does movement have to be proper kicks?

[Frillsandspillsx2]

I'm 27 + 4 weeks and I know babies don't start to get any sort of routine til about 28 weeks but I've been taking a lot of notice of movement.

I don't often feel proper kicks or thumbs, it's more wriggles I think. Definite movement and I can see my belly move and things, and if I'm lying on my side I can feel part of my baby brush against my hand through my skin, so I know he's definitely moving.

I feel the odd 'thump' so to speak, I couldn't tell you how often though.
Is this just my babys choice of movement or should all babies be kicking?

It probably sounds really silly but it had been on my mind as everyone asks about kicking rather than movement and I've just realised what I feel isn't necessarily kicks?

Movement is movement. Hiccups don't count as movement though! Babies vary and you need to get used to what is normal for your baby.

When they say 'count the kicks' it's not necessarily the kicks you count it's any noticeable movement that you count so kicks wriggles thumps and tumbles all count as movement. When I went in with reduced movement and was talking about kicks the Dr pointed that out to me that the won't always kick it will be a mixture of movements. Through the day she kicks my bladder and I feel her poking around top of my tummy and ribs but minute I lay down in bed she wriggles and tumbles which I find funny as it tickles lol but all those movements count. I wouldn't worry if your baby doesn't kick all the time as long as he moves noticeably x

Also in regards to routine my little lady had same routine all the time from 25 weeks and suddenly this wee she has changed her whole routine and worried me sick be patient what your experiencing now could be your babies routine some babies are just random movers

Thank you for replying!
I feel a lot more relieved, I just had a sudden thought and panicked but it hadn't really occurred to me before.

I went to the hospital at 25 weeks with reduced movement, and at the time my dad was in hospital on a life support machine (thankfully all is fine now) but I panicked so much thinking the stress had caused harm. It hadn't though, and at the hospital a midwife seen the baby kick but I couldn't feel it at all! She said I probably have good muscle tone so I've been thinking maybe that's why I don't feel kicks? It's never really bothered me as I've felt wriggles often but I've seen a lot about counting kicks and just thought about it then. For all I know what I'm feeling could be light kicks I can never tell everything feels so wriggly and cushioned in there..

What position is your placenta in frills if it's anterior he could be kicking your placenta and you don't feel it

I have an anterior placenta mummy not sure exactly where about though, but I've just been thinking maybe he's kicking the placenta.
I worry about movement so much due to a family member having a still birth, everyone constantly asks me about movement so I worry about every little thing, hopefully I'll relax soon though I feel like pregnancy is such a big worry when you can't see what's going on in there!

In my first pregnancy my son kicked properly like karate chops. In my current pregnancy she rolls and turns, she doesn't kick like my son did. Her movement is completely different even though from the scans the placenta is in pretty much the same spot as last time.

I think the key with movement is it should be a consistent pattern - doesn't have to be kicks as long as baby is moving the way he/she normally does. Any change or reduction in movement should be investigated. So what's normal movement for one baby may not be normal for another IYSWIM? I hope I've explained OK.

When I was pregnant my son never got into a routine and hardly kicked at all he would just roll from one side to the other I was constantly in hospital worried about him but aslong as u get atleast ten movements a day I wouldn't panic I hardly ever felt ten and he came out perfectly healthy

I completely understand I've had 4 miscarriages and I'm sure my maternity assessment unit think I'm a paranoid pregnant maniac lol but I stick to trust your instincts only you know what's right for your baby. I've been saying all week that something is wrong with my baby as her movements reduced and suddenly changed and as I have GD I panicked but no-one took me seriously. Went to my GD appointment today and told consultant if all my concerns and my blood pressure is raised and baby is measuring two weeks ahead when she was only a week ahead two weeks ago. I knew something had changed and the Dr said to me even if it's a case of 'having a feeling something is wrong' call the midwife as us mummies know best. I'm now worried sick as at my 12 weeks scan they put my duedate back 3 weeks which but now she's starting to measure what she should I'm concerned that they loVe her inside too long for how long she should be in iyswim . Also maybe you could suggest to people to stop questioning you on movement (except drs and mws ) as your stressed enough and worried about movement. Explain that your are cautious of his movements and keeping track of them and don't need to constantly be asked and reminded of it. I know how hard it is as at the start of this pregnancy due to having a ruptured cyst the Dr kept asking had I had any bleeding which made it worse as I was already on edge looking out for it constantly x

Thank you I understand, this is probably what is Normal for my baby, can't complain if he's not kicking me in the bladder get surely?!

mummy I definitely agree with trusting your instincts. Your hospital don't sound too good with them not taking you seriously, I remember your thread at 23 weeks with the gush of discharge and they didn't seem very helpful then. Hopefully all is ok though - I'm sure it will be. Given you measuring 2 weeks ahead, they may even induce you? A friend of mine was always measuring two weeks ahead, her hospital wasn't interested though, no rest for GD or anything knowing she had a big baby,, she then gave birth to an 11lb baby! Via emcs, she was then told she should have been induced at 37 weeks! But thankfully all was healthy! I understand your worries due to your previous miscarriages though! I would pester the hospital, during my early pregnancy all the nurses at EPAU recognised me as soon as I walked through the door I was there that much! Babies are so precious I don't think you can ever be over cautious !

Completely agree they are precious. That my biggest fear leaving her too long too many thing can go wrong. Placenta can fail eventually causing still birth or her getting too much sugar and then struggling after birth. Just so concerned they've asked me to return next week due to blood pressure and if she's ahead again next week I'm going to request a more insight appointment regarding the birth as I'm limited with pain relief and trying to avoid a section under general anesthesia. Am sure u would rather have reassured than worry about what they thought of you as that's how I sort of see it.

Oh the kicks to the bladder I was so glad when she eventually turned head down two weeks ago as it wasn't uncomfortable anymore and now of course she's breech again and bladder is taking a beating lol.

Try drinking really freezing cold water like neck it and I'm sure you'll feel him squirm and wriggle inside you xx