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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 01/04/2013 18:03

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine bluebirdsunshine (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kalidasa, Nannyl and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

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wavesandsmiles · 10/05/2013 09:49

I think I might look into getting a cleaner too.....would make life so much easier. Will check my budget, and see whether I can manage it.

Hyper - is there anyone else who can help or you can decamp to? You must be really disappointed that your plans have been changed so late in the day. And stress tends to make the HG worse, so this sort of thing is far from helpful.

I have good news. Of a sort. Robinson's fruit and barley in peach was on offer in my local co-op so I bought a couple of bottles so I am well stocked up again Smile It was only 75p when normally it is around £1.90! I only dashed out for milk to make my builder a coffee, but I was down to the very very last of the peach squash, so that has really cheered me up Smile

Off to hospital soonish - cannot wait as I missed yesterday due to both DCs being off school (public holiday here) and not wanting to go there, so I am in real need of my IV anti-emetics especially.

A week and a half now til my 30 week appointment with the consultant, and a scan to check on the baby's growth. This will all pass. Every day that we survive, is a day less to go.

Woofers · 10/05/2013 13:44

DIY - bucastem if it works for you is great. I had it throughout first trimester. (Then it stopped working)

Tally - the reason they are unable to do true clinical trials is to do with ethics, same in depression meds during pregnancy. However they have been looking at the figures post birth comparing the birth abnormalities with those who have no anti emetics during pregnancy and the trends are similar. As in the general conclusion is that the number per 1000 on anti emetics Vrs number per 1000 NOT on anti emetics is the same, or at least not of concern. Does that make sense?

I will find the research - unless lucinda knows any more???

As for having a cleaner - I can not live without mine. I swear it has saved my marriage. 3 hours a week. She normally does kitchen (inc fridge or oven), work tops floors dog area. Bathroom - shower bath floor clean towels. Lounge - Hoover plump cushions make pretty and dust.
However, she is fab and she has sorted out airing cupboard and cleaned kitchen cupboards in the past. £7 a hour.
Don't be ashamed / embarrassed. I work full time and dh works full time +++. We argue when there is cleaning to do. We both hate it and he thinks i should do it all mummy's boy and I think WE should do it. I refuse to spend 3 hours of my hard earned free time cleaning a house that 2 people live in. I have more things to do with my life - horses, dogs, swimming etc etc

TiredFeet · 10/05/2013 22:02

Waves feel like I'm on the count down with you, I will be grinning from ear to ear when mini waves arrives Grin !

have called a cleaner, waiting for them to call back ,can't wait for my house to be vaguely civilised again, I feel like I am fighting chaos all the time at the moment, and still I have to somehow cook and potty train! (thanks to 'd' h who ignored my request to wait until I was better and told nursery to get started Angry )

it was my birthday today though, and I managed to eat, albeit unhealthily, and ds sang me happy birthday at least 1,000,000 times Smile

hyper can you call on a friend to take the dc out even for an hour or so? I found even someone taking ds to the park for half an hour gave much needed respite!

TiredFeet · 10/05/2013 22:05

DIy I know it is hard, but don't fret about the drugs. companies won't say they are safe but dr's have been prescribing them for years without any known problems. I am on two different ones and couldn't cope without them. i worried a lot more last time but as DS came out healthy and full of fun despite being nourished solely by buccastem and ice lollies in the first trimester I am a lot less worried this time.

YoniIfYouSayPlease · 11/05/2013 00:57

Hey, can I join in? I'm6+4 and I have just been admitted. Currently on my 3rd bag poof fluid via drip and had an injection in the arse. This is brutal

YoniIfYouSayPlease · 11/05/2013 00:58

Poof should be of, stupid phone

Woofers · 11/05/2013 05:03

Poof fluid - I like it. From now on I will refer to IV fluid as poof fluid. I friend and I used to 'poof' or 'pft' at each other when sensible advise was given but perhaps was difficult to put into practice. Ironically she was bulimic.

Anyway. Welcome. May you get a medicine which works and you feel better soon.

Waves. I think about you all the time. I truly wonder how on earth you do it - with children too. I got an email for my 24th week - the advise this week was 'get to know your hospital' - poof!!! Wink

Hyperhelpmum · 11/05/2013 09:03

My mum is now coming at 5 tonight and staying til tomorrow afternoon. Phew. My friends have all been fab helping out but it's saturday and such short notice so no one free today. My BF is away and other BF has football and parties with her kids so note really something my boys can tag along to. Most people have plans on Saturdays involving sport clubs etc so it's tricky. Thinking if I can manage one outing on scooters they can just play and watch a DVD rest of day. They are pretty great and play so nicely. It's just when they get bored/need exercise that its tricky. Also food not great but I can always do a mc Donald's drive through for their lunch, grim but easy for me and I don't need to do anything about the food prep which is what I find so hard. I can't wait for baby waves to arrive and see your baby as the trail blazer for all our babies on this current thread! Keep going waves! You are doing amazingly.

wavesandsmiles · 11/05/2013 10:23

woofers - loving the advice about getting to know the hospital....I now know every single one of the midwives- not just the hospital! Although I am still kind of hoping for a homebirth, but realistically I know that may not be possible.

Welcome to you Yoni - IV fluids might not be fun, but they are pretty magic at fixing the dehydration. Hope you get a medication that works really soon and that you are home before too long.

Hyper glad you have some help sorted,and some plans re food.

I had to be up early to take the DCs swimming. Oh the smells of the pool Sad spent most of the time vomiting in the loos there. But DD got her 50m distance badge, and DS got his 100m so I am really pleased we went.

TiredFeet-I am glad that your DS sang to you so many times. Children really do make birthdays, don't they Smile

YoniIfYouSayPlease · 11/05/2013 10:30

As much as I admire waves, hey story panics Me. I've had 2 arse injections now, the work for about an hour.
Sad Sad Sad

sprite25 · 11/05/2013 11:22

Hello all, haven't been on for a few days, hope your all finding some relief. I managed to do a whole week at work but I'm paying for it now, feeling sicky and drained and very sorry for myself. I was told by my manager that I would get sick pay for the days I wasn't able to go in but despite filling out two sick forms I haven't been paid for it. My manager knows I'm pregnant but on the sick forms I just put nausea/vomiting as the reason I was off and didn't make it clear it was due to a pregnancy reason. Anyway when someone called up our head office about it they gave some bull that they don't have any particular company policy on sick pay and the sick forms are passed to the top manager who decides whether or not you get sick pay, now everyone has said this is a load of rubbish and in my contract it specifically talks about 'the company policy on sick leave and sick pay'. I was just wandering if anyone could offer any advice on this as I know being off for pregnancy stuff isn't supposed to count as normal sick days but I don't know where I stand or what to do? I know this thread isn't about this subject but I'm scared stiff I will end up having more days off because of the sickness and that I will end up in a really difficult situation with money, its making me worry which I cant help thinking isn't going to help me feel any better. To make things worse I have to force myself to get up and dressed for a family birthday get together, although my mum already knows Im really not ready to tell anyone else and know they will be suspicious if Im not around as Ive already used the excuse of being 'unwell' to get out of other things. Im finding all this really difficult to carry on with, like you have to be so so mentally strong to cope with feeling so sick for such a long time, although the cyclizine is helping I still have bad patches and am just so fed up of it all now.

TiredFeet · 11/05/2013 13:55

welcome yoni if that's the right word! hope you are feeling a little better now? it is miserable though.

waves I don't know how you managed the pool!! but I bet they were so so proud of getting their badges!! it is a big thing for them, I still remember getting mine Smile

hyper glad your mum is coming soon. don't feel bad about dvd's and fast food when you need to, its only for a short bit of their life. I have also found doing colouring / sticker books ok, but depends what age yours are.

sprite I don't know what to say but I really feel for you, it is the last thing you need right now. there are some great people on the employment board I have had some great advice from them in the past, maybe post there too? sounds like someone is being a bit nasty Sad but maybe it would help to tell (a few) more people you are pregnant. I know it is n't what we would want but I found it is now a lot easier to ask for help. I hate people knowing when I haven't had scan but it meant I could beg for help instead of trying to pretend I was ok. I get how personal that decision is though.

have somehow managed to bake a birthday cake! ds was insistent I had to have a party so my parents and sister are coming in a bit. don't think I can face eating any but ds will love the candles so it was worth it I think. house is in chaos though and I am beyond caring. hoping my parents will entertain ds a bit while I tidy.

LucindaE · 11/05/2013 16:32

Sorry Everyone in bed myself with migraine.
Yoni Welcome, Sorry you are suffering so early, I hope the fluids have helped. Did you say you'd had other Hypermesis pregnancies? Still a bit vauge, I'll have to check back, but if not most people get relief somewhere between sixteen and twenty weeks, waves has been unlucky in that. Lol about poof fluid Woofers my daughter used to call bowel moments 'poof' when she was little! I couldn't better your post about why they can't say a thing is safe in pregnancy - they won't even say that of cyclazine, though it's been used for about three decades.
Sprite Re the work problems, can you stand having a look at the advice on sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/employment-issues which does go into it and might help you.
Tired I hope you had as good a birthday as you could in the dismal circumstances, sweet of LO singing. Hugs again about OH being a pain and temp or perm separation. You and Waves are being amazing. As others say, it's so hard to make that decision even when well. I so agree with Hyper about cleaning.
Hyper I hope you've managed and your mother is here now. Sorry her partner was being demaning. For sure the garden could have waited and you couldn't!Brave of you to face a MacDonald's 'drive thru' when feeling sick.
Waves Congratulations on LO's swimming medals.Sorry about puking, that chlorine smell is strong enough at the best of times.
DIY I hope it was a one off, as others say don't worry at all about using the meds, there is no way the GP would have prescribed it if there was any risk, and do call back here on the Thread Nobody Wants to Need if you still feel bad.
Tallyra How are things? Good advice as always.
Woofers How are you?
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.
Lucinda
xx

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everythinghippie29 · 11/05/2013 17:04

Really baf few day at 9 + 2. My anti emetics seem to be working less and less and now headaches and enough spit to sink Atlantis have joined the party. Sorry for the moan but foul do with some cheering up rather than unhelful people informing me ' they were sick all pregnancy' need some light at the end of the tunnel! x Sad

TiredFeet · 11/05/2013 19:35

everything I can't guarantee for you but mine has been hideous both times in the early weeks and last time it lifted completely at 12 weeks and this time it improved considerably at eleven although I am still having bad days but I think that is more due to stress in my personal life now

TiredFeet · 11/05/2013 19:37

Ps had a lovely birthday, lay on the sofa while my mum tidied and ds got everyone else to pretend to be octonauts Grin

Woofers · 11/05/2013 20:12

I've been signed off for a month so I am feeling so much happier! Still getting daily morning nausia, but only been sick once since hospital last weekend. No ketones - YAY!!!

I am struggling still with anxiety though. Different thread I'm sure!!

24 weeks now. I have an extra scan on Thursday - I am a bump model for the medical students for u/s training.

LucindaE · 12/05/2013 09:36

Everything Never apologise for moaning, that's what this thread is for! It might be worth asking for different meds? Not sure, though if you've been through a variety already. A lot of people on here are on a cocktail and the babies are fine.
Tiredfeet I am glad to hear that! Hugs.
Woofers I am glad things have improved since last week. That was dramatic and encouraging!
Hope Everyone is doing not too badly today.
Lucinda
xx

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Tallyra · 12/05/2013 10:10

Hi Lucinda, update on me is the appointment I am waiting for turns out to be in the wrong clinic - been referred to fertility rather than miscarriage, but they will see me and then transfer. still got a month to wait though....

LucindaE · 12/05/2013 12:33

Tallyra That is so maddening, for goodness sake, how inefficient.
Hugs. You will get there!
Lucinda
xx

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YoniIfYouSayPlease · 12/05/2013 12:57

This is my first ever pregnancy (and the last Grin ).

I have my first (7 week) scan tomorrow. Hoping everything is ok and there is just the one bean.

TiredFeet · 12/05/2013 13:12

good luck for scan yoni! I am 12 weeks and still waiting for mine. oh and that's what I said about first and last when I was pregnant with Ds. then I got a big shock 8 weeks ago!! I would never have chosen to put myself through it again, and was coming to terms with DS being an only, but now I am through the worst it is wonderful to be rewarded for the suffering with DS excitement. I think he would have been just as happy as an only though, and we could afford to do a lot more than we will be.

woofers a month sounds good Smile time to hopefully feel better by the end!

tallyra how frustrating for you!

YoniIfYouSayPlease · 12/05/2013 15:11

Oh Tiredfeet how lovely.

My mum has just confirmed she had Hyperemesis for 7 months when she was carrying me, and then at 8 months got pre-eclampsia and spent most of the pregnancy in hospital. I hope it doesn't run in the family!

She said when she found out she was having my little brother she cried and booked in for a sterilisation, which she had when he was a few months old but she said he wasn't nearly as bad as she was expecting.

I think I might be having a girl.

Hyperhelpmum · 12/05/2013 16:00

Hi all hope you are coping today. Help! I'm being sick once or twice daily but biggest prob is awful pain in my upper stomach area after I eat, like I have gorged and eaten way too much (not the case!!!! Still not able to eat much) it's so painful and feels like wind or like I need to burp but can't. This lasts into the evening when I get awf reflux most of the night despite gaviscon x lots :(

TiredFeet · 12/05/2013 17:26

yoni I think this will definitely be my last, totally understand your mum!

hyper might be worth a chat to dr? It sounds miserable Sad