Early scan showed tiny empty sac. Any experience/advice?

[JamesAndTheGiantBanana]

My LMP was 30th august but I think I ov'ed roughly around 18th sept, making me approx 5+3. I've had some light bleeding for about a week. Early scan today showed a tiny (2mm) empty sac in the womb, no visible yolk sac or fetal pole as it's so tiny. The lady wasn't sure what to tell me, other than it was inconclusive. They've done bloods etc and I may need another scan next week. There were mentions of a possible ectopic.

Has anyone had a very early scan and seen an empty sac when there probably should have at least been a yolk sac?

Oh love if they suspect a miscarriage can't they get you in straight away? I have been there and do know how you feel. I was and still am philosophical about it bit it's still hard. Always here to chat of you need to xx

Really sorry james don't know what else I can say, don't want to pretend I know exactly how you feel but I will still keep my fingers crossed for you.

Thanks both, chezzie I just rang the epu and they've rearranged the scan for tomorrow so thanks for the suggestion. At least it'll give us the answer a bit sooner. My dp is a bit more hopeful than I am (having seen the clots etc) so at least it'll make the weekend easier for him rather than waiting and wondering/worrying.

Just want to say good luck for today james will be thinking about you.

Good luck, hope it all goes well for you today xx

Thank you both for asking after me, it's good news actually! I can't believe it.

Copied from my antenatal thread: just had my second scan, she saw a slightly bigger gestational sac and yolk sac, and a tiny fetal pole of 1mm so she couldn't swear to seeing it as it's so small, but the important thing is that she saw the yolk sac, at this stage (6 weeks ish, can't remember how many days exactly) she's booked another scan for 2 weeks and hopes to see a proper heartbeat and everything by then.

She saw no blood in the uterus so for now we are to assume that the bleeding is coming from the cervical erosion. I had no idea one could lead to this much bleeding, sorry for the tmi but it's like the heaviest day of a normal period, all the sodding time sometime with lots of clots. I was so sure I'd lost it but nope, all's fine. There's nothing they can do about the erosion, I'm not bothered though as long as the baby is ok.

Phew!

Oh that's wonderful news! Soooooo pleased for you - was thinking about you today James!! Let's keep fingers crossed for 2 weeks time.
Orange x

Brilliant news. So pleased for you. Is there anything they can do for cervical erosion?

Thanks, no there's nothing to be done for it whilst pregnant as the erosion isn't dangerous but the cauterisation procedure to burn off the cells is (during pg, obviously)

james that is brilliant news am so pleased for you!

Hello all, I'm interested to know whether any of you are getting these very early scans on the NHS, or whether you've had to go private?

I'm at 6 weeks 4 days (second pregnancy, aged 39), & just feeling so incredibly anxious and pessimistic that the pregnancy will last that I'm tempted to pay for a scan at 7 or 8 weeks (the only option in my area at this early stage) just for the reassurance of seeing a heartbeat, or if there's anything wrong, knowing as early as possible, and before we tell any family about the pregnancy. But husband thinks it's an unnecessary expense at a time that we can ill afford it.

Is anyone else going through this anxiety? I just can't seem to get excited about being pregnant, much as we want a second child, since for some reason I just feel it's going to go wrong. I'm also showing so much earlier than last time - I had a tummy by 5 weeks - I don't think I can keep this under wraps until after my 12-week nuchal scan.

Hi I had early scans with both mine on the Nhs but only because I was bleeding. I do believe they will do reassurance scans if you are particularly anxious and it's causing you problems but that's in my area and all areas are different. I think it also depends onthe midwife/Gp who refers you.

Hi Clara, why don't you join us on the june 2013 antenatal thread? I know of at least one lady who is (I think) 40 who shares your worries and is very anxious.

All the scans I got were nhs, they will scan for bleeding or pain, or if you have any other reason to be particularly anxious.

My bleeding isn't slowing at all, I'm quite upset about it actually, it's constant and heavy, I'm struggling to deal with it as it's every single day, not just a few days like a period, and I'm having what I hope is round ligament pain but not sure, it's around the womb area like period pains, and a pulling sensation. Sometimes I feel it in the top of my thighs too.

I'm so tired and upset, and sick of worrying now, I tried my best to rest today but my toddler was bored to tears and I still had to do the school run. The house is a tip and the more I do the more I ache and the heavier the bleeding gets. This is shit.

I don't know if this is any help but hopefully reassuring in some ways - I had IVF and lots of the clinics now will not scan at all until 7 weeks as they were just getting so many cases where they couldn't see anything conclusive any earlier.
Good luck to you all.

Hi James, Yes, I'll find that June 2013 thread and see you there.

I'm sorry to hear about the cervical erosion & bleeding. That must be draining and a worry and a nuisance to say the least. How far are you into your pregnancy? I had a slight problem with that in my last pregnancy (having had cauterisation years ago for the same problem) but luckily it settled pretty quickly. Did the docs offer any hope that the bleeding might subside during your pregnancy, or is it something you've got to live with, in which case I totally agree, that's shit.

I had really bad round ligament pain with pregnancy one, and it scotched all my plans to stay active and continue walking into walk quite early on. I couldn't even easily walk the 15 minutes from bus stop to work without stopping to let the pain subside, so I know a bit of what you're going through. I think it did pass eventually, if that offers any glimmer of hope.

Are you able to get any help with the house and toddler, so you can just get some rest?

Take good care!

James - sorry, going back to the beginning of the thread, I can see you're also about 6-7 weeks. Very good luck at that next scan.

Hi how are you doing now? Just to say I bled like you are describing from about 5 weeks until about 17 weeks then it settled down. Hope yours settles.

Thank you everyone for your messages, Iwillorderthefood that's reassuring, was it a cervical erosion or something else?

Clara my sister is helping when she can, the doctors haven't said that the bleeding will clear up, but equally they haven't said "you're stuck with it now" I think they just don't know. I've tried to take it easy the last two days, I'd say there's a bit less bleeding, but I still have aching pains, nothing severe though. Just twiddling my thumbs waiting for the scan right now!

Update- I lost it today after a few days of period type pains, cramps, backache and finally a sharp unusual pain in my bits. Just thought it might be helpful to someone researching the same symptoms, to know what happened in the end.

Oh James. I am so sorry to hear your news. Look after yourself. You are in my thoughts. Orangeone x

James , so sorry to hear this, and how kind of you to share your experience to help others. Hope you are ok x

james am so so sorry to hear your news. Thinking about you.

Oh love I am so sorry. I hope you and your family are bearing up as well as can be expected. I'm always here to chat if you feel you want to. Have been there myself and understand a little of how it feels. Xx