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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Breech baby

22 replies

usernamessuck123 · 29/08/2017 12:50

I am 36+5, and we have found out today that our baby is breech - i know there is still a possibility she may turn... but...

Has anyone has experience of this? We have been offered 3 options;
Breech Vaginal Birth
ECV (turning the baby) - tomorrow
C-Section

We need to make our minds up ASAP but I am so stuck - does anyone have any experiences (good or bad please)

thank you

OP posts:
Eledamorena · 29/08/2017 19:18

My baby was transverse at 36 weeks (sideways - even more problematic than breech in that vaginal delivery is simply not an option) and I was booked in for an ECV but it had turned itself round! I was v happy but I am still wondering if it might turn round again (I have high levels of fluid which makes odd positions more likely apparently!)

Anyway - the consultant who met me re the ECV was v understanding that not everyone wants this, he said to book in for it and if I decided on the day that I didn't want it, no problem at all, we would use the appointment to talk through a section instead. I asked if he would advise his wife/sister to have the ECV and he said yes, but he was very understanding that I might not want it.

I did some reading online and the consensus seems to be that ECVs used to be a 'thing' but were then very much out of favour for a long time, so although they are now routinely offered a lot of people are still a bit funny about them. I believe the chance of distressing the baby or disrupting the placenta (either of which would lead to an emergency section) is less than 1%. Chance of baby turning back round is about 5% I think. Having said that, I did feel funny about having one and planned to ask for gas and air!!! Lots of women say it is uncomfortable but a small number experience real pain so I figured why not take what I could?!

Success rates vary WILDLY so I read that you should ask the consultant for YOUR chances of success - s/he should take into account your age, weight, race (random, I know!), past history, position of baby etc plus his or her own success record to give you a clearer idea of the likelihood that an ECV will work for you. If I asked about this and felt fobbed off at all it would put me off having the procedure to be honest.

Vaginal breech delivery - I think this is routinely offered if you have no other issues and if you have delivered vaginally before. I don't think they tend to promote it if you haven't delivered vaginally before.

Sorry not to be able to tell you about an actual ECV experience, I was lucky I didn't have to decide in the end, but I was planning to attempt it in order to avoid a section (vaginal delivery not an option for me unless baby turned). Remember you can tell them to stop at any point.

Whatever you decide, just go for it - you could have an ECV or aim for vaginal delivery and still end up with a section so keep an open mind. Also try to keep your stress levels low.... if you feel uncomfortable with an ECV then don't feel pressured into it. However much you think about these things or plan for them, you can't be sure how or when your baby will make its appearance and in the end, the method won't matter as long as you are both well!!

Best of luck x

MollyHuaCha · 29/08/2017 19:46

Are you 100% sure they are breech? I was told all three of mine were, just by the midwives feeling with their hands. But none were! All were back to back though...

MollyHuaCha · 29/08/2017 19:48
  • Not they! I meant the baby...
Notreallyarsed · 29/08/2017 19:51

DD was undiagnosed breech and I had her vaginally, mostly because her feet, legs and hips were already out by the time I walked into the hospital.
Both of us were safe and well, although the hospital did say that had they known they would have strongly recommended a section as a breech vaginal birth is riskier.

sureitsgrand · 29/08/2017 20:02

My DS was breech. I was booked in for an ELCS. The consultant informed me he would be unlikely to turn. I was happy enough to do whatever was recommended. ELCS was very calm, although I was nervous. Recovery was fine though I did have good help. Plenty pain meds. Breast fed no problem. Hope that's of some help!

Redsquirrellaughing · 29/08/2017 22:04

This happened to me at 39+3. Late growth scan showed DD was breech. Same three choices: ELCS, ECV or vaginal birth.

I went for the ECV, despite a bit of nervousness (had googled worried myself about risks of chord being wrapped around her neck, triggering distress etc). While the ECV was unsuccessful, unsurprising perhaps as so late, I had a good experience and would do the same again.

Had an injection of muscle relaxant, and then Consultant and Registrar worked together to push/pull on my tummy, checking DD heart rate regularly with portable ultrasound. Procedure was done

Cherrytart6 · 29/08/2017 22:08

They attempted to turn my baby. It was so painful for me and it failed. My MW was outraged that the consultant had gone ahead with it as babe was tightly packed.

Try getting it turned more naturally

Cherrytart6 · 29/08/2017 22:14

How successful is turning the baby generally? The consultant might as well of kicked me in the stomach during the attempted turn. Blooming awful. I went on to have an amazing c section, followed by three more children delivered naturally

Cherrytart6 · 29/08/2017 22:17

I also tried moxibustion and positioning.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.todaysparent.com/pregnancy/7-ways-to-turn-a-breech-baby/amp/

cowbag1 · 29/08/2017 22:18

Ds2 was picked up as breech really late at 41+1. I was offered the same 3 choices and went for ELCS without a second thought.

It's just my personal opinion but I would never choose an ECV because you don't know why the baby hasn't turned (could be tangled in their cord for example). Plus, it's meant to be painful. And there just seemed to be too many risks with a natural delivery. I felt like a cs was the most likely outcome regardless of which option I picked so it made most sense to have this electively (with all the benefits of ELCS over EMCS).

My ELCS was the most wonderful experience and my time afterwards with recovery, bfing etc. was all much easier than after my vaginal birth with ds1.

loubee11 · 29/08/2017 22:19

My baby was breech & the only option offered was to try ecv and/or elcs. I tried the ecv at 37wks (which was painful) but it wasnt successful so i was booked in for elcs at 39 wks. Then my waters broke 2 days after the ecv & had c sec at 37+2 instead. With hindsight, i personally wouldnt have gone through the ecv now, i'll always wonder whether it contributed to my waters breaking early. Some are successful but mine wasnt

tuppencenonethericher · 29/08/2017 22:22

I had a successful ECV about 38/39 weeks (first baby). It wasn't comfortable but only took about 2 minutes or so and they stopped for 30 seconds when I needed a break (the gas and air made me go a bit funny/dizzy actually).
That said, I had birth complications (completely unrelated) and if I could go back in time, I'd have had the ELCS instead.

BalancingStick · 29/08/2017 22:24

My second baby was breech. I'm assuming your baby is bum down (rather than feet) as you've been given the choice of a vaginal birth.

I had three attempts at an ECV - none of them worked. It was uncomfortable - maybe even a bit painful (but nothing compared to the pain of actually giving birth! My first DC was born naturally)

I also tried everything going in an attempt to get her to turn naturally (acupuncture, herbs, swimming, chiropractic, yoga inversions, reflexology, bag of frozen peas on my tummy by the head...) - nothing worked.

I attempted a vaginal breech birth - and it was very nearly successful, she was down in the birth canal when her heart rate dropped and they took me into surgery for the c-section, and pushed her back up again. I do not regret trying at all - I really wanted another natural birth. But my c-section recovery was much harder than my natural birth.

But I had one of the top breech midwives in the UK at my birth - I was lucky that she happened to work in the hospital I was giving birth at. She was on call for me 24/7 and was ready and waiting for me when I arrived at the hospital already 10cm dilated. My DD was in a hurry (1st very mild contraction to 10cm in less than 2 hours). If I didn't have her expertise or support I may have elected for the C section in advance. I 100% trusted her and knew that she would keep me and my baby safe.

DumbledoresArmy · 29/08/2017 22:29

My first born was breech. Undiagnosed breech & only found out when I was fully diagnosed so we had a vaginal birth.

We were all fine. It was a bit full on at times as lots of staff came to watch due to it being unusual but I had plenty of care.
I recovered really well too.

moonbells · 29/08/2017 22:37

If you can please try and find out what kind of breech your baby is. Some breeches have the legs extended out so that the feet are near the baby's nose. These babies are very hard to turn using an ECV. If the legs are still curled up around the bum area then it's possible to turn. if you got a footling breech where one foot's down and one's up you can do it but it's a bit more difficult again. if you have one of the extended breech then don't even try the ECV; there's a very good chance it will dislocate a hip. DS was extended breech: they gave me the option of trying an ECV or a Caesarean. They didn't even give me the option of trying to give birth naturally as I was an older first time mother. I went unhesitatingly for the elective Caesarean and I'd do the same again. It was the quickest decision I've ever made in my life.

tuppencenonethericher · 29/08/2017 23:17

Interesting about the legs extended being more difficult. I didn't know this and mine was legs extended breech (I posted above about my successful ECV).

newbian · 30/08/2017 03:57

DD was frank breech and I had ELCS. I did a lot of research on ECV and decided to refuse it. My attitude was if the baby wasn't moving naturally then I wasn't going to force her. Was told after the CS that the way she was positioned due to physical features of my uterus and the amount of fluid, ECV wouldn't have been successful anyway.

I have no regrets about the ELCS and I was very gung ho on a normal delivery. I BF DD for more than a year so it had no negative effect there.

Laineymc7 · 30/08/2017 04:34

I had a breech baby with my second and opted for a c section. I choose that as had a difficult birth with my first via vaginal delivery where she got stuck and in distress. This ended is forceps delivery. I didn't want them to turn my second baby due to their being some risks. I felt he was that was for a reason. I knew he'd arrive safely with the c section so I choose that. A planned c section is very relaxed. The op does not hurt. You will be in some pain and discomfort afterwards and it difficult to move around but if you keep on top of your painkillers you won't feel it. My planned c section was much better that my vaginal delivery with epistomy and third degree tear. Good luck with your decision. X

forfucksakejanet · 30/08/2017 05:30

DS was found to be breech at my 36 w appointment, after being head down for 10 weeks

I couldn't have the turning done due to previous EMCS, so I used pregnancy yoga (downward puppy and polar bear) positions for 10 days before my scan to try and turn him naturally

It worked, he turned by 37+3 and I delivered him yesterday via vbac

Best of luck with whatever you decide Flowers

PacificDogwod · 30/08/2017 20:11

I think I would not agree to an ECV - too risky.

I like SpinningBabies' advice but have never had to use it to turn a breech presentation.

Best of luck.

MrsBendyBaker · 30/08/2017 20:48

I have experience of being a breach baby if that's any use! My Mum has told me about it.

She didn't have aC section and attempts to turn me around proved unsuccessful. She got asked by the doctor if she would mind whilst some medical students sat in on their consultation as they needed to see a breach baby. Mum said his was fine. She then got the giggles when they kept trying to turn me around and it fast became apparent to her that I had NO interest in staying the correct way up. She found it funny that she could see this, and the doctor, allegedly a much more intelligent person than her, apparently couldn't, and kept trying to turn me round. So she began to laugh. And then he got cross and told her off for laughing....which made her laugh more, obviously!

As it transpires, I came out the conventional (non C section) route, and according to her she didn't have a particularly bad delivery. And I turned out fine - no health complications whatsoever. It is however a family joke that I was born feet first and my sense of direction has remained just as bad ever since....

Good luck with your breach baby, whichever route you go!

SoloSwan · 30/08/2017 20:50

I will not have an EVC due to the risk involved. I was also offered the same choices as yours due to my son being breech. I did go to the ECV but was about to refuse the last minute when the consultant said it wasn't recommended anyway as the cord was too close my son's neck.

I tried moxibustion for the week before going to the ECV. As it is I was extremely lucky that I was in the hospital as I mentioned to one of the midwife that i had been having reduced movement for a few days. There were movement but it was too slow. I was sent to triage, hooked up on the monitor and there was no movement for 2 hours. I was prepped for an emergency section and my son was delivered with the cord around his neck. I was 37+4.
Anyway what I want to say is that I believe there's a reason why babies are breech. And it's safer to have a section than to try and turn them.
I believe that the moxibustion made my son move too much and that's how he got tangled in the cord. I will not recommend moxibustion as well.
That's just my opinion though. Good luck whatever you decide to do.

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