Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

We need a new thread.

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

I used to include extracts from MOH's wonderful website
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
but I think that makes this link less visible so am merely putting the link. The information on this site is invaluable for sufferers, with information about medications, coping strategies, hospital admissions, useful links, advice for family members, and much more.

I would like to thank MOH MOP Ovaltine bluebirdsunshine (I think she's changed her nickname) Fluffy, Horsey Kalidasa, Nannyl and Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

Hello girls. Waves has invited me to join you all because I keep winging about how sick I am
I'm 21w+5

Fortunately I've only been admitted once with dehydration so far and that was ms and norovirus combined.
I have sublingual bucastem at the moment, to take when I feel nauseous. It can be day or night, hungry or full, thirsty or not. Cooking smells are bad, as is bending over and carrying things.
It's getting worse with the variability although its defo less frequent - not all day everyday, just half a day alternate days.

I am honestly not enjoying this at all and I will not be having any more.

I will have to go back and see the dr. Mw doesn't really care.

And finally, if anyone says "don't you look well! The sickness must have passed by now" I will vomit on them to prove I don't feel v well!!

Look forwards to picking your brains and hearing your stories too.

Hi woofers glad you found us, even though it is not the thread anyone wants to find themselves on

I had my trial day off hospital today and it's been horrible. I have been sick most of the day, and feel utterly pants now, as nothing has stayed down food or drink wise. At least I know I can be up there tomorrow morning for those wonderful IV fluids and IV ondansetron. So, trying to stay a little positive. In half an hour I am going to bed, and fingers crossed I have a good sleep!

I might have to try cheese on toast since it seems to be having a positive effect for some, but to be honest the thought of it makes me feel sick! Probably because I'm around 24 hours with nothing so pesky ketones are probably on the rise!

Well done tired it's always a relief once day is over and well done eating a pizza. Yes I do sometimes dream of food but that is shortly followed by feeling very sick. I'm getting it badly at bedtime at moment. Horrible when you are trying to sleep. Welcome new girls. Don't be afraid to ask GP for different meds. I tried three before settling on cyclizine and ondansetron. Not perfect as in still feel that seating, toe curling I'm going to puke feeling alot but it has helped with food intake. Well, cheese on toast anyway! You must have ketchup with it waves although writing it now makes me feel v fragile (heave) :( anyone have any drink suggestions? I can't stand anything, water just bearable but not pleasant.

Hi all, sorry if you're feeling crap, and good news for those who have eaten. I used to dream about eating cheese bizarrely. I don't know if you feel you can, but try to get that blood sugar up, it is what finally turned the tide for me with ds2 (with ds1 I was HG all the way through). First the flat coke, then the crisps and finally eating as many high calorie sweet foods as I could. It was so unhealthy but I stopped being sick at about 6 months with him and it probably took 6-8 weeks from sipping/crunching flat coke (I froze it too ) to it going away.
With dd as soon as I felt a bit icky, I would eat, all the high sugary carbohydratey shit in a desperate attempt to not let the sickness spiral. Like all the time. I was sick less than twelve times all through. I did the same with ds 3 & 4 and again no HG.
I don't really know if it helped or whether I got lucky and HG went away, but I posted it because maybe it did, and maybe some one here might find it helpful too.
Hopefully I haven't put anyone off their cheese sandwiches
Have a good night everyone.

welcome woofers (although sorry you need to join us!).

waves I hope you have a better day today

hyperhelp have you tried really chilled drinks? I find it being ice cold really helps.

twit I am starting to wonder if the sugar helps a lot. I seem to feel better if I am consuming a lot of sugary drinks/sweets. My midwife was saying something about they think hyperemesis may be caused by your body being so efficient at directing supplies to the baby that it makes your blood sugar dip really low. Its just a theory, but then the eating sugar would help. I'm trying to get myself to eat more sugar from fruit when I can though, I managed some tinned fruit and a smoothie yesterday. But a lot of the time its just sweets and lucozade

Hello all, just checking in. Hope everyone is feeling slightly better?

Am just on my way to work after having an awful morning of vomiting...you would think I would be past this at 27+4 but unfortunately not. Really wish I could come off the meds but at this point I think I will continue to be on them until labour. Just over 12 weeks and counting to go...

reebok - we will be in a baby/end of HG race soon enough, as I am 26 +3, so just a few days behind you. I feel wobbly and shaky today, looking forward to getting to hospital for IV fluids and meds. Hopefully that will see me through the rest of today and tonight with less vomiting.

I went through a weird stage of REALLY wanting fresh melon. And in terms of drinks, the peach squash that Robinson's do (the barley fruits or something like that) is spot on when it comes to being able to tolerate little sips of things.

I would also like to take this opportunity to rant and say how much I hate the ondansetron-induced constipation.

Woofers Welcome, sorry you are still suffering, I suppose at least you look blooming for people to say that, hope yo can remain out of hospital now until the end.
Reebok How brave of you to go in after such a morning, are you being sick every day? It's too bad it's come back. Hugs.
Twit I so agree about flat coke and crisps and sweet and sugary things. Does anyone fancy soda bread on not so bad days?
My handwriting is so awful I've got down that someone wanted a recommendation about drink, and I can't read who it is! Is it Hyper? Apart from said flat coke, flat Lucozade, the juice of tinned fruit (I suppose it was the sweetness) and oddly enough, Ironbru, though some people find it disgusting. Dr Pepper? Lollies and jelly, too...But I'm always going on about them...People seem to swear by peach squash.

SpriteCan you get more sick leave, you don't sound as if you're up to returning.
wavesandsmiles I hope you feel a bit better today with the IV. It's awful how you start suffering again so quickly without.
Emmylou I so agree with Tired about those kesostix to check up on things.
Someone managed to eat a pizza?! Move ahead four spaces .
Lucinda
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Has any research been done about sugar? it seems to be the one thing everyone has in common when they actually manage to eat after feeling that sick. I definitely found sweet stuff easier, although bizarrely fried egg on toast was another thing I craved when I got well enough to be able to think about it (also probably one of the reasons I put so much weight on after each mc, combined with steroids).

Well, feeling sick as ever. DS1s birthday tomorrow and I can't even wrap presents let alone make him a cake and spoil him rotten. Poor little boy is so distressed by me being ill. He is not sleeping and is shattered. He has ADD and struggles at the best of times but this has really knocked him for six. A friend has kindly made him a cake and his teacher has agreed it can go into school and be given to him in class at break. So with I could go and see look on his face! Sounds silly but I really really miss my children! I know I need to try to eat something, urgh what? Have now lost over a stone in 4 weeks. I look bloody emaciated! Guess I could always have cheese on toast!!!!!!! Thanks for tips about drinks but just cannot face peach squash?!! Xx

Reebok sorry to hear it's coming back :(

How do people find baby-movements affect the sickness. I've been... ok.... ish... but now (as of this week) baby has started to wriggle like all hell and it's made me feel pretty nauseous at times :(

So odd as DS1 was HG pregnancy ( though this one is worse) and I loved crisps and diet coke. This time, cannot touch sweet stuff apart from murray mints and can't touch crisps. The mere mention makes my stomach turn. It's all things cheese for me; cheese on toast, mini cheddars, oh that's it. But still a cheese theme! I am loving ice cold 7up full fat only, diet tastes of yuck! God I feel sick after typing all that food stuff.

Have you tried using a straw? Would that help with getting fluids in you? Or forget thinking about drinks and concentrate on crunching chips of frozen fluids, they might go down a bit better.

Yes, my thinking was that in HG your body goes bonkers and either needs an artificially high blood sugar level or can't handle the baby and you and your blood sugar levels drop if you can figure that out, we'll done.
Anyway this is why I deliberately ate stuff (unhealthy junk) that would replace (or whatever) the blood sugar I needed. I always used to feel sick in the morning when I woke up as a child and up to an adult, and although I really felt like I didn't want to eat, I would always feel better once I had.
So literally every time I felt weak, dizzy,icky etc i ate something.

However none of this is remotely helpful to you if you are here, as I had to start as soon as I knew I was pregnant to stop the spiral. But maybe it will give you hope or ideas when you finally do get some food in you.

There are things I cannot tolerate even now, oranges etc which I loved with ds2 are not allowed in the house because it takes me right back to then.

Hope everyone had a decent day, and here's to a good night

Well I went back to work today, the bus journey there was horrible, I told my boss about being pregnant in case I need more days off and I must say I was alittle disappointed, no congratulations or anything he just asked how far I am and that was it. Anyways, was starving by the time I finished work which I think has set me off again as im currently sitting in the middle of the bed gently rocking like a mad woman with one of the yucky tasting buccastem in my mouth (i can't tell yet it they are working). I just can't wait for this to all stop and im only 7 weeks! :(

Hi Sprite, I'm 10 weeks tomorrow and also groaning in bed. Feel very sad as my great friend just visited and is exactly same stage as me and glowing, off to a spa tomorrow and full of life. I don't feel sad from jealousy as would not wish this on my worst enemy. Just sad ghat I look like a skeletal pale shadow of myself and suddenly seeing the alternative it just feels so so sad and unfair. I'm so tired of feeling ill. Hit a low point again today :( please just stop now HG you win.

Hyperhelpmum you have my sympathy, its hard not to get down feeling like this, I know but find support and help from whoever you can, dont suffer alone. I felt sad and disappointed because I had imagined in my head the happy occasion of telling my mum I was pregnant but ended up blurting it out in a flood of tears cos I felt so ill. Its a shame but in a way it has helped that she knows so I have someone else to talk to when my OH is at work etc.

Hugs to everyone having bad days today, it truly is a traumatic and tough experience. I had slightly better day but struggling again now.

hyper could you plan a treat eg trip out or something with children to look forward to doing with them when you are better? I get trhough my wobbles about ds by thinking of all the trips we will do once I am better, I have trip to peppa pig world and the zoo on my list so far . It is sooo hard seeing it affect them though.

I spoke to my mum about the sugar thing (she's a diabetes nurse ) next time she's here, if I am still ill, she's going to treat me as a research topic and get her glucose monitor out! I might try and persuade her to do some proper research as she used to be a midwife! She suggested eating fruit or something in middle of night to stop blood sugar levels dropping, I will give it a try if I wake

Oh that could be interesting, maybe if it turns out there's something there HG might eventually get seen as almost like an allergic reaction. Ad respected accordingly. Right am really going now, hope you're all ok.

Flo Poor you, I wish I could suggest something - though I felt the movements very early - round fourteen weeks - by the time they became wriggles I was only puking now and then from the residual heartburn. Several women on here have said the same. Are you still battling into work?
Sprite and Hyper Hugs. Sprite can you get sick note renewed, you really shouldn't be working, says mother hen as usual HyperSorry you are in bed, suffering.It is totally unfair.
The sugar and body reacting thing is interesting. I have always thought that hormonal imbalance must play a part, too. A lot of women on here have menstrual problems and migraines (also associated with hormonal imbalance), and miscarriages, too, which in early pregnancy I think are often caused by hormonal imbalance? I have the migraines and had an mmc (and I think several other early mc's without realising) myself.
I had such a dreadful experience with cooked cheese - a pasta bake, avoid that, everyone - that it put me off for a long time, but hearty congratulations to any who can face cheese, it is full of protein, after all, unlike the crisps and the coke (with me it was full sugar coke that helped, as unhealthy as can be).
Hope the new people and everyone is coping. I'm concerned for Room, who was in hospitalhaving contractions, we haven't heard from her
Lucinda
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Morning All. I'm very that I haven't been on and updated. I am home for now and am 29+1 today. I have been left with an 'irritable uterus' after all the contractions I was having in hospital. I had 11 days in hospital and didn't understand why they were so twitchy when the contractions weren't producing a baby. Turns out that I have a 95% chance of having a premmie and an 85% chance of having the baby before 35 weeks

As for the sickness, it's not so good. I'm needing more ondansetron and feel continually grim. I really wanted to be off of it by now with the whole constipation thing but I've ended up having more, not less

Waves and Reebok, I'm with you on being fed up that this sickness is carrying on. I'm in the third trimester now. Surely I've done my time?!

Room Lovely to hear from you, thanks for coming on, and you must be really fed up with both the sickness and the constipation and the anxiety about those statistics. Here's hoping you prove them wrong. For sure, you should be on parole from Hyperemesis by now, it's not fair. I can't believe how ill wavesandsmiles still is, either, and there's a couple of others still quite ill late on. You all deserve angelically behaved babies.
Lucinda
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Ok I get the peach squash thing!!! A friend bought me some and I'm sipping it ice cold through a straw. It is fab! Never dreamed I could eat this! I'm now craving a Milky Way too, massive progress! Poor you room and waves and anyone else beyond 18 weeks (which I consider to be more than enough time puking daily). I'm 10 weeks today and although feel rough indefinitely feel better this week than weeks 5/6/7 . Feeling really happy about DS as he totally accepted no party today and went into school happy as anything with his Scooby Doo I am 5 badge. Aren't children so amazing and resilient. Couldn't love him more.

If it helps at all both ds1&2 were very good babies, and I was HG all the way through with ds1 and to about 6/7 ish months with ds2

I was specifically told to have full sugar coke etc as the diet stuff doesn't have everything you need to help. It also occurred to me that coke and Pepsi were originally made, without the fizz for indigestion or dodgy stomachs, so not so mad after all.

WRT movements, I tried to soothe the baby by rubbinig my stomach where they were (once they were big enough obv) when they got into a wriggly mood say at night . I was lucky that the normal kicks happened to not be a bother, but when ds1 got bigger and did those somersaults I was often sick, but that was in weeks 34 ish onwards I guess. Hopefully you won't be being sick by then

lucinda it might also be a connected to being travels sick, I used to get badly sick in the car as a child. I never had migraines or hormonal stuff, I did have a MMC, but that was my third time (HG), I don't know. I want there to be a connection so we can warn women that they might be a risk for HG, but annoyingly it might be random and bad luck. (Although in my case it might be hereditary)
Maybe we should start looking into it ourselves?

Sorry for the long post, I hope everyone is doing ok today and got something in them and had a decent night's sleep.

DD2 had her fourth birthday while I was in hospital she seemed to tolerate it well enough though. Lots of fuss from other people made up for my inability to be home and making things special myself.

Lucinda, I'm loving the idea of an angelically behaved baby as a reward for a rubbish pregnancy!

Oops x post, yes they are amazing, and I think they understand when we need them to be like that, even if the other adults around them don't. Ad although it seems like it will never end right now, it's actually such a short amount of time in the whole scheme of things, there is plenty of time to be the person you want to be when you're able to.

It's truly amazing when you find that 'thing' isn't it? Just make sure you've got loads in and be prepared to hate it after you've stopped being unwell....