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Jesus why did I leave this so late - Ante natal classes....

22 replies

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 16:49

Im 36 weeks and was told early on that I should just stick with the NHS classes, they would be fine and there was no need to pay £160 for the NCT ones. Now I find myself absolutely bricking it as Ive done my piddly rubbish NHS ones, where the only mention of breathing was a m/w demonstrating one breath in and one out and that was IT (and then when I asked if we were going to go over it more she gave me a print out GRRR) and Ive called the NCT and they are totally booked up and I dont know what Im going to do.
Im giving birth at a m/w led birth centre where they dont have pain relief bar hot water and pethidine, and really dont feel at all prepared for this. God im starting to panic and I know thats not what I should be doing, but all the NCT classes on line are for bloody July & August!

Must calm down and breath...

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jenmac · 24/04/2007 16:53

Where are you based since the NCT one I am booked into will make sure you get into their classes despite the short notice.

I am in London and having trvale across town to west London for it. They do the course over 2 days for £200

lulumama · 24/04/2007 16:56

DON;T PANIC!! is this your first?

need to just have a think , about what is freaking you out, and then we can give you loads of great advice !

sheila kitzinger writes lots about labour and birth and does lots about breathing

there is also, TENS and gas and air, mobilisation, vocalisation, and massage to help cope with the pain aswell as the endorphins your body releases

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 16:57

Im west london!!, and have left a message for them but its just been an ansaphone all day. What date are you doing yours and where is it? Can I have the booking details?
Thanks jenmac xx

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lulumama · 24/04/2007 16:57

if you are in london, i know a couple of doulas who offer one to one or couples birth prep classes which will be more flexible!

KathyMCMLXXII · 24/04/2007 16:58

Have a look online for books and videos.
I didn't go to antenatal classes but had a couple of great videos and was fine.

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 17:02

Lulu thanks darling, soz for ranting like a madwoman but its just dawning on me that I should have thought about this and not relied on the NHS classes being of any use.
I phoned the NCT main number and the lady there pointed me towards another website, birthed.net and that isnt working properly except to show no classes for me!

Im worried that I dont know enough about my breathing, Ive done yoga in the past but im not convinced thats enough and worried it will go out the window. If Im going to try and do this without the drugs, I feel like I need to be with people learning and being coached, rather than reading books, which ive done loads of. It doesnt seem real just reading it, and I get distracted or dont give it enough attention etc.

yes its my first. god, i was feeling really calm til the blody NHS course. talk about sinking feeling...

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Mumpbump · 24/04/2007 17:04

To be honest, you can find out all the cold hard information on the net or by asking on here.

There is a lot of "touchy/feely" stuff - apologies to the NCT - about expectations, mum's role, dad's role, etc. They are also very keen on breastfeeding, but until you actually do it, you don't know what problems you're going to encounter so they only deal with it in a fairly general way.

Pain relief, you can definitely find information on the net although it sounds as though you have limited choice - don't they have gas and air? Hot water or pethidine sounds pretty limited to me? Pethidine is an opiate derivative so can make you feel woozy (allegedly - I refused it) and is communicated to the baby so it can make them dozy for a few days after birth. Water is good for pain, I found. Really, really surprised if they don't offer gas and air, thinking about it.

What else? They covered stuff like how to bath a baby, change a nappy - find someone who already has a baby and get them to show you or let you have a go.

Oh and BRIAN - benefits and risk assessment. Main message there was that your partner might have to help you make decisions and to remember to ask about Benefits, Risks, Implications, Alternative and - b*gger, can't remember what N stands for!!

Caesarean rates vary enormously from hospital to hospital. You do need to ask your m/w centre what happens in an emergency and to which hospital will you be transferred so you can get info on their c-section rates. The most amazing thing about that was the number of people you end up in theatre with - something like 14 in total!!

Then they talk about the three stages of labour - hopefully someone will correct me on this if I'm wrong. First stage is all about dilating; second stage is where you push the baby out and third stage is where you deliver the placenta. With the third stage, you can have an injection of syntocin or deliver naturally. In either case, there is a small risk the placenta will be retained in which case you need surgery.

Can't think of anything else at the moment, but I promise you it is out there to be found if you can't get onto a course. Remember to ask your m/w to help you with positions and breathing during the labour. Chances are you wouldn't remember it if you learnt about it beforehand - I didn't! Good luck...

Mumpbump · 24/04/2007 17:05

Seen the other posts now. You can get hypnotherapy cd's and stuff as well which I sure would help with staying relaxed and breathing...

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 17:05

Lulu could you mail me the info for the london based doulas? Am I allowed to out my email address on here.. or can you email me from the yellow envelope... pxx

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RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 17:08

Yep MB they do have gas & air, dont know how I managed to forget that!

Ok so maybe NCT isnt what Im looking for, I just wanted to take part with others in practicing breathing and birth positions, I suppose I was expecting much more than just sitting round in a circle and reading badly photocopied handouts.

Maybe a doula session is what Im looking for.. thanks for everyones kind words x

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jenmac · 24/04/2007 17:09

The URL is this but it does not advertise the dates I am booked in for since I assume they are booked up. I am 35 weeks and you properly want to get ont he same course as me, the details of the course are:
Me and My Baby Therapy Rooms
236d Fulham Road
SW10 9NB
Saturday 5th and Thursday 10th May (10am to 4pm)
Try contacting the teacher direct (Sarah Savaskan) on
[email protected] since she may let you on the course.

lulumama · 24/04/2007 17:09

will email you know ! xxx

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 17:12

thankyou both very much, blood pressure is stabilising ! pxx

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lulumama · 24/04/2007 17:12

now , i mean ! used the yellow envelope, if it doesn;t arrive soon-ish...then mail me and i will forward info

lulumama 21 @ hotmail. com

no gaps ! x

Mrsjaffabiffa · 24/04/2007 17:40

Redkennedy, it is great that you want to feel mentally organised, but please hold hope in the fact that your body knows what to do. I don't remember learning how to breath through the contractions, you just do! If it helps ease them.
I hope you get on a course if thats what you want but you will cope fine through Labour with out NCT classes if you can't get on one. Honest!

BirdyArms · 24/04/2007 17:41

I agree with the other people on here saying that you can get the info you need from the net/ books/ mumsnet and a lesson from a doula sounds like a great idea. I've had 2 ds's without any antenatal classes, not my original plan but ds1 showed up early the week before my nct class was booked. Didn't feel I really learnt the ropes during his birth as I had a c-section before labour was fully established. Whilst I was pregnant with DS2 I did a lot of reading and decided that classes weren't going to add much more. I also had a lovely mumsnet doula present at the birth who I'm sure lulumama is going to put you in touch with.

Hope everything goes well for you!

Lwatkins · 24/04/2007 17:50

RK - if it makes you feel any better I haven't done ANY courses, not even the NHS ones. When the time comes just listen to your body and do what YOU feel is right. Your body I'm sure will let you know what to do, don't panic.

I'm due in 4 weeks too and I'm a first time mum so haven't got a clue, but who really does? Even women who have had 6 babies will have had completely different birth experiences each time IYKWIM. But I'm sure when the time comes I'll be ok for these reasons. 1) Because my mum will be my birth partner and she's amazing! 2) The midwifes are there to help and 3) I know that no matter what this babies coming out at some point - thank god!!!

You'll be fine

RedKennedy · 24/04/2007 18:08

thanks everyone
just got in touch with the lovely mars
and shes coming to my house,
lulu you are an angel and I am eternally greatful (as is the dp who wasnt sure what to do with me panicking)

once again mn saves the day!

pxx

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ChasingSquirrels · 24/04/2007 18:28

I don't get the breathing thing, SERIOUSLY, when I had my 1st I had been breathing for 30 years, I wasn't going to STOP cos I was in labour was I?
Try and stop panicing (easier said than done, I was in complete denial about labour), tbh from talking to most of my friends the main thing they have got out of ante-natal classes (NHS or NCT) is the friendships - nothing to do with the mechanics of labour.

lulumama · 24/04/2007 19:31

glad to be of service ma'am

CorrieDale · 24/04/2007 19:36

The doula is a great idea but I would also thoroughly recommend the Birthing from Within book. It gives loads of techniques on coping with pain - from breathing to distraction to visualisation. I've did the NCT classes last time but learned so much more from Birthing from Within. And it may console you to hear that Sheila Kitzinger says that you already know how to breathe and will know how to breathe in labour - trust your body and your instincts.

incy · 24/04/2007 19:42

I did an NCT breathing and relaxation course which was different to the NCT antenatal course (just covers the breathing etc). So even if the antenatal courses are full they may offer add on courses such as these.

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