PG after MC, the new and shiny POSIFRICKINTIVITY thread...

[SaggyOldClothCatPuss]

Oops! I posted the last post and didn't link to a new thread! Sorry!
Anyway, here it is, come on in for the best support going and a safe place to vent. and a lovely squishy new set of twins

Good luck today sleep hope all is well.

Janie hope you feel better after a duvet day.

Forgot to say good luck to garden on the camping! we are going away in a tent for the first time next week. We've done lots of campervanning but I'm not that enthused about tenting particularly if the weather is anything like today (rain rain rain!) I'm sure it'll be lovely though

Goodluck sleep xxx

Anda however sad last nights programme was, everyone had healthy babies at the end. Your babies will be here soon, happy & healthy

So I POAdigi this morning to check it had gone up from the one I did three weeks ago and it had - instead of 1-2 weeks it says 3+. Obviously this is good and I'd have been devastated if it had stayed at 1-2 weeks but I also feel not that reassured because i'm 7 weeks pg (i think) and if it's another mmc then it would have gone up since the last one anyway...guess I wanted the stick to shout YES you are definitely pg, there's a baby in there so you can stop worrying. Which was never going to happen. Pointless waste of money. Aagh a week until 8 week scan and it feels SO far away.

janie enjoy your duvet day!! V jealous! Sounds like you're definitely entitled to one!

Keep yourself busy Birds. These early days are soooo hard. I must have done about 15 plus tests to the point they went lighter again! Congrats on your BFP.

5+3 and still here! Will sob at my doctor (who couldn't bear it when I cried after the miscarriage) until he sends me for an 8 week scan, so not too, too long to wait god darned forever!

Had no idea PG after MC would feel harder (for me) than the miscarriage did. It's the hope that's a killer. Sounds really, truly, awful of me, but by Saturday I'd got to the point where I just wished it would hurry up and miscarry, as I was so sure it would happen anyway. I think I'm a dreadful human being, but DH says it's just because I'm trying to protect myself from being that hurt again. Humph. Roll on whichever week brings my sanity back.

Thanks all for putting up with the mood swings, positive, fun filled messages, and general joyous outlook that is me right now. Can't say how much it helps to type into the murky internet. x

Janie - jealous of the duvet day. Try listening to a hypnobirthing cd - I keep trying to make it through mine, but I get so deeply relaxed every time I fall into the deepest sleep ever (unusual for me!)

Sleep - good luck

Any hints on how to keep cats out of cots? Since we set ours up at the weekend, the cat hasn't shown much interest, but I went in this morning to find him all curled up! Obviously removed him immediately, but need a way to discourage in the future!

Just been looking fur my earphones pink! Good call! As for the cat...you can actually buy things called cat nets! I only know about them because someone was giving one away in freecycle and I googled it! Not sure how much of a deterrent it would be but maybe worth a go? I know my big furbaby would probably manage to get in somehow though!

Sorry you're feeling so low Tea, only a time machine would be the answer but as others advised me, just keeping busy and having things to look forward to or a good book to distract you. X

Sleep, glad you were listened to and got a scan. Good luck. xx

I felt quite ashamed that declining a glass of wine drew a gasp from my mum this week - am I that much of a wino?! I had to quickly say I didnt fancy red did she have white, then slowly sip it and chuck the end away.

Enjoy your duvet day Janie. Hope you have some treats in.
Kat, what a lovely way to work!

Birds hope you have some things planned over the next week to help it pass. (POAS is a hard habit to kick!).

Birds I kept testing until I got 3+ on digis, then DH pointed out that it doesn't go any higher, and when I had the MC it took a month to get a negative test so there's not actually any point in still testing other than spending the money that could go towards a private scan to actually put my mind at ease. Thought that was quite a good point really, although EPU offered me 2 early scans so didn't need the cash for that in the end.

Oh, lots to catch up on!

I went to the l'enclume pop up in London in June - 'twas lovely and DH and I both want to go to the real thing sometime. If rooms are only £90, then that sounds like a deal to me :-D

pink - we used the cat net (yes, they do exist) before the baby arrived just so she never got used to the idea that she could sleep in there. And we didn't let her settle in there - so everytime we found her trying to get in we'd chase her off, just to condition her against it! To be honest, she was so horrified at the noise that the baby made when we brought it home, that she didn't go near it, so we never actually used the cat net on the cot while DD was in the cot.

Going back about 2000 pages to the runny egg thing. My understanding is that the risk of runny eggs is that they may contain salmonella. However, any egg with a lion stamp on (i.e. all commercially sold british eggs) has been vaccinated against salmonella. I therefore change my buying tactics when I'm pg and ONLY buy supermarket eggs (not farm eggs) because that way, I'm happy to eat them raw/runny. That's just my understanding and risk assessment though! With everythign on the "banned" list, I try to find out why its banned and what the actual risk is and then decide for myself.

And on the miscarriage statistics, I found this a useful resource: [[https://sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/miscarriage-general
]] (though I can't open it at work, so I'm not sure if this link is working today). You need to understand a bit about statistics and read it carefully - its not user friendly, but if that's your sort of thing, I found it quite reassuring, particularly in the "chances of miscarrying after x number of weeks".

Good luck today sleep

Pink try filling a cleaning spray bottle with water and any time cat goes near cot/Moses basket give him a good spray. He will soon leave well alone I think. But a cat net might be worth it for good measure. Our cat is banned from upstairs at all times, mostly because of my allergiss, as well so you could try enforcing that rule now.

Have worked out I only have 23 working days left if i minus the bank hol, odd day off and the weeks leave I have in a couple of weeks. That sounds more manageable thn the 6 weeks I had in my head .

Good luck with scans today x

Pink my DFs cat kept getting into DSis pram. DSM fixed the problem. She very carefully put the cover over the pram, pulled up the hood, applied the cat net...and shook the fuck out of the pram!
The cat departed quicker than lightning and never went near the pram again!
Birds, step away from the pg tests! Look at it logically.
A/ digi tests can be up to 10 days out.
B/ they only go up to 3+.
C/ as DH says, BFPs can linger WAY after MC.
D/ its costing you a fortune! All you are doing is lining some fat cats pockets with your insecurity.
All you are doing is torturing yourself. You are never going to get that ultimate reassurance from a pg test, it just gives you something more to worry about. Lock any you have left in the bathroom cabinet and go and do something positive and totally unrelated to pg!
I know its hard honey, but there's only one thing that will put your mind at rest and that is a scan in a week. You need to try and distract yourself until then!
nothing more zealous than a reformed sinner

Ooh good cat tips! I had seen cat nets - my kitty is a Maine coon though so is quite large, wasn't sure if it would work with him. I will give it a go, as I can't be having this when baby comes along, but as he is a house cat he has full run of the house. Also will re employ the spray bottle!

The positivity on here is so reassuring! Thank you for all the kind words - this thread moves so quickly I have totally failed to keep up but the mantra of 'today I am pregnant' is currently keeping me sane.

I was pleased to read on the miscarriage stats site that eating chocolate daily is associated with a 19% reduction in miscarriage risk! (Also fruit and vegetables but sssh!) So thank you WhatWillSantaBring for posting the link!

My cat treated everything baby related (including baby) with complete and utter disdain so we never had to worry about finding him in the cot or pram! He was highly unimpressed - though has softened slightly now baby has become toddler and is keen on stroking and fussing over him!

In my first pregnancy I was really sick and was miserable about it - now praying for nausea to kick in which feels very odd...

Also RainbowConnection I declined a glass of wine at a wedding on Sun and my friend gasped and said "how many weeks are you?!!" It is impossible to hide it!

Ok. Those statistics have totally freaked me out! I'm over 35, DP is over 40 and I have a previous MC! There's an awful lot of numbers there!

Pink I would be discouraging the cat from being in the nursery and anywhere that is the baby's territory. Free rein is ok, until he decides to go completely weird and leave a large pile of shits behind the TV in the back lounge, or worse the cot!

kat lol at your 20 tests!! Impressive! I've actually been much better this time round - this was only my 3rd POAS since BFP - one first response and two digis - so a marked improvement on last time, about 12!! rock you're absolutely right and even as I started opening the packet this morning I was saying to myself, you know this is pointless don't you?! Must keep busy. Maybe some gardening this evening and painting a bedroom at the weekend, that should do it.

Working from bed sounds awesome. I remember that from student days - usually surprisingly productive writing essays in bed!

teaandanatter yay you're still with us. One day at a time. Sorry you're finding it so tough. Oh for a time machine and some future predicting pg tests. Your DH sounds lovely and sane and supportive though.

rainbow I got the same reaction from my mum when we were ttc and I turned down a glass of wine at lunch. Obv she has me down as a dedicated boozer! Thank goodness my 8 week scan is before the big family weekend we're doing for her birthday so if all is well then I can just tell them, rather than ridiculously obvious 'pretending to drink' for three days, which was a total failure last time.

santa l'enclume pop-up sounds ace, I'll have to keep an eye out for another one of those! And I like the thinking on eggs. I totally agree, just haven't been quite brave enough yet... The miscarriage stats are really interesting and I think helpful to have some evidence based numbers - especially for after you've seen heartbeat - rather than the usual woolliness. Will have a proper look at them after work.

Right, have been writing this on and off all morning so posting it now - doubtless it'll be totally out of date!

Thinking of you today sleep fx everything is ok.

Bird step away from the CBD!! won't admit I'm doing exactly the same thing

kat and janie I am super jealous of your duvet days. I have popped out to meet a friend for coffee and I think I might die. I can't believe how bad the nausea is. And why the hell did I decide to wear jeans!! I'm booling alive! Does anyone have any tips on how not to throw up on the tube? I have no idea how I'm going to make it through coffee an back home. I don't even want to think about work tonight. Keep trying to remind myself I was desperate to feel this ill as it can only be a good sign right? Have two friends who are currently sailing through their pregnancies free of ms - I'm beyond jealous

bod you have TRAINED your cat not to go upstairs?? How is that possible?!

Our stair carpet is starting to look pretty fluffy from our cat scratching so having read all this i'll be deploying the spray bottle the next time he starts having a go at it, i think!

saggy I know, I know, I have officially stepped away from the POAS. That was my last one

Birds he has just not been allowed up from the start. He stays in the kitchen diner and lounge only and the doors to the hallway are closed almost all of the time. When he does occasionally come up, normally if he wants food off us, he gets shooed of immediately so he has generally stopped bothering. I have also trained him to sit on command!

Pink Maine coons are gorgeous. Yours is a ginger one too isn't it? Mine is a Siberian so very similar type of breed. Massive cat with masses of fur! He is supposed to be a low allergy breed which is why we got him. He is amazing with kids though. My nieces are constantly pulling n prodding at him and he just sits here and takes it!

Feeling for all the first trimester people. Don't miss it at all. But just think second trimester next Which is bliss compared to the shitty third trimester. Make sure you all
Make the most of it and go out for lots of nice meals xxxx

sleep good luck with your scan today!

janie I'm so jealous of your duvet day - enjoy!

kjh5 - I agree with kat: bottle of water! Maybe a cracker too. It is a good sign!

My last day at work will be Oct.4th so 31 working days left (that's including days for midwife appointments and antenatal classes) - it sounds like a lot, doesn't it? Slightly disappointed now!

Two friends have just had their babies and they're so cute!

Bod - no, he's a silver tabby. I think he will be fine around baby, he is very good when my neice comes over to poke him - just stays well clear of her! I'm hoping the same will follow for baby :)
Love siberians! So cute!