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OMG freaking out big time !

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excitedmummy25 · 28/05/2015 21:27

So hubby and I are out at frankie and bennies for a romantic meal ..... We order and I specify no mayo! I get my chicken and pitta am happily chomping through and then realise there is mayo! I also now know that it is freshly made so I have consumed a little bit possibly a dinner spoons worth.... near tears here ! X

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Iammad · 29/05/2015 07:52

It does state on the nhs website about what not to eat, like fresh mayo.
Although very unlikely to do you or your baby any harm.
I do think some of you are being ott to suggest that op 'has issue's' problem is you read a list of food you are not supposed to eat from the nhs and then the op gets worried that she had eaten it!
And not everyone would know if a particularly chain of restaurant used fresh or not mayo ffs.

Singsongsung · 29/05/2015 08:50

Lam- you're right about mayo of course you are (it's because of the raw eggs for those wondering why) but a few mouthfuls will almost certainly not cause an issue- esp as the OP doesn't then go on to say "and I have been throwing up ever since".

I followed the rules to the letter as the OP clearly is but honestly I think her worry and stress will be worse for her and at least she has clarification now that it's all ok anyway.

CatOfTheWoods · 29/05/2015 09:19

Yes but you don't choose whether or not to be a worry wart. Some people are just anxious and if you are, pregnancy can make it a lot worse. Being told it's bad for your baby or that you have a problem probably isn't going to help. OP needs factual reassurance which she now has. But mayonnaise is on the list of foods to avoid if it's made with fresh raw eggs so it was an understandable worry.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 29/05/2015 09:48

The NHS tells you not to eat fresh mayo? But why? All eggs in the UK are vaccinated against salmonella, you can pour raw eggs straight into your mouth if you want to.

Thats really poor of the nhs to be giving you such bad advice.

batfish · 29/05/2015 09:49

I am sure you will be fine - if you do eat something containing raw eggs there is a teeny tiny chance of salmonella (I only know 1 person who has ever had it) and actually I have read that salmonella would be unlikely to cause harm to a baby, it would just make you feel really crap. And you would know fairly quickly after eating whether you have it or not. Don't worry!

Wishful80smontage · 29/05/2015 09:54

You'll be fine OP ignore comments on here about over reacting everyone is different- with my first pregnancy I remember being the same I'm more laid back this time- but still avoid the risky foods. Honestly a tiny amount once is nothing to worry about I'm sure.
Congrats btw :)

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 29/05/2015 10:02

Don't tell her to ignore comments about over-reacting, you're encouraging someone to stay anxious and upset when there is no need to be.
A tiny amount is nothing to worry about, a truckload is also nothing to worry about.
Facts and logic people, not rubbish and encouragement to be daft.

CatOfTheWoods · 29/05/2015 10:10

Of course there is no need to be over-anxious, of course there's it's not very good for you. The point is you can't always help it!

TitusAndromedon · 29/05/2015 10:12

I totally agree, Winter. Pregnant women are routinely treated as though we can't assess risks and make sensible decisions about our bodies and health.

OP, I really recommend you read 'Expecting Better'. It does a really good job of dispelling myths about risks associated with food, alcohol, caffeine, etc. I think it will help to calm some of your anxiety and reassure you that you can take a sensible approach to your pregnancy and you can trust yourself to make healthy decisions, just like you probably did every day before you got pregnant.

batfish · 29/05/2015 10:16

titus I have also read that and would agree that it means that you worry less about the 'banned' foods and other risks. I have eaten medium steak a couple of times when I know it is a good restaurant and if my hubby didn't totally freak out about me doing it I would have ordered raw tuna in a sushi place that I know to be of high quality. I think mr bat needs to read it too as he flips out every time I order shellfish or eat peanuts as is convinced I'm not allowed them and even told me off the other night for patting my stomach too hard as said I would hurt the baby!

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 29/05/2015 10:21

You can eat sushi too, no problem. Commercial sushi fish has been flash frozen to deal with any possible parasites. Peanuts and shellfish, also grand.

I think some people have bought a myth that being really really overly careful makes you somehow a better parent, because you are so willing to sacrifice for your baby. It really doesn't. Being anxious and stressed is far worse for the woman and the baby, and denying yourself a whole host of perfectly healthy foods is also not good for you.
Even worse is encouraging others to be as over the top as yourself, to try and make it feel more normalised for you. It's unfair and its unhelpful.
Be kinder to other woman, facts not rumours, healthy eating not extreme over-caution. Let's help each other out?

Cherryblossomsinspring · 29/05/2015 11:16

Oh for goodness sake. Not to trivialise any of the stresses of early pregnancy but really, eat and drink what you want other than (too much) vitamin A and alcohol. Maybe avoid furry soft cheese if you are a real worrier. Stay away from medicines and homeopathic shit for now too. Otherwise, if you are well enough, enjoy your new big appetite with gusto. Eat and be merry and don't buy into all the ridiculous rules for pregnant women. You are in far more danger coming down the stairs than eating a cold meat sambo.

Iammad · 29/05/2015 11:27

Maybe you should all write in to the Nhs and tell them they have there info wrong
Anyway telling The op she has issue's is not the way to go really is it?
I think most people would worry if they were told by a source that is supposed to be factual that they could (although tiny) do harm to there unborn Child By eating raw/undercooked eggs.
I remember doing the same 9 years ago! And trust me I didn't need help because of it!
Unless there is other things that the op has stated that is rearly making her anxious And is effecting her daily life.

Not having a worry over something that was actually on an official nhs website, that I can completely understand.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 29/05/2015 11:30

I might do that.

I don't think anyone is telling the OP she has issues, they are telling her to try and relax about it all, which can only be helpful to her. Isn't that the point here, to be helpful to those with questions?

Iammad · 29/05/2015 12:49

No there was a couple who was implying the op did have 'issues'

By the way I do completely agree that we do worry so much about what food we consume during pregnancy.
But with the likes of the nhs saying not to, I can understand how woman can get a tad worried.

sharonthewaspandthewineywall · 29/05/2015 13:28

I can understand people wanting to avoid certain foods that are known to cause harm. Totally. The ops reaction to accidentally eating a small amount of something that is not known to be harmful really does indicate deeper issues possible anxiety or other issues which can benefit from some professional help as pregnancy can be a hugely worrying 9 months. That's not me being bitchy but concerned.

Iammad · 29/05/2015 13:47

But on the NHS website they tell you not to eat raw egg/undercooked egg which is in home made mayo!
That is why the op was so worried!
So blame the Nhs for bashing this info rightly or wrongly.
The op has already said has no anxiety ffs!
Just was worried because obviously she was told not to eat it.

WinterOfOurDiscountTents15 · 29/05/2015 14:19

Yes, we've said that the NHS is wrong.
However the point being that mild concern because of bad advice is normal enough, crying and panicking and emailing for ingredients while still eating is a bit beyond normal concern.
And if you leave the outrage out of it, you'll see that people are being helpful to both OP and other people who might read it by pointing all this out.

geekymommy · 29/05/2015 14:36

The worry with homemade mayo is salmonella. In the US, I've heard that your chances of getting salmonella from a raw egg are around 1 in 20,000 for each raw egg you eat. I can't find numbers for the UK, but I'd guess it's similar if not lower. That number is from the early 90's or thereabout, and there have been improvements in salmonella prevention (in both the US and the UK) since then, so the chances are probably actually lower.

I would be shocked if a restaurant, other than a very fancy one, served homemade mayo and did not say so on the menu. Here in the US, they might have to have a warning label on the menu if they served anything made with raw eggs (and not subsequently cooked).

geekymommy · 29/05/2015 14:46

If the mayo is pasteurized, you're really, really unlikely to get salmonella from it.

There's a fair amount of hype around the danger of raw eggs, possibly out of proportion to the actual risk, and there's certainly hype around the danger of eating the wrong foods in pregnancy, so I'm not sure I'd say someone who is scared by this necessarily has a problem with anxiety. They might have a skewed sense of the actual risk, but that's very common. Humans aren't that good at evaluating risks. That's why you get things like people being more scared of flying than they are of driving, even though flying is unquestionably safer than driving.

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