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Perfect Prep - Is it Safe?

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sammy891 · 26/01/2018 10:08

I've been looking to buy the Perfect Prep machine but it is a lot of money to spend and I'm worried about the safety issues because it did come up on BBC Watchdog. Is mold in the tubes and bacteria really a problem?

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Eeeeek2 · 26/01/2018 10:11

Not had the problem myself, I believe the people who got mould we using brita water filters rather than the correct ones. Perfect prep also changed their cleaning advice and suggest you use steriliser fluid (ie Milton) now too.

cherryontopp · 26/01/2018 10:11

Not if you clean it regularly according to the guidelines and use official tomme tippe filters.

I've known people have them and theres is completely fine.
Id seen the articles on the mouldy tubes and that's definitely a build up over nit cleaning the machine regularly enough.

Wheelerdeeler · 26/01/2018 10:12

My boy is almost 10 months and this machine is a godsend. Best thing we purchased.

Alisvolatpropiis · 26/01/2018 10:13

I used one and experienced no mould build up. As pp’s have said, the people who did experience it didn’t seem to be using the correct filters.

It was my favourite piece of baby “kit”.

CoodleMoodle · 26/01/2018 10:15

We used ours every day for two years, no problems at all. We ran the cleaning cycle regularly. About to get it out for DC2 and after running the cleaning cycle and fitting a fresh (official) filter it should be fine.

It was the best thing we bought, without a doubt.

sammy891 · 26/01/2018 10:16

Thank you for the reassurance, we will definitely stick to the regular filters and look up how to clean with Milton.

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mindutopia · 26/01/2018 11:47

It doesn't make formula the way you're instructed to on the package and honestly, it's probably just as easy to make it that way yourself without an expensive piece of kit to do it. It's making the proper way it tells you to that's a bit of a pain. But as far as I know there haven't been any babies who have become seriously ill from it (as far as I know, I didn't see the BBC report). That said, honestly, it's easy enough to do it yourself if you want to do it that way (shot of hot boiled water and filled to warm with cooled boiled water) and it saves you on cleaning the machine and changing filters, etc. But I think it's up to what you're comfortable with. I think it's worth trying to do it yourself first though if you are concerned about the cost. I did and I didn't feel like I needed the perfect prep once I got a system down. And I was grateful not to have anything else cluttering the counter or needing to be cleaned.

Jupiter15 · 27/01/2018 08:21

No, they aren’t safe. They don’t make the water hot enough up kill the bacteria in formula.

cherryontopp · 27/01/2018 09:57

Jupiter they give a shot of boiling hot water, then you put formula in, then it gives you more filtered water to make it the right temperature.
Please do your research before making comments and advising people

fruityb · 27/01/2018 09:58

I loved ours and it never got mouldy. We changed the filter as soon as the light came on, cleaned it regularly with steriliser tablets and never left water standing in it. It was amazing and I swore by it. Night feeds could be done and dusted in 20 minutes.

Keep it clean and it’ll be fine.

Suzysuz · 27/01/2018 10:07

People either love or loathe them!
We just bought a multi-temperature kettle, boiled at 70+ added half hot water to the powder, shake so fully dissolved and then added remaining water from previously cool boiled water.

TittyGolightly · 27/01/2018 10:10

Jupiter they give a shot of boiling hot water, then you put formula in, then it gives you more filtered water to make it the right temperature.

The ration of boiling water v to powder isn’t sufficient.

Try adding a splash of hot water to a tablespoon of hot chocolate and see if it dissolves it all.

ineedwine99 · 27/01/2018 10:11

No problem with ours, i put filtered water through it. Was a godsend and made the bottles perfectly, formula always dissolved just fine

Bojangles33 · 27/01/2018 10:12

They're completely safe is used and cleaned properly. I'm definitely getting one!

VivaLeBeaver · 27/01/2018 10:13

Jupiter is perfectly correct. As a midwife I’m advised to advise parents not to use Perfect Prep.

www.coch.nhs.uk/media/129463/tommee-tippee-prep-machine.pdf

TittyGolightly · 27/01/2018 10:20

No problem with ours, i put filtered water through it. Was a godsend and made the bottles perfectly, formula always dissolved just fine

It’s not about dissolving it.

It’s about KILLING HARMFUL BACTERIA which requires a certain ratio of boiling water to powder. Use less boiling water and the resulting temperature of the water and powder isn’t high enough to kill the HARMFUL BACTERIA.

fruityb · 27/01/2018 10:32

Well it didn’t do my wee man any harm, nor anyone else I know with one. Nor did making them the night before for my nephew who is now 22 and 6ft 4. The advice changes that much!

fruityb · 27/01/2018 10:33

And surely they wouldn’t be able to sell them making false claims??

Kannet · 27/01/2018 10:41

Well my district nurse had nothing good to say about them. She is very experienced and saw many upset and sickly babies. I didn't use one myself so can't speak from experience only pass on hers.

cherryontopp · 27/01/2018 10:46

Viva ive told my midwife i intend to use a prep machine for night feeds and she has no problem with it.
Very contradictive advice. No one has died using these machines. They would not be allowed to sell them if they weren't safe.

Use official filters and clean regularly.

cherryontopp · 27/01/2018 10:50

Titty no need for caps - i can read.

I know its about killing the bacteria which is why they give boiling hot water first to kill the bacteria once the powder is in, then it gives more filtered water. The filter in itself filters out bacteria.

OP you do what evers best for you. Tomme tippe would not be able to sell these machines if they werent safe. Too much scare mongering has been going on and its usually people not reading instructions properly

MrsMotherHen · 27/01/2018 10:55

I had one for both. Didn't like it as much with my second and she prefered them when not made with the machine. Save your self the money.

Fill kettle up all the way and boil once boiled pour into a sterlised jug leave to cool and place in fridge. When you make a bottle boil kettle (obviously) fill to 2 ounces with boiling water add 4 scoops of formula then top up to 4 ounces with your cooled boiled water. Its actually quicker than the prep machine and does the same thing.

TittyGolightly · 27/01/2018 11:18

I know its about killing the bacteria which is why they give boiling hot water first to kill the bacteria once the powder is in, then it gives more filtered water. The filter in itself filters out bacteria.

The filter is for the water, not the powder. I can see even very basic science is beyond you though. Next time you run a sink fill of water use cold water and let it get up to room temp. Then add a mug full of boiling water and see if it gets anywhere near 70oC.

OP you do what evers best for you. Tomme tippe would not be able to sell these machines if they werent safe. Too much scare mongering has been going on and its usually people not reading instructions properly

Part of it is down to cleaning tubes etc. Do you know how many soft ice cream machines fail environmental health inspections every year for the same reason? People do get very ill from things like listeria.

sammy891 · 27/01/2018 11:19

Thanks everyone, it definitely does seem like a dividing issue doesn't it! I don't want to cause my baby a sicky tummy for convenience so may hold off on it for now and see if we can't survive without it.

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TittyGolightly · 27/01/2018 11:19

When you make a bottle boil kettle (obviously) fill to 2 ounces with boiling water add 4 scoops of formula then top up to 4 ounces with your cooled boiled water.

4 scoops of powder needs 4oz of boiling water to be sterile. 2oz boiling water isn’t enough.