Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Haha lucinda like you can change those eh?! Yes I had a lively rest yesterday, plan on doing a few bits in the house today. My mum has emptied the family home of all my remaining stuff so it all needs going through. I found a pair of knee high doc martens who have I hardly wore so I should get a few quid for those!

zuid I had a few disapproving comments from my MIL and mum. The worst from MIL asking if I was sure I wasn't just hungry! Are you kidding me?!

We just have to keep reminding ourselves that they haven't been through it so they don't understand. I just smile sweetly (through gritted teeth) and picture hot tea accidentally spilling all over them.

Mine brought round some gingerbread on Sunday. Despite repeated conversations about how useless it is.

I've barely managed to keep anything down since Saturday. How the hell is gingerbread going to help!?

no no, okla, just aim the bile run in their directoin .... they'll get the message in the end.

lotte, thinking of you and wishing you and the baby all the best. I hope the journey to and from the hosptial isnt too stressful, too.

They are going to examine me on friday. C-Sectoin not an option sigh. I am feeling better physically with doing less and sleeping more, not that I was doing very much now, even the small everyday stuff round the house was apparently draining me. also, i can go home in the daytimes (if i can get a lift that is) for a few hours.

They are also giving me the option to ask for the pethedine sleeping injection when I need it, with the understanding that I won't ask for it eveyr night due to the potential dangers. That really helps because I know now that I can get a good night's sleep if things have been going badly.

Just caught up with the thread. starry I think the meto is fine if you are having no side effects. I was on it for months and eventually came off it because of the intense twitchiness/restlessness, which became increasingly worse - I was unable to stop moving. I am a bit cross that no-one asked me about this, as when I spoke to the GP this time about pre-emptive meds I mentioned that I'd rather not have meto again as I disliked the neurological effects and she was a bit horrified and said I absolutely MUST NOT ever take it again as a second time the neurological symptoms might be permanent. She put a big thing in my notes about it.

So basically I think it is absolutely fine as long as you feel fine on it, but if you do notice increased twitchiness/restlessness you should mention it and probably come off it. Safety record for the baby seems v. good though.

I'll add that I was on lots and lots of drugs and actually I don't think the meto was doing that much for me anyway (apart from making me twitch, obviously!) so I am not bothered about not being able to use it a second time.

Forgot to say - I was definitely on the meto at max dose for more than 12 weeks, I think it had been more like 16 when I decided to ditch it.

Starry
I had ELSCS last time too, he was breech.
I found it a pleasant experience too. Luckily I was first on the list. Having the spinal was a bit weird (I didn't enjoy not being able to move my legs!!) but they let us play our own music, skin to skin afterwards, OH cut the cord. I have a cracking photo of The Little Boy being lifted out and up by the obstetrician. Recovery was very quick too, walked to the pub on day four :-)

Meerka still hoping things move soon for you.... Damn those anti-CS medics!!

Aw Living that is pretty upsetting re the breastfeeding :-(
I wish people would just be nicer and a bit more considerate. Hehe I got a so called temporary tattoo years and years ago. Showed it to my Ma and she loved it....so much so that I took her to get one. Unfortunately temporary actually meant permanent so I got my mother a tattoo for life! She was a good sport about it though :-)

Lottie well done on getting back to work. I'm stuck on one day a week, takes me days to recover and if I go back to soon I just vomit a lot and feel pretty ill :-(
Hope all goes well at hospital x

the consultant says all is ok! There are a couple of unusual things but they aren't unique to me and the baby is still healthy and doing well. So so relieved, can't believe how good I feel now with the horrendous worry gone! Thanks so much for all the support! (Big hugs)

Great news lottie!!!! I'm so pleased for you xx

Hi all,
Punk, that's great your experience of an elcs. Very positive indeed the ones I've heard of had much longer recovery time.

Meerka, just to say I'm glad you're getting some rest. I wonder what the stats are like here. It's interesting the European approach isn't it. I tried to get an explanation for it and I keep getting told it's a belief that nature's way is best and natural instinct always takes over, well yes to an extent but sometimes mother nature needs a helping hand. I couldn't believe that blog I read of the local hospital just offering panadol after a birth with forceps and an episiotomy! I think the approach here will be similar regarding c sections.

Agree with the others living and I like that idea Oaklahoma.

kali, that's good advice about the meds.

Lottie, thinking of you.

I managed a puke free day yesterday so worked with dh today and am now knackered so going to have a siesta before I decide if I can stomach any dinner.

meerka, kalidasa thanks for the info - the permanent twitchiness/restlessness would be awful! I've been on it about 13wks now without any side effects (famous last words...) but I'm still nauseous and still being sick at 25wks, but less often than even a few weeks ago.

lou, punk - it is so good to hear positive stories about ELCS. With my increasingly worse panic attacks, there is just no way I want to go with a natural birth.

living honestly, how judgemental! No wonder having your mother visit is so stressful. I wish some people could see how their words and actions affected the people they love.

I'm totally taken aback by the difference between the UK and Netherlands re: painrelief and cs for childbirth. I honestly assumed it would be quite similar. Right now, I'm very glad I'm in the UK.

Today really, really tired. Have slept most of the morning and now that I've been awake a few hours, I feel so tired and increasingly sick too :-( I think I might hunker down in bed again with a book and doze off. Haven't been this tired before and I was completely relaxing at home all day yesterday too.

Does/did anyone else have days of complete exhaustion c.25wks?

Lottie that is amazing news, so pleased that everything is ok!!

Cross post there great news Lottie!

Brilliant Lottie, what a relief!

Lottie I'm so delighted for you! What a wonderful relief.
Kalidisa I'm a bit horrified too- I think that someone might have warned you to tell them if you had those symptoms! Thank goodness they weren't permanent!
Waves to all. Back soon.
xx

lottie am so pleased. what a weight off your mind for you both.

kali I'm amazed no one warned you aobut the meto - thank heavens you stopped it! I got twitchy on it and itchy but assumed it was minor - no way will i take it again, no matter how sick I'm feeling.

punk i hope you're doing okay today

mrsnec all this 'natural instinct takes over" ... Im not convinced any more. It does for some people but not everyone. If it was that bloody powerful, we'd never need medical intervention or training at all. And quite a few people with HG only ever have one baby when they'd really prefer more. If people are left being so 'natural' that they end up having to avoid having more children, something is wrong.

starry ... yes to the exhaustion. Hope you feel better tomorrow

for mother hen cause you're amazing

its weird. when im sitting on the hospital bed, I don't feel sick until I move and only upchuck rarely. I'm sure I seem fine and a bit of a fraud. At home, i feel ok in bed but the moemnt i get up, even just to the loo, I feel sick again. Why is it that I'm ok in bed, but any movement and it's back to grim nausea?

meerka exactly the same with me. It almost feels like motion sickness. When I'm lying/sitting in bed, I feel vaguely 'normal' and as if I could get up and get on with life as I used to. But, as soon as I start moving, that's it, I feel like hell again and retreat to my bed. I've no idea why this is either... but you are definitely not alone in feeling like that. Actually, I'm lying in bed right now!

Meerka & Starry same here. Not moving is ok ish but anything else is terrible!

Meerka It's so sweet of you to say that - and I think we all feel the same about you!
xx

Agreed!! This thread and the support on it is all that gets me through some days! Thank you x

Ditto to all that! Oklahoma I feel just the same way about this thread too - knowing that there are people who understand and experience this awful illness and the isolation and everything else that goes with it.

Does anyone know if any studies have been done into hg? I've been doing some googling on it and can't find very much at all which seems pretty surprising to me. The only thing I could find was on the PSS pages which mentioned the 5 types of HcG and that one of those could be causing hg. I sort of wish the Duchess of Cambridge would get involved in some way to give the condition a higher profile and maybe, just maybe persuade someone to do some serious research into it so women in the future might get some proper relief from it.

theres actually quite a lot of studies have been done. What area of info are you looking for? At various times I've found various reports, can probably dig em up again though some are serious med-speak that I dont understand and others you have to pay to access

the HER forums, US based, have a research section. here There's also studies into the meds commonly used, though not always that many.

meerka you are my fount of knowledge!! Thank you for that link - I hadn't come across it and I'm looking forward to reading through the different threads.

Naively, I was hoping that there had been a ground-breaking study that somehow explained everything and which would lead to a cure for all of us... as I said, naïve. I know there can't be a one size fits all cure for hg, but my god it would be nice. On the face of it, it sounds so simple to make a drug that will stop us being and feeling sick, without any side effects for us or our babies, but of course it isn't.

omg - the helpher.org website is incredible!! I feel like a complete idiot for not coming across it sooner - reading it avidly!! Thanks so much meerka!!!