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Pink or Blue?

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FluffyEwok · 25/05/2017 20:17

Pink or Blue?

Pink or Blue?
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Kennethwasmyfriend · 26/05/2017 13:11

StereOtyping

Ginlinessisnexttogodliness · 26/05/2017 13:14

@Kennethwasmyfriend these sorts of threads are just a bit of fun. Stop looking for sinister and derogatory overtones, it's just a few women (normally) wondering what they're having.
It seems pedantic to only visit a thread like this just to have a bit of a dig about gender stereotyping. Lighten up.

I'm quite sure some of these ladies will dress a boy in a pink t shirt and let him play with dolls if he wants, or a girl in jeans and tractor t shirts. At least I do with my children.

NameChange30 · 26/05/2017 13:16

My son was PINK when he was born

Shock horror Grin

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 13:19

Notomatoes who has mentioned treating children differently because of their sex?no one.

Kenneth. Would I be considered sexist if I chose to get my baby daughter a pink blanket rather than a white one? I already have lots of neutral colours from my first baby who is a boy. Most people bought me neutral and blue things for him.. is this sexist? Should I refuse these gifts? What are your thoughts on gender reveal cakes dare I ask? Would it be ok if they used orange for boy and green for girl ?

Kennethwasmyfriend · 26/05/2017 13:36

Most of those are things , stuff you would use with a baby. The OP called the baby itself pink or blue. I don't like colours being a short cut for what sex we are, how limiting. Of course all of this seems trivial but there is nothing wrong with chipping away at stereotyping whenever we see it.
As for a gender (I assume you mean sex) reveal cake my opinion on those is the same as that of most people on mumsnet - yuk! But each to their own.

notomatoes · 26/05/2017 13:38

Labelling a girl "pink" and a boy "blue" is treating them differently. You are giving them a label based purely on their sex.

And don't be silly, it is not sexist to get a pink blanket for your girl if you want. It would be sexist to say a boy couldn't have a pink blanket because he was a boy.

notomatoes · 26/05/2017 13:39

Oops. I mean...

Yeah, Kenneth, be a good little girl and accept that girls are pink and boys are blue...

AppleOfMyPie · 26/05/2017 13:42

If OP had have titled her thread "do you think my unborn baby will be good at sports or not" then that would have been sexist.

Pink or blue is not. It might be a gender stereotype but it's not a negative one. Some people buy into the pink for girls, blue for boys, some don't, but you can't go around berating them because they don't agree with you.

I believe the reverse gender stereotyping is worse. There are thousands of posters who trot out the same old chestnuts about their 6 year old daughter being up a tree with a chainsaw whilst their 4 year old son is walking round Sainsbury's in full drag pushing a toy buggy. It's ridiculous because People are being made to feel they've failed as a parent if their daughter likes pink and wants to be a princess.

Why should it matter? Let kids be kids and like what they want, and don't make twatty remarks about people you don't know whose only 'crime' is being excited about having a baby that they can dress in the colours they want.

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 13:44

I have listened to your views without calling you silly.

I said sex earlier when talking about sex of baby as this is what I feel is the correct terminology

Gender reveal parties are refered to as that and I would personally use sex reveal parties but that does sound like a whole different type of party! Haha

I am personally not a fan of sex reveal parties either but happy to celebrate them

FunnysInLaJardin · 26/05/2017 13:44

Dunno about sexist, but it is certainly a bit naff. When I was pregnant I always hated all that team pink/team blue nonsense.

AppleOfMyPie · 26/05/2017 13:50

Funnys I agree. I'm due to have a boy next week and have bought a mixture of things, some blue, mostly red (my fave colour) but I'm not that priggish to go around attacking people that like the team pink/blue stuff. It's their choice, and not my place to try and spoil it for them.

AppleOfMyPie · 26/05/2017 13:53

Gender/sex reveal parties. What does it matter what you call them?

You can have a gender scan from 16 weeks. No company calls them a sex scan.

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 13:56

I agree with ginliness and apple

notomatoes · 26/05/2017 13:56

If OP had have titled her thread "do you think my unborn baby will be good at sports or not" then that would have been sexist.

Why? You can probably tell as much about the baby's sporting aptitude at this stage as you can their sex.

AppleOfMyPie · 26/05/2017 15:16

Because it's a documented negative gender stereotype that boys are better at sports than girls, so eg good at sports = boy, bad at sport = girl.

DebsOctBaby · 26/05/2017 15:32

I'm finding it more and more difficult to enjoy coming on mumsnet these days. People are literally looking to pick fights. It is a harmless post in which someone is interested in knowing if we think their baby is boy or girl.

I've always thought that mumsnet was a place to seek advice, help others, learn some information and give / receive support. Sometimes just to have a moan. Every post seems to have someone being judgmental or picking holes in things.

This post was obviously never meant offensively or in a sexist manner, it was a light hearted post. Yes people may have opinions but every post like this is being picked on, someone got berated for asking what the gender was, what is wrong with that? The baby will be given a sex at birth which then can go on their birth certificate so what's wrong with using the word gender?

Mumsnet is being a place for women to be jumped on and shouted down for (what I belueve) is an innocent use of a term or phrase. The forums will become quite and redundant if it carries on. Sometimes a little patience and understanding that with pregnancy hormones etc we may say things not quite right or he time comes across wrong. It can't become a place for trolls as people who need real support and have nowhere else to turn will become lonely and desperate.

I do believe there are administrators for any posts or comments that are deemed appropriate, I think people should let them do their job and report anything they see as inappropriate.

If the post topic clearly is not one you feel you can support or are offended by, don't read it, move on. If it's serious then report it.

Sorry, rant over!

DebsOctBaby · 26/05/2017 15:34

And sorry for mistakes, phone corrective is a nightmare on a Samsung but hopefully you get the meaning!

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 16:51

Just wanted to say. ..

Had my sexual intercourse scan today and it's..

TEAM BLUE! !!!!

Bring it on kenneth!

Kennethwasmyfriend · 26/05/2017 19:39

Congratulations. You do know the sex of a baby and sexual intercourse aren't the same thing?
Now a sexual intercourse reveal party would be quite a thing (pass the pombears)

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 20:11

Haha yes Kenneth.. the joke was a reference to the sex reveal party comment from earlier Grin

No sexual intercourse happened at my scan today. Shame really.. I was quite disappointed

Kennethwasmyfriend · 26/05/2017 20:53

Well it would be a whole other thread if the sonkgrapher has suggested that!!
Glad all was well Smile

FlapAttack88 · 26/05/2017 21:38

Thank you :)

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