Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

Hairgician My goodness, you cooked for 14 with Hyperemesis?! I am so ashamed; I have never cooked for that many, without it. Well done. And twice...Do try and rest after that.
eallsion That sounds grim. I hope you survived the journey and feel better at home. At least you don't have to put on a brave face for anyone there.
Reastie Well done on yoga!
*HoneyPea All luck with the meeting. There is good advice on requesting meds on the websites linked in the introduction to this thread.
Olivecake Great advice.
canonlyhope I so agree with others; if cyclizine isn't helping with the sickness you need somehting stronger.
SeaEagleFeather It was a nice Christmas, thank you. I am glad you had a good one. Must be cold in the Netherlands.
I hope everyone is coping. Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Hi all, hope you all had a lovely Xmas. I’m signed off til Thu so go in then for couple of hours. Been ‘doing well’ so hoping anxiety doesn’t flare up the sickness. I’m just so tired though. The tiredness is a killer. For a bit of light heartedness 😂 how would you all approach this? My friend is due just before me and we’re both having girls. What if ... she picks the name I wanted 😂 x

We went home and straight to hospital. Have been admitted and on a drip.

Oh good, I'm really glad you're getting treatment ealli, it sounded like hell. I hope your husband lets the family know!

Im on my 4th bag of fluid and they expect this will be the last one I need. I've got a urine infection, which am now on antibiotics for. Which probably isn't helping matters. Doctor suggested reducing steroid dose as probably steroids causing the god awful indegestion. I resisted so he's agreed initially to double my heartburn meds and see how I get on. Then we'll revisit steroids reduction tomorrow.

Oh eal poor you. I’m glad you went home and I’m glad you’re getting fluids at the hospital. This really has been such an awful hG pg for you. Take it easy andhope you get lots of rest and relaxation once you get home.

I saw poor birthdaykake on another thread and she’s still really struggling with awful nausea and gp continues to refuse her medication.

Bought some salad in the hope I could try some but I can’t face it.

Glad to hear you are getting sorted eal.
Currently on sofa watching cocoon and sipping iced shloer again. Hate the after taste fizzy drinks leave and feel guilty for drinking it but cant manage water.
Had some toast and dairylea earlier and spent rest of time trying not to puke it up. So far so good.

Aw eal! I'm sorry you're having such a rough time. Hopefully these fluids will help, and plenty of rest! I hope the family is made aware of you having to go to hospital after the last few days too!

How's everyone else doing?

On the mention of schloer, I'm completely gutted I've gone off it. I swear my taste buds have changed, I used to love schloer and now it tastes like a shitty sugar free version, no matter which one I drink. Noticed the same with Sunny D. I know these are drinks I should probably avoid anyway but I'm so sick of drinking water and Lucozade.

Looks like my 2/3 days of not throwing were not the end, thrown up every day since, yesterday it was 6 times despite hardly eating. Definitely seen an improvement in the nausea though and that has meant I'm feeling better mentally. Does anyone else just not feel pregnant? I don't at all, just sick. It's part of the reason we've booked a gender scan for next week, to make it seem a bit more real, I'm scared that I haven't bonded with this baby yet. I know it's still early days (15w) but everyone is expecting me to be so excited and in love already and I'm just fed up to be honest.

Oh no weebean, I thought it might have been past you. I don’t know about not feeling pg, I feel so rough I can’t really see past that iykwim.

Re drinks, check the label as lots of fizzy drinks have changed their formula recently so they won’t have to pay the sugar tax so they used to have a lot of sugar but now have sweetener (or mix of sugar and sweetener).

Hair I still can’t get over how you managed to cook for all those people feeling so rough,

Unfortunately not Reastie although definitely feeling a wee bit more like myself now the nausea isn't so awful and doesn't last all day. I know exactly what you mean! Are you starting to see any improvement at all?

Interesting about the sugar tax, I hadn't realised formulas had changed. I'm glad it's not just me but I'm in mourning for drinks I used to love lol

I'm home. I had 4 bags of fluid. Diagnosed with urine infection so on antibiotics for a week and then need to get GP to retest urine. There was discussion of reducing my steroids as consultant thinks the steroids are the cause of the heartburn suddenly going mental. I resisted so they suggested trying higher dose of omeprazole (I was under the impression I was already on highest, but they've doubled it to 40mg x2 daily). I'm Hoping that the higher omeprazole, clearing the urine infection and all of the rest will get me back to where I was. I've 0also had the runs a bit today, so imagine thatbwont be helping the bigger picture. I pushed for discharge cos of hospitals inability yo provide me with food I can eat. I'm a little anxious about whether I made the decision, especially as the heartburn has got worse since getting home. However, I know my husband wouldn't have supported me coming home if it was the wrong decision. And tho I was happy yo discharge myself, I didn't need to in the end cos the doc agreed with what I was saying about food.

I went back to work at this point in my pregnancy last time. Admittedly, it was too early and i had a bit of a relapse. But I'm so, so far from that this time. And I hadn't realised how much I'd been hanging on at least starting to feel better at this point. Instead I ended up in hospital again. So I feeling much anger right now. With my stupid bloody body and it's inability to just be pregnant.

Eal I totally understand the frustration with your body. I really hope once the infection clears, you’re stabilised back on the medication and the heartburn settles down you’re feeling better. Don’t compare yourself to how you were coping last time as things have been different this time. Last time you coped throughout with ondansetron, this time it’s very different. I’m in awe of how you’re coping with what you’ve been given, you’re amazing for doing this and it will get better, but I hope you’ll reassess going back to work so soon as you need to get yourself stable first.

Weebean having a bad evening tonight again :( just focusing on breathing to try to get me through, gah I hate this so much, hurry up time!

Hello. Just checking in.
I’m not sure I have HG with this pregnancy but I do have debilitating nausea. I’m 7+2 and have been in bed for 3 days. I’ve only been sick twice today. My mouth is constantly full of saliva.
I had a HG pregnancy with my now 3 year old with numerous hospital stays. It cleared up around 14-15 weeks I think. So fingers crossed the same this time.

Eal hopefully you will start to get on top of things again now antibiotics are going in.

I really dont know how i managed christmas day or boxing day dinner!! Fit for nothing now! Had chip butty for dinner . Was tasty but having to fight to keep it down. Sipping at a galaxy hot choc drink now which seems to be helping.

You’ve had such a hard time eal, hope you feel better soon and family support you a bit more xxx

Hello!
So I pop on this thread every now and again just to see how people are doing.

Only this time I'm back with a BFP so I'm already expecting HG to soon kick in as I'm currently 5 weeks according to all the data I keep inputting on various things. Last time the sickness kicked in around then or the week after so yay....

Anyway, LucindaE hello and sorry to be joining but there we go...

deaddoorpost congratulations! Fingers crossed you avoid the scourge this time...! I'm on my second pregnancy (My son was 3 in September). Unfortunately for me the HG kicked in earlier and harder this time, and has generally been a while other level of joy this time. The most important and useful thing I've found is being proactive and fairly assertive in getting the treatment that you know you need. Have you started meds already? I started cyclizine as soon as had a positive test. The guidelines recommend starting meds even before symptoms on subsequent pregnancies.

DeadDoorpost congratulations on your pregnancy! I really hope it will be better for you this time around - as eal mentioned just go and get yourself on medication ASAP and be proactive about anything that worked for you last time.

Hope you are feeling a little brighter today eal after your hospital trip.

I also have picked up a sickness bug and throwing up every hour all through the night and morning so far, totally miserable and a big flashback to feeling like weeks 8-10 of my pregnancy! Just trying to keep anything I can down and laying in bed all day but feel utterly crap. Can’t wait for the baby to get here now but have a feeling it’s going to be very late!

Congratulations @deaddoorpost ☺️ Here's hoping you escape it this time!

Sorry to hear you had such a rough evening Reastie, I dread evening/night time. Hope you were able to get a good night's sleep and some relief.

I'm doing my usual morning routine of lying in bed waiting to vomit/for the nausea to pass. Anything I eat or drink before 12ish comes straight back up, getting up to use the bathroom makes me puke, I hate this! I really don't think we'll be having any more after this, there's no way I could risk this happening again with another child to look after, I know I wouldn't cope.

Weebean, just so you know, I was adamant I would never have another dc, to the point I’ve told everyone there is zero chance of me ever having another so they’ll probably all assume this one is an accident! Dh nearly had the snip a few years ago as I was so convinced I could never do it. It’s taken me 7 years to get to the point of knowing it’ll be awful but hoping I can just get through it for the purposes of having a life afterwards of enjoying 2 dc. I’m sorry you’re still feeling rubbish, I thought things were getting better? I recommend meditations by honest guys on you tube when you’re lying in bed trying not to be sick, the distraction and calming effect they have do help a little (and help waste a bit of time).

Olive how rubbish, at least it shows how far you’ve come, and not long now...

Hi deadoor and congrats, I hated that waiting for it to start properly time, I was so anxious and full of dread knowing it was going to get worse. Can you get to the gp tomorrow to get some medication?

Got through yesterday evening thank you. I hate how almost every day come afternoon the downward slope starts and nothing stops it. I’m grateful generally it’s not as constant asbefore but I dread it every single day.

Thank you for that Reastie, maybe I'll change my mind once this is all over. I am reassured by the fact so many women go on to do it again. I had nearly 3 full days of just mild nausea and no vomiting last weekend and hoped that was it but seems not. The nausea is so much better though, gone from all day and being woken up at night to just morning, evening and being woken up, still vomiting 3-6 times a day. 16 weeks on Friday and hoping it will stop.

Glad your nausea seems to be easing a little bit too but it's still horrible, especially when you know it's going hit and it can't be stopped. My doctor said the fact the nausea was easing was a good sign, hopefully it's the same for you!

weebean similar to reastie, I spent 3 years being absolutely adamant I was done with 1 child. Hubby and I started discussing possibly another February ish. We planned and prepped (And caught first month off the pill, in September, which was unexpected to say the least!). We saw the GP in advance and got a prescription for cyclizine to take as soon as a positive test. I put some weight on (So had some to lose!!) And we tweaked our eating habits to little and often in preparation for being preggers. We also had a plan for childcare for our son, and told family we were going to try for another baby as we knew we would need their support with our son. We then told them pretty much immediately that I was pregnant, so they were ready to step in with childcare and other support. Another pregnancy is doable (equally, completely understandable to not have another!), but i think it requires more planning and prep than most people who decide to have another. Whilst there have been times when having another baby has felt like the worst decision I've ever made, every time my son talks about "our baby" and the things we'll do when "There's 4of us in our family" and the things he wants to do with our baby "to help it be happy" reminds me that the pregnancy is only a short part of his life, and what he gets and what we will have as a family is worth it. (I feel less like this when I'm head deep in the toilet and see no way forward, admittedly!!)

^ I did everything eal did before getting pg too, it definitely helped having everything in place and knowing there was a plan with childcare etc. Tbh despite all this I was still so scared of getting pg I’d sometimes burst into tears and start shaking after dtd with dh, it’s a really big thing for anyone but especially when pg has such an effect. But, essentially, never say never!

Thanks ladies, I'm hoping this time is better too. Not that I'm holding out much hope as 2 weeks ago I felt really ill while out at a restaurant for no reason.
I also noticed today I'm not as keen on sweet foods which happened last pregnancy too so I guess I've just got to wait.
As for meds... we're currently visiting family but will be home next week so will contact my GP then. Last time he was really good about meds so fingers crossed I get them early this time

I think I've finally realised just how fragile my health is today. This most recent hospital visit has really knocked me. I've definitely been more ill in this pregnancy, but this visit has made me realise how on edge my health is, and how easy it is to knock it over the edge. I think it's probably a good thing in a sense, as I'm gonna be much, much gentler with myself. I asked a friend if she could come round and tidy my house post Christmas/being away. I wouldn't have done that a week ago, and would definitely have just done it myself. But im finally recognising that just cos I probably could have put the wash on, put some toys away, loaded the dishwasher etc, that it would have knocked me out and made me feel worse. Doesn't stop me feeling inc4eibly awkward sitting here doing nothing while she bustles, tho!