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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 10/12/2018 20:15

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

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Reastie · 15/01/2019 13:23

Meg 9 weeks is often the worst for people, so I know that doesn’t help you now but hopefully things might improve for you. I’m sorry you had to shut down the business but also I’m glad you can get some rest.

Eal fingers crossed today isn’t too bad after yesterday.

Hair that’s what my gp was told by the hospital registar [eyeroll] . I don’t kmow why some doctors seem to make up the wrong maximum dose. All I can think is they’re told this to keep costs down. I had to get another consultant to tell my gp the correct maximum dose for her to be prepared to increase my dosage. I’m not sure if you’re doing all this via hospital or gp, if hospital then you need to get to speak to a consultant and show them the drug recommendations for HG which give 8 mg 3 times a day. I hoe you have more joy. I’m not sure about the 8 hour things maybe someone can advise on here? I was just told three times a day and have regularly been taking less than 8 hourly as having it at roughly breakfast lunch and dinner time.

Reastie · 15/01/2019 13:25

Ps I made it outside again today! Forced myself into town, 45 minutes out and nearly turned the car around and went home but I need to see what my limits are and try to do normal things. I hope I don’t have a bad evening and recovery day tomorrow. It would be so lovely to be able to manage small trips out not worrying about the fallout. Plus I have to get it together enough for my 20 week scan which is in 2.5 weeks.

beanhunter · 15/01/2019 13:43

I think I’ve broken myself. Come to London for a meeting and feeling sure. Vomited 8 times so far today and still have to finish the meeting and get the train home.

Hairgician · 15/01/2019 14:56

Eal yes am pretty sure i was doing 6 hrly last time myself, going to check nice guidelines. 8 hrs means next dose at 4pm. Not feeling too rubbish just now so might be ok to hang on.

norbert23 · 15/01/2019 15:32

Hi can I pop in for some advice? I was here a year ago but I had a miscarriage. I'm 7 weeks and have been trying to find ways of avoiding the HG pregnancy I had with my DD, so far it's been manageable and I've been taking cyclizine. It knocks me out but has stopped me being sick so far, I just feel rancid all day long.
Went to the gp today to say I can feel it building up, threw up loads this morning and is there anything else I can take pre emptively so that the vomiting doesn't get out of control like before. Given Avomine which is actually what I had last time in another form and what I asked to avoid, it was ok but no help with the amount I was being sick really. I don't think he would give me anything different unless I get to a point where I'm sick all day long and lying in a dark room again - tempted to go private and just pay someone to take me seriously. Sorry for the long post - has anyone else had any luck with pre emptive treatments and / or asking for better meds from their GP?

Hairgician · 15/01/2019 15:50

Go and see another gp, others on here would recommend taking nice guidelines with you, or ring pregnancy sickness support as they will be able to advise you also.
Better to get on top of it now, so id be refusing to leave without something else. Ask them for some ondansetron to try alongside cyclizine. Im on 3 diff meds plus ranitidine so your gp is being stingey.

Reastie · 15/01/2019 15:54

Norbert something to bear in mind with my experience is I was concerned before getting pg that I wouldn’t be prescribed medication. I was so worried about this I contacted a local private gp to ask if he would be willing to prescribe medication if nhs wouldn’t. The response I got was that he would only prescribe if supported by and in consultation with my nhs gp, so check ahead before potentially wasting money on a consultation. I also got so desperate that I tried to get private appointments with obstetricians to get medication, but some wouldn’t see me for this issue because of their insurance not covering it (I did find one that was prepared to see me and potentially prescribe but by then I had got the medication from my gp). The advice I got from pregnancy sickness support was if gp will not prescribe then you ask for gp to refer you urgently to an obstetrician to get the medication. It can be a private or nhs referral. To see a private obstrician I was told I’d need a gp referral. If you call pss they have a list of specific consultants that have undergone their medication training so might be more willing to prescribe than others so you can ask for this named person to your gp. Initially I’d book an appointment with another gp who might be more sympathetic and take along a copy of the medication guidelines to show them what alternative there are as you can add medication on top of the cyclizine you’re taking, and I believe avomine works in the same way as cyclizine on the body whereas other drugs work in different ways and if no joy from them then get them to make the referral. I really hate how we have to fight so hard when we are feeling so bad, and all the advice is that preempative is the way to go. I hope it doesn’t get too bad for you.

norbert23 · 15/01/2019 16:04

Thank you @Reastie and @Hairgician - I needed to hear that I'm not being demanding or overly dramatic about it. Sometimes I question myself as it's a good 4 years ago since I was pregnant and miserable, he did mention ginger a lot and how it might not be that bad this time Hmm

I know there's a fab female gp there but she's so popular it'd be weeks before I could see her. It's so frustrating. It's good to know I could combine meds and see if that works, I'll try to call tomorrow morning and get another appointment with one of the female gps. I doubt I'll even bother fetching the prescription for promethazine as it'll be a waste of time. Someone get me a time machine to skip to 20 weeks!

Reastie · 15/01/2019 16:07

Norbert if I find that time machine I’ll be in it to get me to full term! Can you get an emergency apt with nice gp? Btw female gps don’t always equal more sympathetic and male gps can be fab too, it really depends on the person.

Hairgician · 15/01/2019 16:11

Yea just ring and tell them you need an appt today as you are preg with hg and not keeping anything down.

CalmerComber · 15/01/2019 16:32

Hi all! Just a quick update - went for my reassurance scan this morning and there are TWO BABIES in there! So I’ll not make it to August 5th and am looking at early-mid July. @Hairgician we need to become best friends!

HG glamour moment: had a huge vom when she popped the internal probe in there. Yuck.

Reastie · 15/01/2019 17:06

Wow calmer that’s lovely news, how exciting, twice the fun!

LucindaE · 15/01/2019 17:16

norbert23 I remember the name. Sorry about your mc; that is extra awful if you've had HG. Welcome back. I so agree with others about obtaining effective meds early, either by seeing another GP if possible or by ringing Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020. They will ring back with great advice. An anti acid can make a big difference. Have you got kesostix to check for the early stages of dehydration?
Some liquids that have helped others are ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, flat full sugar coke, Robinson's fruit drinks, Dr Pepper, Elderlower water, Elderflower cordial and tonic water, tonic water, soda water, fizzy water, ice cubes, Lucoazade, lemonade, fizzy orange, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), Iron Bru, and cocoanut milk. Foods of a sort are tinned fruit, cuppa soup, baked potatoes, nibbles of chips and crisps, slices of melon and mango, Scotch pancakes, biscuits and cheap ice cream. The time machine would certainly be appreciated on here. Grin
beanhunter Oh no about eight vomits and having to hang on at work. How are thngs now?
weebean I am so glad this thread has helped. It's good that you have work colleagues who will understand. It's great to love your job.
Will they allow a staggered return? It is so much less exhausting to ease back into work. Don't push yourself too hard.
Reastie Well done on on getting out of the house.
eallison How are both yourself and |LO now?
Meg I am so glad you have got Ondansetron. I don't know why more GP's don't at once prescribe a laxative along with it, and maybe an anti acid too, as it helps so many sufferers.
I hope everyone is coping. Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked or with whom I have cross posted (I thought I'd make people laugh with a bit of ridiculously formal grammar)!

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Nighttimenope · 15/01/2019 17:46

Hi guys. Just a q about heartburn! I bought myself some ranitidine (thanks for the tip!) but since the leaflet says to check with doc I phoned to do so (also to confirm it was ok with other drugs I am on) but the doctor basically told me it’s not ok. She said that that’s the level of medication for people with stomach ulcers and she would only really be happy with me taking gaviscon. When I told her I’d gone through 3 600ml bottles in 8 weeks she told me I was better doubling my dose than using ranitidine. What does anyone recommend?

beanhunter · 15/01/2019 17:49

On the train home. Vomiting in train toilets is not fun. Bed for me as soon as I’m back.

Reastie · 15/01/2019 18:04

Nighttime it’s difficult. My gp last pg was unwilling to prescribe anything other than gaviscon despite the fact I was glugging it down from the bottle bit still sufffering a lot to the point of having to sleep sitting up she didn’t care. Yet I know loads of pg people that have been prescribed ranitidine or something beginning with o that I forget the name of. It’s frrustrating. It must be safe (or thought too be safe) given so many pg women are on it but it seems unfair some aren’t willing to prescribe. I can’t help with dose in afraid but someone on here will be able to.

Bean how miserable, train loos are grim at the best of times. Hope you get home soon and get some rest to feel better.

11yrgap · 15/01/2019 18:10

Hi norbert definitely see another doctor. I saw an out of hours doctor at a hub service connected to my surgery. If it got really bad I would have gone to a walk in centre.

Hairgician · 15/01/2019 19:30

Oooh congrats Calmer😁 yea am thinking prob mid july be more likely for me! At least we wont have to suffer so long!!

Ranitidine they wouldnt prescribe in a@e for me but more than happy on ante natal ward.

avacadooo · 15/01/2019 21:15

In there August chat and a couple of people have mentioned you guys. I'm so grateful to have found a group in the same boat as me.
I've been on cyclizine which did nothing and now stetamil which isn't touching it either and been signed off for four weeks now, I'm only ten weeks.
I reached breaking point the other day I'm so fed up with not having my life anymore and dream about being able to drink whatever I want without it coming back up with a vengeance.
How is everyone coping with their Oh's? I feel so bad my husband works 60 hour weeks and then has to come home to babysit me and clean, he's like poor Cinderella right now and I feel so so guilty but he's very understanding and hates me saying sorry cause he knows I'm not just being lazy.
I feel like nobody else understands I've had my friend mock me cause I'll be feeling like this the whole way and to start got called a drama queen for it. People keep telling me I need to eat for the baby which Is doing my head in.

Also one more person suggests eating ginger biscuits to me and I'll thump them 😂

eallison88 · 15/01/2019 21:19

Argh! Big long replies typed up, phone had a hissy... gone! Will get laptop out in the morning and try again.

Today's been ok. I've been tired but no more sickness than I have done. Even with steroids down to 40mg. Getting my hair done tomorrow in preparation for going back to work - hopefully give me a boost of confidence!

Wishing everyone a peaceful, restful night. Fingers crossed my son sleeps a bit better...!

Hairgician · 15/01/2019 22:11

@avacadooo you are not alone🤣 i feel useless too. Oh left to sort cooking and washing.

Another lovely symptom im having is the excess saliva.🤮 my mouth feels minging and ive noticed am dribbling loads in my sleep🤫😳

avacadooo · 15/01/2019 22:14

@Hairgician does your mouth just feel wrong?! I've got a spit bucket for that reason 😂😂

I'm so glad I'm not alone, My best friend is pregnant ands won't shut up about how amazing she feels and just brags about how amazing her pregnancy is that I try to avoid her now.

evuscha · 15/01/2019 22:17

avacadooo that is so annoying having people mocking you. To be fair when all we ever hear about morning sickness (morning, yeah right) is that it's fine by week 12 and that you take some ginger and all is great, it's hard to get it across to people that actually it is a lot worse for some of us. I could never imagine feeling like this before it happend to me. But good that your DH is supportive! Mine has been great too, although I need to keep reminding him that even though I'm not throwing up at this minute, I still can't go for a long walk or whatever. The general tiredness and constant low energy is harder to explain - he gets that part where I have my head in the toilet Grin

Good luck to everyone who has to go to work! I've been working from home all this time with the odd sick day when needed, so really lucky not having to do my usual hour commute each day. Bean that sounds horrible! And an extra Flowers to everyone having existing DC at home, that must be so hard!

I'm almost 13 weeks and overall it's definitely better than ever before, especially when it comes to being able to eat and drink. I still am sick but not every day, maybe once every 3 days. Like you Reastie it gets worse for me every time I try to be active. The other day I went to meet friends for a couple of hours to a cafe nearby - 10 minutes walk each way - I was exhausted after that and sure enough throwing up all morning the next day. It's frustrating really, I miss my life and going out and doing things.

toomuchfornow · 15/01/2019 22:21

I don't know where to turn. I have an 11 month old and suffered from horrendous HG up until the moment I gave birth - MW said she had never seen anyone vomit so much during labour. Anyway I have complete anxiety over it and have just found out that I am 8 weeks pregnant. I am considering a termination because I'm petrified of going through it again especially with a baby this time. I was sick for the first time yesterday and ran to the GP for drugs. I've not been sick since but it's there just waiting. I can not cope with going through it again. Sorry not sure what I need from this post, but needed to share my thoughts. I feel like that's the worst reason for a termination ever but I just don't feel strong enough to do it all again 😭

avacadooo · 15/01/2019 22:39

@evuscha thank you, I've just felt nobody understands and to be told I'm harming the baby because of it or having someone laugh at how sick I'm being is angering me.

You brave souls with going to work, I'm in awe of you!!

@toomuchfornow this is my first pregnancy and it's planned so I don't know how it is with having a child but I do know that lasts week I wouldn't have cared what happened to it and I know that's really insensitive to say and I have also considered getting rid because I can't cope so please don't feel bad about thinking like this, I know I wouldn't personally have the strength to do this again. Whatever you choose you'll pick what's best for you.💕