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Boursin/roule type cheeses

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Jbck · 31/03/2007 11:25

I know soft cheeses are not safe in pg but wondered if these types of cream cheese were ok, they're pasteurised & I'm sure I ate them in pg last time (quite a few years ago so guidelines may be different). TIA

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jabuti · 31/03/2007 11:27

if pasteurized is ok. i have eaten even camembert, but pasteurized.

louilou · 31/03/2007 11:27

No I dont think you can eat them, I tink they are classed as soft cheese. I could be wrong but I didnt eat them during my pregnancys

MrsBadger · 31/03/2007 11:29

they're fine - the only cheeses to avoid are unpasteurised ones (because of brucella) and mould-ripened soft cheeses like Brie and Camembert (because of listeria).

Philadelphia, Boursin etc are ok.

Mrsjaffabiffa · 31/03/2007 11:31

I'm sure you can, you can certainly eat philadelphia and the like. I think it's mould rippened soft cheeses that the advice says to steer clear of.
Having said that I'm in France and there are no such restictions here. I am 33 weeks pregnant and have enjoyed my brie and goats cheese most days. I always make sure it's parsturised, bought from a supermarket rather than a farm or market and very well in date.

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Mrsjaffabiffa · 31/03/2007 11:45
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Jbck · 31/03/2007 11:54

DH bought some really lovely Canadian mature cheddar last week from Tesco, I sits down, big pile of oatcakes & sweet pickles, voice pipes up from the kitchen 'that's actually unpasteurised, I've just noticed' Off to Tesco to enjoy my barfy Boursin & some lovely pasteurised applewood smoked cheddar. MMMMmmmmmmmmmm

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MrsBadger · 31/03/2007 11:56

unpastuerised cheddar? freaky!

get something really lovely and don't let anyone else near it

Cyee · 31/03/2007 12:19

My GP pal says that there are two things to look for:
-pasteurised
-mould ripened
Some might be one and not the other, for example, Chevre goats cheese. I think the main mouldripened are brie, camembert, goats cheese...anything with that almost floury rind. Apparently (ie I have read) mould ripened cheeses are ok as long as they're piping hot, like deep fried brie etc.

France and Spain apparently have different rules because Listeria is endemic there and most people have immunity.

I think Boursin will be fine, as by memory it doesn't have a weird rind and is pasteurised. The web might have some useful links as well if you do a google search.

Personally I can't wait to gorge myself on goats cheese after this baby arrives!

Jbck · 31/03/2007 15:34

Guess you'll not be bfing then Cyee. I would kill some of my nearest & dearest for a peanut right now or some pate! Why is it all the tasty things.

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MrsBadger · 31/03/2007 15:41

what do you mean Jbk?
Goats' cheese is pefectly safe while bfing, ditto pate (admittedly there's no clear data on the peanut thing yet).

colditz · 31/03/2007 15:43

Philidelphia do a garlic and herb thing that tastes just like Boursin, and is probably pasteurised

Jbck · 31/03/2007 18:46

MrsB, m/w specifically said to me none of these foods while bfing. Is she wrong, DD wouldn't b/f when she was born so I was straight back on the pate & nuts when I came out of hospital. I'd hate to deprive myself uneccesarily.

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colditz · 31/03/2007 19:09

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motherinferior · 31/03/2007 19:11

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH

you can eat whatever you damn well like when breastfeeding. You can also drink alcohol. And you can eat boursin till it's coming out of your ears while pregnant.

motherinferior · 31/03/2007 19:12

The ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH was not directed at you, honest, just at whoever told you otherwise. Stuff yourself!

Mrsjaffabiffa · 31/03/2007 19:15

Just pretend you are French for tea time.

PregnantGrrrl · 31/03/2007 19:25

god i love boursin and roule...i may just eat french bread and cheese all day tomorrow!

colditz · 31/03/2007 19:26

Can a nursing mother eat unpasteurized soft cheeses?
Yes, nursing mothers can eat soft cheeses. Unpasteurized soft cheeses (and other unpasteurized dairy products) can carry a bacteria called listeria monocytogenes. Cheese made in the United States must be made from pasteurized milk (pasteurization kills the listeria organism), but imported cheeses may be a problem. Listeriosis is usually a minor flu-like illness in healthy adults, but can cause serious problems for pregnant women and may be linked to stillbirth and miscarriage (as it can be passed to baby via the placenta). Although eating unpasteurized dairy products is not recommended during pregnancy, it is not considered a problem for nursing moms.

Per Lawrence (Breastfeeding: A guide for the medical profession 1999, p 569), "No evidence in the literature suggests transmission of Listeria through breastmilk." This reference indicates that the only thing that might interfere with breastfeeding is a mother's inability to nurse due to severe illness.

Other foods that can carry listeria that are considered safe for nursing moms (but not during pregnancy):

cold hot dogs, luncheon meats, or deli meats
soft cheeses such as feta, Brie, Camembert, blue-veined cheeses; and Mexican-style cheeses such as "queso blanco fresco"
refrigerated pâté or meat spreads
refrigerated smoked seafood (not part of a cooked dish)
unpasteurized milk
Source: Listeriosis and Pregnancy: What is Your Risk?

The rules for pregnancy and the rules for breastfeeding are quite different

PregnantGrrrl · 31/03/2007 19:30

my mother brought me pate and gin after i gave birth...god it was sooooooooo good. and i bf.

Jbck · 31/03/2007 23:20

Tigerbread & boursin Pregnantgrrrl come join me.
One m/w told me she'd never seen colostrum the colour mine came out & maybe that's why DD wouldn't feed - way to eff your head up after birth eh!
Glad I asked now.

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SweetyDarling · 04/04/2007 09:02

Jabuti, pasturised camembert is actually more dangerous than unpasturised camembert!

marieg76 · 04/04/2007 09:29

you can have unpasturised cheddar as long as it has been aged. I visited Neals Yard Dairy in Borough Market to ask. They said that the acid in the cheese during the ageing process kills any bacteria and so makes it quite safe for pregnant women. Enjoy!

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