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Perfect Prep Machine

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Chocoholicmonster · 14/09/2016 12:40

Sorry if I've posted this in the wrong thread - wasn't sure where else to put it.

I've brought a Tommee Tippee Prefect Prep Machine. Thought it would be ideal for night feeds if nothing else. Mentioned it to my midwife & she said she cannot recommend them as tests have been done to show that it makes unsafe bottles as it doesn't heat the water up hot enough. I've read some of the information given to me & it seems very hit & miss & I'm now probably more confused then ever if I should use it or not. Its brand new & not been opened yet so I could hopefully return it.

Surely if they were that unsafe all the big name shops wouldn't be selling them? Id just like to get other peoples opinions on these - wether you decided to use one or not. Thank you.

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Blackfellpony · 14/09/2016 15:56

I love mine! I can't even imagine night feeds without it

seven201 · 14/09/2016 16:25

Love mine too.

sj257 · 14/09/2016 20:13

I have to do a regular infant feeding course for my job. They aren't recommended x

AbbeyRoadCrossing · 14/09/2016 20:51

I'm guessing that the meningitis claim is that it's possible for babies to catch things from incorrectly prepared formula. But that could happen using other methods too in theory.

If you are worried check the temperature of the hot shot of water. It comes out of my machine steaming so I'm assuming it's hot!

SpeakNoWords · 14/09/2016 21:02

sj257 do they say why, on your training course?

StubbleTurnips · 14/09/2016 21:02

This link discusses the perfect prep machine, and other preparation methods:

www.firststepsnutrition.org/pdfs/Infant_Milks_June_2015.pdf

I was going to get a PP, I won't be now. Last time I used kettle / bottle of cool water as an other poster mentioned.

StubbleTurnips · 14/09/2016 21:05

This section is from the Food Standards agency within that report:

^The issues we have with it are, although it states it dispenses a ‘hot shot’ at 70C to kill bacteria that potentially could be in the powder, the reality (if you watch the TT advert) is that this amount of hot water used is very small, and once this is dispensed into a cold bottle/cold powder the heat will be quickly lost (more so than when preparing a full bottle with cooled, boiled water to >70C), so we would be interested to see whether TT have done any validation to see what temperatures the hot shot/powder combo actually reaches (and whether this is enough to destroy any bacteria).The other issue, is that the rest of the bottle is then topped up with cold water, which TT state is filtered to remove impurities. Again we would be interested to know whether it has been validated that the TT filter removes potential bacteria in the tap water (as this won’t previously have been boiled).
At present the Food Standards Agency would still advocate the use of our Best Practice Guidance, to use cooled, boiled water at >70C to make up infant formula.”
(Email communication between Francesca Entwhistle (UNICEF) and Lorna Rowswell at FSA. February 2014)^

TheMrs04 · 14/09/2016 21:05

I was bought a prep machine by my father who researches everything to an inch of its life!! He was very happy with the reviews! I initially breastfed but when my little boy got poorly I stopped producing down to stress! It's been 5 months since I started using it and I have to say it's been a god send! Even my little brother(15)knows how to use it and as I type this is making my lbs bedtime bottle! I have recommended to many of my friends that have had or about to have babies!!

sj257 · 14/09/2016 21:41

Yes it's because of the hotshot not being deemed adequate enough to eliminate bacteria.

There are also things I learned about making formula up that I didn't know when I formula fed my 8 and 9 year old. For instance you must fill the kettle up with at least a litre, and leave to cool for no longer than 30 minutes (water has to be at least 70 degrees). Also never use water that's been boiled before. It does seem an awful faff so i can see why the perfect prep would be appealing but I don't want to risk it.

I'm hoping breastfeeding will work out this time. If not I'm seriously considering using pre made formula!

Hufflepuffin · 14/09/2016 21:50

I would buy one of those kettles that has a button for 70 degree water and then use that top up with cooled boiled water to get it to drinking temp.

sj257 · 14/09/2016 21:53

I'm not sure how that would work though as all water is meant to go into the bottle first. You wouldn't get the right powder to water ratio if you added more water after the powder.

SpeakNoWords · 14/09/2016 21:57

sj257 you measure out the hot and cold separately and then pour into the bottle.

sj257 · 14/09/2016 22:00

But then the water wouldn't be hot enough to kill the bacteria? Oh do you mean measure enough for 7 ounces, 5 Oz hot with powder added then 2 Oz cool?

SpeakNoWords · 14/09/2016 22:03

"do you mean measure enough for 7 ounces, 5 Oz hot with powder added then 2 Oz cool?" yes

sj257 · 14/09/2016 22:04

Ahh OK, that could work!

Andbabymakesthree · 14/09/2016 22:05

Stubble that's a really informative read. Thank you!

becciandbump · 14/09/2016 22:07

Oh no ive bought one and now I'm not sure I'll ask my midwife I think when I go

ineedwine99 · 14/09/2016 22:08

Love mine! Been a godsend for nightfeeds, so far she's had no problems, the hotshot is bloody hot so i trust it's killing any bacteria

fabulous01 · 14/09/2016 22:12

I used to boil water and use it up to 12 hours later. Health visitor said no but nurse in children's hospital was one who told me about it. That worked well for me but people who have prep machine love it.
Each to their own but health victors aren't always right

April241 · 15/09/2016 03:02

I'm expecting twins in a matter of weeks and we've got a PP, recommended by several people in work and I looked into it before getting one. Also spoke with my midwife at my 22week appt when we were discussing feeding and she didn't have any concerns with it.

crayfish · 15/09/2016 09:31

When we used to go out I would take a flask of hot water. It stayed above 70% for at least a couple of hours. I would also take the little lidded bottles of cold boiled water (I used medela bottles, the ones you get for expressed milk) with the correct amount measured. So i would have 5oz cold boiled water in the little bottle for instance if i was going to make a 8oz feed and then I would just need 3oz hot, add the powder, and then add the 5oz of cold.

wm3010 · 15/09/2016 13:49

The thing that worries me is why Tommee Tippee have not released their own research, surely if their tests have shown that it is safe then they would just let people see the research?

Andbabymakesthree · 15/09/2016 22:13

Exactly WM3010.

April241 I don't expect your midwife has read that report. I fail to see how anyone could recommend it after reading it!

Princesspinkgirl · 18/09/2016 00:00

I've bought one to use in December I don't think waiting 30 mins for the kettle to cool is great at 2am feed I've heard good things about them

becciandbump · 18/09/2016 19:29

Mothercare have just told me there has been not one advisory report about it in 3 years and they are always having products recalled. She advised if I was concerned just put boiled cooled water in the water tank at the beginning of the day and then the boiled water will be ontop filtered and then the hot shot goes in. A new couple of parents overheard my conversation and stopped me to say it was the most valuable piece of baby equipment they had. If you're worried then go the traditional way but I think I'll still be using mine.

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