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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

No baby at scan just nothing there yet I defiantly am or was pregnant!

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puzzledleopard · 15/04/2015 10:42

I apologise in advance at the length of this post! I posted previously another thread maybe in conception I was 13 days late for period when I finally tested line was faint but clearly visible Mon 6th I got BFP I tested again this Monday and it was darker. According to my LMP 27th Feb since I'm 26 day cycle should be due around the 01st Dec making me 7 weeks almost.

Monday night went to bed as usual everything fine Tuesday morning went to loo was pink when I wiped then slightly red then a tiny piece of clotting was just a tiny bit then had some brown throughout the day.

Phoned midwife straight away as my first appointment was at 2pm she said call the EPU and gave me the details. They arranged an appointment for 2pm and I went had an early scan and I could tell by the questions they were asking and the woman training she was struggling I could tell all the way through something was wrong. The woman training her tried incase also.

Was not expecting the answer I got! She said there is nothing there and questioned me but then sensing I was upset said maybe I'm too early and actually ovulated later or this cycle is longer? But most scans seem to pick something up at 5 weeks at least something a sac or a black blob there was nothing!

I got my bloods done at 4pm they phoned at 6:45 I'm defiantly pregnant Hcg of 526 so basically it means nothing on its own :( I'm going back tomorrow (Thursday at 2pm) 526 would be right for 3-4 weeks or just into 5 weeks pregnant but for 7 weeks I was supposed to be should have expected in the 2000s and above 1600 supposed to be something on the scan. But I know this isn't one fits all everyone is different!

They said basically If it doubles it's too early if it goes up but doesn't double it points towards ectopic If it's dropped then I guess we know what the tiny amount of bleeding was all about. I had periods when pregnant with my first born so I didn't know for ages I was even pregnant (so much easier not knowing early on) This pregnancy has felt strange from the start I think I just knew this wasn't going to be a normal pregnancy not one has been the same.

Hospital are contacting me constantly asking how I'm feeling because they couldn't find a baby yet my Hcg is high enough there should be one there's panic it's ectopic and growing outside my uterus or tubes or ovaries.

so if I got a positive on the 6th at 4 weeks or can it detect sooner? I'd be 5 weeks this Monday? So I'd expected something either way!?

has anyone had a scan and not found a baby to go back and find one?

Ive had chemical and blighted ovum before but nothing like this I was 15 and 20 then and didn't go through all this then went on to have a healthy baby in 2011.

Thank you for reading I know it's so long! But wanted to try and explain the situation as best as I could. Please if anyone else been through anything like this if you want to pm instead please do :)

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Number3cometome · 15/04/2015 11:11

Earliest I have got a BFP is 10dpo (so 3.5 weeks pregnant)

I guess it is possible that you got your BFP at 10DPO on the 6th which would make you nearly 5 weeks which would not show anything on the scan, but you would have raised HCG levels.

Assuming you haven't been taking any medication that could raise HCG levels, then I would wait it out and see how the blood tests go.

It is such a worry, but absolutely possible you ovulated very late (hence the missed period) and are only just pregnant (hence the light result)

Please stay positive until you know factually otherwise Flowers

Tranquilitybaby · 15/04/2015 13:11

Thinking of you, I had spotting, left sided pain and a HCG of 275 at 6 weeks and it was ectopic in my left tube sadly. I hope you have some answers soon x

puzzledleopard · 15/04/2015 15:19

Thank you both for your replies means a lot x

Have had more pain in my left hand side and more bleeding today stopped all night and has just started was still getting the brown blood but was red when I just went :(

Am trying to stay positive till we know all the facts but we have both come to the conclusion this is it :( Im feeling it never developed into enough but gave me the hormones needed to test positive as don't get how there can be absolutely nothing there within hours of bleeding showing and it wasnt even 1 tsp worth.

I am absolutely devastated and terrified of going tomorrow to confirm it :( but I know if it's the other option and its ectopic then I need it discovered straight away. I'm trying to be as normal as I can for my little girls sake as she doesn't understand :( She told nursery a few weeks ago I was pregnant with twins.... Just made it up on the spot turns out she was right I was pregnant and didn't even know myself! She doesn't know but she told my sister I was also on the day she collected her when I was at the hospital yesterday.

I said I have never told my daughter anything but I had said please dont jump on me I'm sore. I said it hadn't gone very well at the hospital she said Good! Because I'm stupid, its a stupid idea. So basically on the day I may well have lost my baby she says its good!

I'm no longer talking to her or want her apart of my life. How people can be so nasty in these circumstances I don't know :(

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Coraltee123 · 15/04/2015 15:40

My friend had exactly the same went for her booking scan and they couldn't see a baby so she was booked in for another and they found her baby she now has a perfectly healthy baby boy xx

Number3cometome · 15/04/2015 15:52

So sorry to hear that OP - why does she think its a bad idea?

BifsWif · 15/04/2015 16:42

Did they do an internal scan? It would be very difficult to see a 5 week pregnancy on an abdominal scan alone. Fingers crossed for good news.

puzzledleopard · 15/04/2015 16:44

I don't exactly know we stopped talking a while ago because she asked for my view on a situation then didn't like or agree with my opinion which is fine but she brought my partner into it for no reason to create a slanging match which I said I had no interest in. I ended up being the one apologising but she ignored calls and text. I asked her not expecting her to agree tbh but I think she knew I wouldn't ask if I wasn't desperate. I may point out she did it in front of 10 people at daughters swimming group announced it in front of them all I burst into tears and kept my back to them all.

She doesn't like my relationship with my partner and I don't believe it's him in general because before we were together officially she was absolutely fine with him then when we got together she's been a mess. She's not happy in her own relationship but feels she can't do anything. About a year ago I left my controlling relationship for a new life (it was dead months before I left I was too scared to do anything) then I ended up getting with my closest friend of 8 years we have been together around 8 months but not all officially because of my daughter and ex. It sounds horrible but I just think it's jelousy of me being happy in a relationship and she desperately isn't!

We were planning on moving in end may by beginning of June so my daughter can start her new school without disruptions so the timing of it all is a mess this baby was not planned but still loved! We were terrified but even more so of losing him or her.

I'm not sure there is the right time? there is always something!

I'm struggling so much I love my partner so much and we talk about anything and everything always have but this I'm really struggling with this because my emotions are all over :(

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puzzledleopard · 15/04/2015 16:56

Hi thanks Coraltee that's a great story glad all went well with your friend :) gives me some hope x

Yes it was an internal scan BifsWif Sorry I should have said :(

I have absolutely no idea what weeks I'm at all I know is my last LMP was 27/02 which lasted 1 day and based on the average ovulation times Should have been 11/03 so unless my cycle was longer than a 26 day or I ovulated later or both! Just seems so unrealistic that's the case but my body is all over and I was taking cerezette.

I'm guessing I will know something at least around this time tomorrow partner is working from home so he can be hear to find out the news together at least.

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Tranquilitybaby · 15/04/2015 17:09

Thinking of you. I must admit and hate to say it, but your symptoms sound very similar to mine. If the pain suddenly gets worse, go straight to A&E or the EPU x

TakesTwoToTango · 15/04/2015 18:41

OP, there is a chance its not ectopic and just a 'straight forward' early mc. I was 7 wks with my first pg and had a very little bit of spotting so GP referred me to EPU. Internal scan showed that my uterus was completely empty, but I was still testing positive on a pg test. It turned out that I had been pg, but it had failed at a very, very early stage, before anything visible had developed, and my HCG levels were in the process of falling. Within a day or two I had a heavy period and after that tests negative on a hpt. I'm sorry its not a completely positive story, but hopefully it will make you feel better to know there is a possibility it may not be ectopic. Good luck!

MidnightSun77 · 15/04/2015 19:21

I hope you get good news.

I had my first scan at 4 weeks (due to sudden severe pain) and they couldn't see anything at all, just thickened womb lining. They thought it was later than 4 weeks so initially (dates were wrong) so doctors said it was likely to be ectopic. My HCG levels didn't quite double either- they rose by 66% (cut-off point for it being considered a 'viable pregnancy 's 65%!)
At 5 week scan they found a yoke sac in womb, ruling out ectopic.
At 7 week scan they found viable heartbeat.

Don't give up hope! Good luck.

Number3cometome · 15/04/2015 20:47

OP was you on cerazette when you got pregnant or had just come off it?
I had a progesterone test on day 21 and had not ovulated but ovulated late that month and became pregnant - now 26+3

puzzledleopard · 15/04/2015 21:48

Thank you tranquillitybaby & takestwototango I understand what you mean x
Thank you midnightsun trying not to give up hope but I'm guessing either way what's meant to be will be guess x

number3
I was on it never missed a pill but I've been really ill I'd had a water infection from the beginning of Feb to the middle of March and I had sickness at some points in March because I was so run down.

I have no idea what my progesterone is from my bloods this time was interested to know. They asked about all the progesterone type drugs I'd had in the past not sure how that's relevent though! I dont know the effects cerezette has but it maybe has messed my cycle up but usually it's spot on 26 days but from the beginning of Feb it's played up as I usually have a 5-7 day bleed and my last period was 1 day!

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SaggyAndLucy · 16/04/2015 02:41

Hi.
I'm sorry to say your circumstances sound exactly what I went through a couple of years ago. I was also in cerazette.
I had a small amount of clotting, then a bfp, then weird brown blood. I too went to the EPU and was told that although my HCG was around 500 they could see nothing. The HCG level was wrong for dates.
The Brown weirdness carried on with right sided twinges of pain and I went back for a second scan. They could see the remains of 'something' on my ovary.
The general consensus is that I had been pg, but the pg had been ectopic with the embryo implanting on my ovary. I had subsequently miscarried.
apparently ectopic is common with photos whilst taking cerazette.
I was gutted at the time, but I have come to realise that I was very lucky. its a horrible thing to think about, but the pg was doomed from the start and could have had serious repercussions had it continued to grow.
Very quickly afterwards I became pg again with my beautiful DD2 .
I really hope that I'm barking up the wrong tree here though, good luck and stay strong. x

WiIdfire · 16/04/2015 03:47

I had exactly the same as you, with positive HCG but nothing seen (called a PUL - pregnancy of unknown location) and unfortunately mine ended up failing, and being treated as a suspected ectopic, although it was never officially found. I know negative stories arent necessarily what you want to hear right now, but you need to prepare yourself for possibly a few weeks of repeat scans and blood tests until you know either way. On the good side, I am now 29/40 with the next pregnancy so happy outcome after all.

Number3cometome · 16/04/2015 10:02

puzzledleopard

I didn't have any bleeds on cerazette for 7 years - it stops periods for many (but not all) and can alter your cycle, so very possible you ovulated late.

Are you happy to be pregnant?

Number3cometome · 16/04/2015 10:03

I also agree, cerazette does come with warnings of ectopics.

Hopefully more news today OP?

puzzledleopard · 16/04/2015 14:43

Waiting at the hospital for repeated bloods and tests I've decided to go home once they are done and return later if asked as when I left on Tuesday if it was high they wanted me back straight away but I was lowish anyway at 526.

Thanks to everyone that's posted it's good to hear all stories good and bad

I was initially scared when I first found out we both were! We have so much going on! But the night before I had the bleeding we had come to terms and we were happy though it would be a struggle initially but we guessed things happened for a reason and this baby was meant to be. Now I'm not sure what to think :(

I can't change anything I haven't done anything that could effect a pregnancy other than I was trying to prevent getting pregnant with cerezette.

I'm not feeling too good today I've been having panic attacks I don't want to be in limbo but I'm terrified that this is it :( my little girl is with her dad from Friday which is a good idea but my partner is also away he's been working from home 2 days but has to get back so I'm going to be alone :( I've been crying for my mum at 28! And I never do that :(

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jerryfudd · 16/04/2015 14:49

So sorry you're going through this. I had similar and unfortunately mine was ectopic and required surgery (and I lost a tube). Hope you get some answers soon

Tranquilitybaby · 16/04/2015 18:02

Thinking of you, limbo is horrible. Reading your posts brings it all back for me, I really hope your story will be a happier one. Take care.

puzzledleopard · 16/04/2015 21:39

Thanks for all the well wishes and everyone that's posted.

Phoned the ward 7:30pm after 15mins on hold she finally got my results 370 :(
So it's dropping so definitely Mc :( not had lots of bleeding but Maybe I will soon :(
I have to go back again Saturday 3pm to repeat the rest still getting a pain in my left hand side.

They are still concerned it's somewhere In my body its not supposed to be she was running though everything if the pain gets worse if I get pains in my shoulder tips. Seems they still seem to think it's ectopic have to go on the ward and possibly for another scan :(

We have both cried our eyes out non stop since we found out. My friend asked if we could try for another but I don't think I'd be ready for that not sure I will be. All I can think about is how at Christmas I'd have been holding our baby and now that wont be happening :( our circumstances are not great :( but we were going to try our best to make it all work for the best. It would not be a good idea to plan a baby into these circumstances so trying for one definitely isn't the right way to go about it :(

I understand why she would say it I really was looking forwards to this baby with my partner. I love him so much he's a great partner & dad /step dad perhaps we will get the chance again and work out for the best .

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Tranquilitybaby · 16/04/2015 22:09

I'm so sorry to hear that, take it very easy, grieve and just be kind to yourself. It never goes away, I'm not going to lie, but hopefully the future will be brighter for you. X

BifsWif · 16/04/2015 22:34

I'm so sorry to read this Sad.

Please look after yourself and take the time you need to grieve properly Flowers

SaggyAndLucy · 16/04/2015 23:08

I'm so sorry. I wish my post had been wrong.
I know how hard this is and how awful it feels, and it's so unfair. Sad
Take care of yourself and let yourself grieve. best wishes. x

Number3cometome · 17/04/2015 09:41

I'm so sorry OP, this is nothing that you have done wrong, please take care.