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Possible MMC or potentially 2 weeks out on dates

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lucidlady · 15/07/2013 09:05

Im using my phone so apologies in advance for any typos. Just wondering if anyone has been in this situation or has any advice.

I am currently expecting DC2. My last LMP was around 17 May. DH and I DTD around 21/22/23 May. I got a smiley OPK on 25 May but we didn't DTD. BFP on 4 June, with EDD of 17 Feb. Based on dates I should be around 9 weeks.

In week 7 I had some spotting, which I wasn't too worried about because it was brown and also I had this with DD1. I then had a single drop of bright red blood, so my GP sent me to my local EPAU for an internal scan. Scan showed a yolk sac and potential foetal pole of 2.9mm but they couldn't be sure and told me to come back in 2 weeks.

Went back last Thursday to be told that foetal pole was now 4.9mm so wasn't growing properly and had v slow heartbeat, so they thought I would likely miscarry and I should start to think about medical intervention etc. Foetus is measuring approx 5-6 weeks.

Hospital did bloods which came back as 53781 for HCG and 36 for progesterone.

Being a bit of a stubborn type, I booked a second opinion scan at the Fetal Medicine Centre on Harley St in London. I gave the sonographer my notes from hospital.

Sonographer did another internal - foetus was now 5.3mm and as expected for 6 weeks, although gestational sac was on small side. She couldn't see a heartbeat however she said that she wouldn't normally expect to see a heartbeat below 7mm. Wouldn't commit to a diagnosis either way BECAUSE if she'd been seeing me for my first ever scan, she would have thought everything was ok - its this first scan at the hospital that is causing the doubts over viability.

I guess my question is - the HCG levels and measurements are consistent with a 6 week pregnancy. Do sonographers ever get it very wrong? That first scan would have to be so wrong for there to be any hope here, really.

Thanks for reading if you've made it this far Smile

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lucidlady · 15/07/2013 09:07

Obviously the heartbeat is another issue... I really need to stop googling and driving myself mad...

Forgot to mention I have another scan this Friday - I'm
Just trying to work out the likely outcome really...

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gertrudestein · 15/07/2013 13:32

I don't have any medical advice but didn't want to read and run - It sounds like the best thing you can do is wait for the next scan on Friday, which I know will seem like a lifetime away. In the meantime, google is not your friend! I hope you can enjoy the good weather and get some rest and distraction this week x

knittingirl · 15/07/2013 14:12

No medical advice either, but hand holding if you need it.

As I understand it, one HCG reading doesn't tell you anything, it's whether it doubles every few days which is key so I don't think you can read much into that. I would take heart from the second scan, that the sonographer felt everything looked ok. They are so tiny at that stage, that it's easy to mis measure.

lucidlady · 15/07/2013 15:18

Thank you gertrudestein and knittingirl - I think you're right, I need to stay away from Google and hold my nerve til Friday. This feels like the longest week of my life!!

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rb30 · 15/07/2013 19:11

I've been in a very similar situation. My lmp was 20th April, so I should be 12-13 wks now. On 10 June I went for a scan to rule out ectopic, should've been about 6-7wks was told I was 4, went for scan following week and baby had grown to 5.5 weeks, perfect I thought! On 28th June I had third scan was told baby under 6 weeks measuring at 3mm and faint heartbeat! Concerned me because baby had only grown 2 days in a 12 day window. The nurse was very blasé about it. I went for scan today - should be 8 weeks per their revised dates, and told baby no bigger than 5mm and no heartbeat! I'm devastated! Is there anything I could've done? It sounds like you going for private scan has shed some light. I might do the same. I'm sorry for sharing this as really don't want to add to your anguish

lucidlady · 16/07/2013 08:57

I'm so sorry to hear you're in the same situation rb30, it is truly awful. If you think a private scan would give you peace of mind then definitely look into it. Where are you based? If in London area, the Fetal Medicine Centre is great. Take care of yourself.

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rb30 · 16/07/2013 12:16

I'm in the midlands. There's a couple of places here I'm looking into. I'm angry that the nurse didn't take me seriously when the dates were all out of sync! I'm devastated...people say to me it just wasnt my time yet...but it really hurts my heart that I nearly became a mother after trying for 2 years and a previous mc last dec...lucidlady I really hope you get through this. I hope you get answers. I hope god fulfills that wish of yours to become a mother and you get to hold your little angel in your arms xxxx

lucidlady · 17/07/2013 21:57

Thankyou rb30 I hope you get the answers you need too. Have you talked to your GP about this, is there anyone they can refer you to?

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rb30 · 19/07/2013 12:44

Hello lucidlady. I have another scan next week then having baby removed as have had no sign of bleeding. I have gone to a different hospital who were really honest with me and having heard my experience were able to tell me when I should've started being concerned. I just appreciate their honesty. Yes have made contact with my gp who said she'll start looking into what's going on. Lucidlady good luck with your scan (it's today right?). keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you that it's good news. Xxx

lucidlady · 20/07/2013 19:33

Hi rb30 sadly my news wasn't good either - seems like my little bean died sometime last week. I'm just waiting to see if nature will take its course or not before I go for medical intervention. It's so rubbish isn't it. Thinking of you and hoping you're ok xx

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workingonitagain · 20/07/2013 20:43

im sorry to hear your news lucidlady. have been through it and know how it feels. Hope the medical bit will be over for you soon with not too much pain and soon get to have another healthy baby x

rb30 · 20/07/2013 22:35

Oh lucidlady... I am so so so so so sorry! I was praying you would have good news! I'm so sorry. All I can say is stay strong, vent the emotion / pain you feel in whichever form possible, and then start thinking of the next steps. I don't normally do memorabilia for actually anything...but it's our wedding anniversary next week and I've asked for 2 small stones to be put on my plain wedding band as a memory of the 2 precious angels I've lost. So that they always stay with me. Oh lucid I'm so sorry for what happened. My heart goes out to you. I hope you get through this and I hope you get a second chance very soon. Keep me posted on how you get on. All my love well wishes and prayers for you xxxxxxx

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