13:35

Omg I need to rant!!

I've clearly had a miscarriage, literally gushed lots of blood last night. On the toilet passing clots every 20-30 minutes, it is quite frankly horrific!

My partner is being great even if he is overwhelmed and I'm making sure he's ok too as he's never dealt with this before. And he's been great keeping my 4 year old occupied whilst mummy is unwell!

However, I text my best mate this morning to let her know what happened last night and I've heard nothing back in 5 hours, I know she's seen the messages! I'm so upset!

My boss knew about the bleeding before I left work on Wednesday and I had 2 days holiday Thursday and Friday to do Xmas shopping and use up holidays. he was the only one who knew I was pregnant at work as my job involves heavy lifting and he was helping me with that. We are really close or so I thought as he hasn't messaged since Thursday. That's really upset me.

My parents know what happened last night and today my dad texts to say mum is driving him mad so I call him to find out what's going on. Mum has decided she wants to go to the high st herself. Well quite frankly she can't, she's disabled and can't walk 10 meters unaided. At this point I tell my dad I can't come over as I'm bleeding profusely and it not stopping anytime soon, I'm cramping and in quite a bit of pain.
Dad then continues to rant at me for a while saying he's had enough, he wants to kill himself and that i will probably find him hanging like a Christmas decoration when I next go round!!
By this point I'm balling my eyes out, my partner has taken the phone off me and asks my dad what is going to which my dad mumbles something I didn't hear and then ends the conversation!!!

Is it really so hard for the people I care about the most to show me some compassion?
I'm literally mortified by them all!!!! I've had more sympathy from the few strangers on here than I've had from real life family and friends and I'm so shocked and overwhelmed by everything and feel so shit by their reactions or lack of and by my dad!!!

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Iswallowtoothpaste · 15/12/2018 14:07

@greeneyedlulu

I’m so sorry, they all sound absolutely horrific. It’s an awful time to miscarry too, especially when your have little ones and they’re wanting to go places around Christmas time. You feel as though you have to put a brave face on it for them which is so difficult when your heart is literally breaking.

Shame on your friend, it’s so hard to know what to say but sometimes a simple ‘I’m so sorry, I’m here if you ever need to talk’ is enough.

My friends really shocked me when I had a MMC back in June. The one that I thought would be straight round and offering me support kept her distance and the one that I thought would run a mile came round that night and was amazing with me. My family we’re much use either but my partner was a god send like yours.

I’m so sorry you’re having to go through this. It really is the absolute pits, ignore your dad, he sounds like a typical selfish arsehole (my dad is the same)

greeneyedlulu · 15/12/2018 14:17

Thanks toothpaste.... in fairness I just got a message from my best mate and it looks like she typed it this morning but it must not have sent before she left the house as she offered to have my son so that has made me feel better.

Thank you for your message, it's made me feel better

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Alwaysgreener · 15/12/2018 14:30

Flowers greeneyedlulu

Glad your BF got back to you, when things like this happen, you really do get to see whether you're surrounded by selfish or selfless people!!

My dad removed himself from his fatherly duties when I was 5 and although still 'about', keeps his convenient distance!! My mum is great but when I really need some emotional back up, she seems to disappear.. This was mighty evident when I had a MC quite frankly, it was all a bit of an inconvenience to her and she obviously didn't really get why I was so upset. Yet when other people have miscarriages I get to hear all about how awful it is for them?!! And god forbid, her cats are ill.. I have to run round with supplies and bags of sympathy! Family are bloody weird and I've worked out that I can take or leave them. My AMAZING DH feels the same about his! I'd be lost without him, he's my rock and I e no friends nearby x

Mummyoftwo91 · 15/12/2018 14:33

Oh wow op you poor thing! Try to focus on yourself right now thank god you have your dp, sending you lots of love ThanksThanks

HayleyHaystack · 15/12/2018 14:38

Christmas brings out the world in people sometimes! All sounds shit. Nothing I can say but get through as best you can, it’s always the ones you don’t expect to ‘show up’ that end up surprising you. Hope this passes quickly Flowers

greeneyedlulu · 15/12/2018 15:16

Thanks ladies!

I am so shocked about my dad saying that stuff to me. My partner went round there to tell them to behave as we have our own problems to deal with right now and I'm strangely very proud of him right now!

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Iswallowtoothpaste · 15/12/2018 15:33

@greeneyedlulu I’m so guilty of typing messages and then forgetting to press send! I’m so pleased that she’s got in touch

greeneyedlulu · 15/12/2018 15:50

Lol we've all done it but you know when you're feeling extra sensitive and emotional, It's just worse because you feel lonely and lost!! That's just how I was feeling earlier.

I'm so happy to have had responses from you all even though I was seriously just ranting. It felt better just to get it off my chest, didn't think anyone would respond but I'm glad you all did.

Honestly feeling the love xx

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hipstercat · 15/12/2018 21:21

Ranting is what the internet is for! :) Sorry to hear you're having such a miserable time and feeling unsupported. Maybe some people (like your boss) think that asking questions so early in pregnancy may be upsetting and are giving you space for that reason? Doesn't account for your family's behaviour though, that's just shite. Really glad your partner is stepping up for you!

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