Girls weekend away tomorrow dying for a glass of wine

[sophieeleanorxx]

I'm going to see my friends in Leeds tomorrow I'm so excited haven't seen them since I upped and left my abusive relationship in march. They have stuck by me the minute I found out I was pregnant at work(getting emotional now) and still continue to support me and text me everyday without a fail even though I'm a 100 miles away. Anyway now I'm over that speech I'm 15 weeks nearly 16 weeks pregnant and dying for a glass or just a drip of wine or something. Honestly is it ok for me to have a glass with a meal tomorrow night. Has anyone else done it? Because I've wrote on net mums and had to delete my post because of the abuse I got.

Go for it. One glass will do no harm whatsoever. I did with my pregnancies, and had no problems. As long as it's a one off, here and there, I can't see any issue.

Go for it. One glass will do no harm whatsoever. I did with my pregnancies, and had no problems. As long as it's a one off, here and there, I can't see any issue.

I just turnt 21 when I fell pregnant with my son and really missed drinking and me and my partner when on holiday and I had 1 (a WKD) lol

Im 26 now and pregnant with my 3rd and I don't drink at all I have only had the odd night out since my first son was born.

I think you will be fine to have one glass if that's what you want to do xx

I had the odd glass of wine when pregnant. In your position I definitely would

Oh going, what a sanctimonious joy you are.

OP Have a glass. Enjoy every mouthful.

I have no power to make the OP do anything so no, not any of those things you've said. She asked for opinions. I gave mine. If you don't want different, don't ask. And my comment was someone else about having to have a drink to feel joined in.

I had probably 5 or 6 alcoholic drinks throughout my pregnancy; I got married at 13 weeks pregnant and I was definitely having a glass of champagne to celebrate.

Have a glass of wine and enjoy it

going

So if the OP asked for opinions, why comment on what someone else posted without making it clear who your comment was aimed at?

I suspect goings post was aimed at me since I said having a drink made me feel part of the celebration.
Not that I owe anyone an explanation but I can count on 1 hand the amount of times I've had a drink in the past 2 years and at the wedding in question it was about the only thing I did have since the menu was full of no go foods.

Op have a great time and savour that glass of wine while you can, I hear rumour of social lives going out the window once you have a baby

I had the occasional glass of wine or small beer in my first pregnancy and my daughter is fine. Doing the same with my second pregnancy.

I'm reading 'Expecting Better' by Emily Oster and it's very interesting. She's done her research on the effects of alcohol in pregnancy and her advice is "up to one drink a day in the 2nd and third trimester, up to one drink a week in the first trimester and speed is key: drink slowly so your body can metabolise the alcohol"

Whether you agree with that or not is up to you. I'm avoiding all in the first trimester but will have a drink once I'm past 12 weeks.

In your case, I say drink it, savour it and enjoy it.

I've had a few glasses/prosceco when iwas pregnant, but like some have said, it had been only a quarter of a glass.

My daughter is now 7.5 months and perfectly fine and very smart, in fact her sevelopment is advanced.

Enjoy your glass of wine🍷

I'm not drinking while pregnant because all the medical experts say that it's just best not to drink at all. They say although there's no evidence that 1 small drink a week harms your baby in the 2nd and 3rd trimester, this is not proof that it doesn't do harm and I'd rather be safe than sorry. I looked into it and the reason for me is this (from the Nhs website) When you drink, alcohol passes from your blood through the placenta and to your baby. A baby's liver is one of the last organs to develop and doesn't mature until the latter stages of pregnancy. Your baby cannot process alcohol as well as you can, and too much exposure to alcohol can seriously affect their development. For me I just don't want to do anything that could cause harm to my baby, and although I like a drink when not pregnant I've decided to abstain til after breastfeeding.

On a side note (I'm quite aware that the op is thinking about only having 1 drink) I'm quite surprised about author Emily Oster's 'advice' that it's safe to drink 1 drink each day. Considering the fetus doesn't have working kidneys, and reviewing issues for the unborn baby that could culminate in foetal alcohol syndrome, 1 drink a day (let's say 1 glass of wine, c2 units) means you're up to the Nhs 14 unit advisory limit (for non pregnant women and men). To advise drinking it slowly to ensure the liver processes seems to be poor advice for 'real life' because not all alcohol is processed by the liver before entering the bloodstream (hence being able to test blood alcohol levels) so this means that this alcohol still has the ability to pass into the foetal blood stream, causing issues with cellular development. Looking into foetal alcohol syndrome advice it's states over and over again that it's not know what level of alcohol is unsafe, so it's best to abstain. Not all babies whose mums drank regularly/ heavily will get FAS, but I wouldn't want to gamble my baby's health and development on an unqualified view- looking into Oster's qualifications she states she has no medical or scientific training, rather she's an economist so I would absolutely be sceptical about her advice.

The foetus does have working kidneys - it's one of the things they check for on your anomaly scan.
Enjoy your wine OP.

Sorry, typo- I meant liver.

I had a glass of wine every week and everything was well.

Of course it's OK to have a glass or two of wine occasionally when you are pregnant.

I didn't find out I was pregnant for 10 weeks and was drinking my usual amounts of wine (2-3 glasses a night).

My MIL (a midwife ) regularly drank during her pregnancy, it is only fairly recently that people are being so sanctimonious about drinking - the advice is really aimed at stopping 'binge drinking' not middle class ladies having a glass or two a week.

Seriously, what do you think is going to happen if you have one glass of wine?

Ragwort I don't think it's sanctimonious to follow medical advice, and referring to it only being 'recent' advice you could also say that about smoking... I assumed I'd get a bit of a roasting for stating and following guidelines, after all [the medical profession takes all the fun out of pregnancy]. It's different if you unknowingly drink at first, but once you know I think it's best to follow advice. I wanted to put my view forward because the op has come into this post to ask for advice, as mumsnet is trusted, but the majority of posters have stated that a drink 'in their opinion' is perfectly safe, contradicting all medical advice regarding drinking and pregnancy. It's worrying because I assume most people aren't medical experts, and neither am I, so I follow what the experts tell us rather than just making my own opinion because I want a drink. Just because someone would really like to be told it's fine to have a drink it's sensible to also say actually it's not recommended. You asked what harm it could do, flip the question around...the ethanol from alcohol stays in the amniotic fluid for a while, even after 1 drink, bathing the foetus, what benefit does that give? The harm is that it can effect cellular development. On looking at the advice, I am not willing to expose my baby to alcohol. That's my opinion I wanted to share with the op, and without judgement, each to their own.

Again- I know the op is not suggesting she has a drink a day, but this thread got me looking into this- especially the Oster book- and I found this informative read from a Prof. of Epidemiology and Pediatrics who deals with the effects of alcohol in foetuses if anyone is interested. HTTPS:depts.washington.edu/fasdpn/pdfs/astley-Oster.pdf

This is the link: depts.washington.edu/fasdpn/pdfs/astley-oster.pdf

shabby it's the tone of your posts and the length that make them come across as sanctimonious.

A simple I wouldn't risk it would do instead of a pages of tosh telling the op and the rest of us who dare to drink 125ml out of probably a good few litres of fluid a day we're pickling our babies.

We're all adults, we've all assessed the risks and made our decisions you don't need to bang on about it.

Oh I'm sorry I didn't realise there was a limit in length for posts on here or that there was a tone that had to be achieved, it is a pregnancy thread about informed choices not an AIBU one. I'm also sorry I've put forward links to medical studies that perhaps people don't want to see, but having information lets the op make an informed choice, she came on here asking for opinions and I gave mine. Perhaps this is her first port of call? Perhaps not. What's the point in telling her I wouldn't do it without backing up the argument? That just sounds like I'm being a party pooper. One post responding to the op with reasons and another responding to ragwort who had responded to me is hardly banging on about it. I'm not accusing anyone of pickling babies, I've said twice I know the op wanted just one drink. I was responding to ragwort who asked what harm can a drink do. I am just putting the other side of the discussion across with my reasons in a thread about alcohol and pregnancy that others might read to become informed. As I've said, each to their own, people will have different views, some my friends drink during pregnancy and some don't, I wouldn't/don't say anything about this because they haven't asked for my view, however, the op did ask for opinions so I have given mine.

Emily Oster just reviewed the existing medical studies on drinking in pregnancy - she didn't make up conclusions of her own!

In fact the clinical data shows that the best outcomes were for mothers who drank lightly (ie they had better outcomes for baby than those who abstained). Oster didn't incorporate this into her recommendation as she points out that there are all sorts of confounding factors that might lead to that outcome (the most obv is that we know both that more intelligent women drink more generally, and that maternal iq is one of the biggest predictors of positive development so perhaps there is something in that).

Either way to answer the OPs question a glass on wine is definitely not going to do any harm - enjoy!