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mmc?

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Bubblybubbles80 · 09/05/2015 20:18

i went for an early scan (5w3d) a couple of weeks ago due to spotting and my gestational sac was 8.7mm, which was early on so we didn't see much. 2 weeks later (7w3d) i went back and my sac was nearly 22mm but the fetal pole measured 2.8mm which i think is really small. as the nurse told me to come back in a week time. so i think this is my third mc in a row (within a year). i still have all my symptoms nausea and tiredness and am total gutted at my third loss. i have no children and am 35 in july

i decided already i will go with the surgical option as i don't fancy passing and want my hormones to get back to normal as quick as possible

any thoughts/advice

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sizethree · 09/05/2015 20:57

I'm so sorry to read your story. miscarriage is such a heartbreaking experience, and it's so unfair and hard to process when it keeps happening for no reason.
I too have suffered three losses within a year. (November 2013, July 2014 and November 2014).
Now that you've had three it means you'll be able to get further investigations into finding a possible cause for why this keeps occurring. Blood tests and if you consent they can test your baby to check for chromosomal abnormalities.
I had all these tests find and there's been no reason found for me, but my third loss did have a chromosomal abnormality. The others may have just been down to bad luck and after speaking to a fertility specialist, he said I have no worse a chance than anyone else trying for the first time. There is hope!
There's a brilliant thread on the miscarriage board with some incredible women who are going through similar experiences. There's a girl on it called Flen who writes a blog that is so worth a read.
There's also a thread on the trying to conceive board about the Response trial, which is currently running UK wide and is a drug to help women affected by unexplained recurrent pregnancy loss. Have a peek as it may be something you'd be interested in.
It's such a shitty time so pleae be gentle on yourself and rest and take time to heal.

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Bubblybubbles80 · 09/05/2015 21:19

Thanks for getting back to me size three. Im not really sure about trials but thanks for the pointer. my first m/c was natural second was mmc and this one maybe a mmc. are you still trying to conceive. i guess the one positive is at least I'm conceiving its just soo disappointing as each time i think its going to be a good one.

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sizethree · 10/05/2015 00:02

It's hard, as you're right that being able to conceive is a positive, but it doesn't feel very positive nor much of a comfort at all when it keeps not working out.
My first was a MMC and I had medical management. 2nd was natural miscarrusge abd third I opted for the surgical management as it was the most efficient way for my body to cope I felt.
I'm lucky in the fact that when we TTC I fall pregnabt quickly.
I chose to take part in the medical trial and I'm currentky 14+2, and terrified.
I was told about the trial by the EPU nurses when my third MC was confirmed. I took a while to think about it and sized up my options and decided to take part as he extra care (scans every 2 weeks for first 12 weeks) and support really helped. But I know that daily injections aren't everyone's cup of tea!
You should be referred by yiur care team to a recurrent Muscarriage clinic at your local hospital, and they will start doing the tests.
It is such a horrible heat breaking situation and I really feel for you.

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Bubblybubbles80 · 10/05/2015 09:06

That's good news let me know how u get on I'm interested in a success story. I want the surgical option too coz I want to get back to normal as quick as possible. Do you hormones crash quickly. Hopefully I will get referred where I work as I work in a hospital. They are really good I have had loads of scans just a shame what they scanning is never a baby, I too like you fall pg normally in one or two months of ttc. This time I wasn't even ttc I just got back from a holiday

Oh well wish me luck for weds. Hopefully I won't get toooo upset.

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bakingtins · 10/05/2015 09:20

V sorry for your losses bubbly and also can't recommend the recurrent miscarriage threads highly enough. I had 3 miscarriages 2012-13 and then had my daughter who will be one next week on the Coventry protocol, which you'd hear a lot about on the thread.
In your shoes if a MMC is confirmed I would request genetic testing of the embryo/sac, get the ball rolling on the NHS tests and do some reading up on the Coventry implantation clinic and the Response trial to see if either is an option. Three MC is really shit, but you will now get some support in looking for answers.

lauraa4 · 10/05/2015 11:25

I had a mmc last year and found the whole experience very traumatic so I do know what your going through. I opted for the surgical management having also experienced the medical management. I found the surgical management to be the best thing for me. I wanted to be put to sleep and not see anything, I woke up and didn't have any pain (I might have just been lucky) I had a period like bleeding for a couple of days and then really light for about a week after that. As for my hormones well apart from the obvious grieving and being very angry and upset well they stopped within a couple of days. it took me exactly a year to conceive again and I am now 20 weeks + 4 days pregnant with a little boy. I just put what happened last year down to bad luck. I hope the time comes for you too x

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Bubblybubbles80 · 10/05/2015 18:02

thank you for your responses. lauraa4 congratulations on your pregnancy i hope everything goes well. thanks for your advice about surgical route, may i ask how much time off work did you have? i have to wait to weds to have the mmc confirmed it feels like its ages away.

with the surgical option they will have tissue to do the genetic testing on to. another question how long before you got your test results back to say yes things were ok or not.

thanks in advance

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sizethree · 10/05/2015 18:41

I took nearly 3 weeks off work. From the day I found out to the day I returned back. As it was my third within a year it really knocked me sideways and I was very unlucky as i picked up an infection which lengthened my recovery time (which is rare so please don't worry).
I chose the surgical option as I fekg if was the most efficient way to gather the tissue for genetic testing. And the least traumatic option for me to cope with.
The op is really quick, you're under anaesthetic for under half an hour and in and out within an afternoon usually.
It took only a fortnight for the I itial results to come back. But we had further testing done and that took nearly 4 months. I'm based in edinburgh so it may depend on your local authority for timings etc.
Wednesday must feel like an age away, im hoping it passes as fast and calmly as possible for you.

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Bubblybubbles80 · 10/05/2015 19:30

i took 3 weeks off with ny natural miscarriage, the medical one i took 2 rushed back to work only to take time off again due to cold and flue.

it does feel llke an age away not only that all the stress and over thinning maybe this maybe that, why me again 3 rd time. sometimes i feel like I'm being punished for something i done

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sizethree · 10/05/2015 19:55

There at never be a definite answer, but I can reassure you that it's got absolutely nothing to do with anything you've done or as a punishment. I too felt like its was so unfair that it did few like being punished. But life can just be awfully unkind sometimes, with no reasons why.
Be kind to yourself and remember its always darkest before the dawn.

CraftyCrafterson · 10/05/2015 20:03

Op I think you're writing things off too quickly.
You say 'I think this is too small' but did anyone medical give you any indication that it was small? I can see why you're trying to protect yourself and I'm so sorry you've lost two babies but there's still hope for this one.
I just don't want you writing it off if there's still a chance for it

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Bubblybubbles80 · 10/05/2015 20:41

the nurse had said to me its small and they need to rescan next week. they expect 1cm not 2.8mm.

thanks size three its just hard to understand and i guess i will never understand just deal with it day by day.

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CraftyCrafterson · 11/05/2015 07:49

Sorry op I didn't realise the nurse had said it was small too.

lauraa4 · 11/05/2015 09:30

Hi Bubbly,

I had three days off work. Had my d&c on the Thursday and was back to work the following Monday. I found this best for me as I didn't want to be stuck in the house and felt well enough to return to work. The hospital said they would only call me if they found any concerns/problems with the tissue. I didn't get a call so I assumed it was just down to bad luck :(

I would suggest you have the tests though just in case they find anything.

Please let me know if you want any further info or reassurance x

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Bubblybubbles80 · 11/05/2015 10:40

thanks laura, i think they will refer me to to tests i will ask them if they don't. lets see what happens i just really want these two days to go by really quickly so i can move on to recovery if i need to.

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lauraa4 · 11/05/2015 11:51

They will always ask your permission to test for problems. They said to me it may help in any future pregnancies I had.

Luckily (touch wood) my little one is OK this time. I have my anomaly scan tomorrow and am very scared but am hoping all is OK.

If you do decide to allow them to check the tissue don't be too disheartened if nothing comes back. I was hoping for answers but never got them. Sometimes these things happen and we never know why. For ages I was torturing myself over it but in the end I had to just accept what happened.

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Bubblybubbles80 · 12/05/2015 09:54

thanks lauraa i think i will go with checking the tissue then do the nhs tests and maybe see a consultant i don't mind throwing some money at it.

good luck with your scan today. mines tommorow not long left. there is a small part of me that is hopeful that tomorrow will be ok and the baby has grown loads and everything will be fine. deep down I'm trying to prepare myself for the worst

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lauraa4 · 12/05/2015 12:23

Please let me know how you get on and what they say to you.

Fingers crossed for you for tomorrow x

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Bubblybubbles80 · 12/05/2015 20:51

thanks i will do lauraa4

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Bubblybubbles80 · 13/05/2015 11:51

Confirmed no growth from last week ;(

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lauraa4 · 13/05/2015 13:19

Oh no I'm so sorry :( have they spoken with you about what you would like to do moving forward? X

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Bubblybubbles80 · 13/05/2015 15:59

thank you i have decided for surgical option. i am booked for tuesday. they also said to me they will test the tissue and I'm being referred to the recurrent miscarriage clinic.

i am focusing on recovery now and then go on holiday hopefully by the time i get back the clinic would have been in touch and then lets see what the outcome of the results are. if nothing conclusive then perhaps i will try the coventry I'm not too sure. there are obviously a few more things to try before giving up

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lauraa4 · 13/05/2015 16:07

I chose the surgical option last time and found it the best choice for me as it was all just too much.

I really hope you find the answers your looking for, and if not don't give up x

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Bubblybubbles80 · 13/05/2015 16:09

laura how did your scan go yesterday i forgot to ask. i hope so too, at least there are still some options, I'm trying to focus on the positives as i have been able to be pregnant

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lauraa4 · 13/05/2015 16:28

have you always miscarried very early on? Also is this the first time they are doing tests?

I am very thankful that my anomaly scan yesterday went well. I have been told to relax now and enjoy my pregnancy rather than stress over everything. Thank you for asking, I really hope they find out what the problem is and can help you.

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