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Requesting an ELCS due to previous traumatic delivery

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User24689 · 20/09/2017 07:33

Hi all

I'm 33 wks pregnant and have found myself struggling a lot with anxiety which has been intensifying for probably the past 10 weeks or so. I was referred to the antenatal mental health team at the hospital because on 3 occasions (twice at antenatal clinic and once with GP) I have become really choked up and broken into tears when discussing birth of this baby and it has been occupying my thoughts almost constantly.

This is my second baby, my first birth was very difficult. I saw a clin psych at the hospital on Monday and she said I have what is called 'Secondary Tokophobia' (fear of childbirth brought on by previous traumatic birth) and that I'm showing several symptoms of PTSD.

She asked me whether I had thought about a section and I said that I have thought about it in the sense that having one would definitely lessen my anxiety a great deal although I am nervous about coping with my 2 year old plus the baby while recovering from surgery and we don't have any family to help me other than DH (live overseas)

She put down in her notes that I was willing to have a vaginal delivery but that a psychological care plan will be drawn up which will state that I should be offered early pain relief, basically on presentation at hospital, and that I absolutely don't want to be given a syntocinon drip (being denied pain relief and having the drip contributed to the difficulties I had last time)

My DH is really keen for me to request a section. To be honest, I think he has a lot of anxiety about the birth himself that he isn't really admitting too (so as not to make me worse!). He was very upset during and following DD's birth and I don't think he wants to witness another one though he of course says it is completely my decision.

I've given it a lot of thought and I'm now wondering if a section would be the right thing for me. I'm concerned that I won't cope with anything other than a smooth delivery this time, which I know can't be guaranteed. I'm worried I will panic when contractions start. Looking at the photos of the delivery room in the information leaflet the midwife gave me makes me feel nauseous.

I'm just not sure I feel emotionally strong enough to push for a section and as I'm giving birth in a public hospital I know I'm going to have to really argue my case. I have a lot of shame and humiliation left over from my first birth because it was a thoroughly humiliating experience and I lost all control. I also received comments from a horrible midwife afterwards that have really stayed with me - she told me the staff in the delivery room had been "left traumatised by my screaming". I had been asked a couple of times to stop screaming and became even more distressed because I couldn't actually stop the sound coming out of my mouth with each contraction, as if it was a kind of reflex. I think that I feel weak asking for a section and like I've failed again, before I've even started.

Can anyone offer any advice based upon their own experiences? Does anyone have any knowledge of whether this would be a justifiable reason for a section or whether it would be something I'd have to really argue for? I'm actually in Australia giving birth in a public hospital but I imagine that the system is similar to an NHS hospital. Should maybe add that this was an unplanned second pregnancy and we will be looking into permanent contraception (vasectomy or tubes tied, still unsure which) after the birth.

Sorry for the length! Many thanks in advance.

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TheEdgeOfGlory266 · 03/10/2017 08:16

I had quite a traumatic birth with my first and that actually ended in a EMCS. I was sent to a traumatic birth counsellor when my son was a few weeks old. It didn't stop the anxiety when I tell pregnant again so I can totally relate. My consultant was keen for me to have a VBAC but I've told her not a chance. I don't want to risk the same issues arising. She really listened to me and agreed that ELCS is the route we will go.
My son will have just turned 3 by the time baby comes, so I will be in a similar boat to you but I've heard ELCS are a lot easier to recover from and even my emergency, by the time my husband had gone back to work I was coping well enough. I know it's easier said than done but try not to stress. Good luck!!

Oldschool41 · 03/10/2017 08:18

I am having an elective c section due to being single mum, 41 and big age gap from my last child (21years). They did try and convince me to have Vbac but I stuck to my wishes and should get a date for c section at my 32 week appointment. Just stick to your wishes and keep echoing the same line every time, they give up in the end 😜

snackarella · 03/10/2017 08:20

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In a similar situation to you and have opted for an elcs- I cannot bear the thought of going through labour , resulting in an emcs which was just awful and my baby came out not breathing and had to be resuscitated and as a result was in special care afterwards.

I know as it gets closer I'll get so anxious so it's just best all round. I know it's surgery and it will be a tough recovery with a two year old but I'll honestly think it will be better than worrying x

HandbagKrabby · 03/10/2017 08:31

I had elcs after contracting ptsd after my first birth. I'm very glad I did as my baby would never have come naturally anyway :) If it's like the NHS you'll be repeatedly reminded that you can change your mind - I was asked if I wanted to go through with it as I was being wheeled to theatre! I don't think they do that with other planned procedures.

My second section had its own traumas and I'm still recovering from pregnancy nearly a year later but I did not get any additional ptsd from my elcs or its recovery. Best of luck :)

BillBrysonsBeard · 03/10/2017 10:54

I would have the section in your case. I had two sections due to fear of birth and they are the best thing I've ever chosen to do. I had a toddler while I was recovering from my second section and it was fine, DP was there to help and I was feeling myself in a couple of weeks. Didn't need anyone else! It was so good to not have the anxiety of childbirth. I think a section would be best for your mental health and healing emotionally from your first birth. I had no issues requesting my sections.

Kittymum03 · 23/10/2017 03:08

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User24689 · 23/10/2017 03:22

Thanks Kittymum that is really kind! Section is booked for a week today when I will be 39+1. Currently sat waiting for pre-op blood tests!

I am feeling much better about everything and all hospital staff have been so supportive. Just quite anxious about going into labour early as they have said that while they will do their best to get me into theatre if I turn up in labour, it will depend upon availability of theatre, staff etc which of course makes sense.

Baby has definitely dropped this week, heartburn has gone and weeing every half hour. Fingers crossed he stays put for 7 more days!!

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User24689 · 23/10/2017 14:00

Yep I did hypnobirthing last time and there were some visualisations that helped me before the contractions became too much. So I will use the same again. I have also been promised pain relief on arrival if I am unable to have the section for whatever reason (if I go into labour early)

I am avoiding all the old wives tales! Smile

Thank you. I'll update next week!

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User24689 · 02/11/2017 21:06

Hi all

Just thought I'd update with a happy ending for those interested/ those it may help in future!

Currently awake feeding a sleepy newborn following my elcs on Monday 😊

It went brilliantly. I was anxious, honestly, but the medical team really couldn't have been more supportive. The anesthetist spoke to me about my previous birth before I went into surgery and was lovely and sympathetic and said the completely agreed with my reasons for having the section and thanked me for letting her be part of my beautiful birth. She put some music on for us and spoke to me throughout. I remember every bit of DS being coming out and being placed on my chest - which are the memories I don't have of DD. It was really perfect.

I am sore now, 4 days later, probably more sore than I was with DD. It is harder to do things such as get in and out of bed and it's harder with DD being so little still and wanting to be picked up..... But it's all worth it! Me and DH have been saying all week how lovely it is and how the new baby feels like a positive experience rather than like a trauma.

Also had my tubes tied during the procedure so never have to go through the anxiety of pregnancy and birth again... And our family is complete!

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