Very faint BFP at 19dpo - anyone have similar and a good outcome ?...

[gomurray]

I had a Chemical Pregnancy/early MC in June so am now freaking out as yet again this "pregnancy" does not look straightforward. My LP is usually 11 days so am now over a week late. I chart my BBT so I know exactly when I OV'd. I tested at 13dpo and 15dpo but BFN so I called my GP and handed in a FMU sample - she tested it at 18dpo (yesterday) and called me and said that I am definitely PG as she used an "accurate" test. However she did mention that she had to ask someone else to double check so it can't have been the most obvious line.... So this morning I tested using a CB and I got a very very faint line (just like in June). I also did a CBD and it said "pregnant 1-2 weeks". I would have expected it to say 2-3 weeks by now so am not hopeful at the moment. I am definitely "feeling PG" as am very tired, have achy b00bs on and off and waves of nausea. I know what being PG feels like as have a DS and I lost a baby at 20 weeks PG last year.

I am so desperate for this to work out but just have a nagging doubt that if all was well I would have had a strong line by now....

Anyone have any similar stories to share, even if not positive I'd like to hear them - I am trying to be honest with myself as I don't want to get my hopes up yet again only for more disappointment but by the same token I would love to know that it could work out positively.

When can you get a scan? How many weeks and days are you today?

I am so sorry you are going through this.

I have had early miscarriages and one was very similar to what you describe, but it wasn't ectopic. I also have a friend who had an ectopic and she was in absolute agony with cramps. Obviously not everyone is the same though, I know. However, my friend did go on to have a successful pregnancy as soon as she could try again after the ectopic and her little boy is now 2.

I think in your position I would have a private scan. I would also speak to my insurance company about whether you will be or can be covered if you have any complications when away.

Bloody hell, you have been so badly treated. :(
Is there any chance, given that they scanned so early, that the pg could be okay and it was just too small to spot? Don't even know if that can happen. Just hope you're okay.

I am 5+5 today so scan should show something by now. I think consultant thinks I am not as far on as i think based on my hCG levels. There is no dount about my ov date - none.

IawnCont Thanks, I haven't been scanned yet - that is the problem.

midori did your +ve take a long time to appear ? That is the thing that makes me think ectopic - I would love this to be a 'normal' MC.

Holiday is now cancelled, even if I was covered I'd never be able to enjoy it.

Going to try NHS hospital tomorrow and if Iam fobbed off we will go private on Monday. Just hope nothing scary happens between now and then.

What really pisses me off is it is not as if I am just some silly girl self-diagnosing and calling up asking for a scan - I was referred by a GP who thinks it is ectopic and has had another GP check and he agrees with her conclusion. I was very naive when I thought that as soon as a GP even mentioned the word ectopic I would be whisked into hospital for close monitoring just in case - HA HA !

I am absolutely fuming that you have been treated like this. Really angry on your behalf. Please write to the most senior name you can find in the hospital directory and complain. No one should have to go through this.

Yes, it did. I didn't get a positive test (despite testing several times a day ) until a week after my period was due. I'm never late and I ovulate early (positive at CD21 for my last successful pregnancy, which was after my miscarriage). It was very faint and never really got much darker.

I know it is easier said than done, but try not to worry yourself too much. I am so sorry you felt you had to cancel your holiday, although I can see why.

Did they do an internal scan when they scanned you? I've had quite a few early scans and even at 7 weeks or later they often haven't been able to see anything with an abdominal scan.

In fact, sorry, having just read back again, they haven't scanned you at all? Ridiculous of them not to.

In your circumstances I think I'd be tempted to go back and tell them you have got bleeding and cramping and need to be scanned. Is your EPU self referral? Otherwise you can go to A&E. Obviously this is not what someone should normally be doing, but in your circumstances, I think I would.

Oh, and FWIW, I think staff on the EPU's etc just get so used to seeing miscarriages and pregnancy problems they get into the habit of treating it as routine. I know when I had my miscarriage and found out it was definitely a miscarriage I was on my own as my DH was abroad with work and had to wait for hours to see the doctor and was inconsolable, absolutely sobbing and the nurse/midwife just said 'oh, I know it's disappointing'. Hardly disappointing at all, devastating would be more the word, especially considering I'd lost my 24 week twins only a few months before.

I hope you can see someone more understanding.

Morning. Did you sleep at all? Any more spotting? What time will you call the EPU? Really push that two GPs have suspected EP and that they will be liable if they fail to scan you. If you're finding talking to them difficult, get DP to speak. You deserve to be seen. Otherwise tell them you're off to A&E. Good luck

Wow, I'm going through the same thing right now!

I temp as well so know exactly when I OV'd (CD22) and we didn't DTD after that so not other chance at conception. I usually have a 10 - 12 day LP so was expecting AF around CD34. Test on CD36 (14dpo) was negative and finally tested again yesterday at 19dpo (CD 41) and got a very faint BFP. I took another 3 internet cheapie tests and all were very faint BFPs. Today I've taken a CB digital test that confirms the BFP.

My temperatures have have been dodgy as well and just hovering above and below the coverline until yesterday when I had a spike which prompted me to test again. This morning my temperature remained high. I have also had mild but constant cramping on my left side for the past 5 days or so

I really have no idea what it all means and your thread is a bit worrying but I will be watching it closely and crossing my fingers for both of us. For now, I'm going to remain positive, I have never had a BFP before (TTC 1 year) so this is pretty exciting for me even if it ends badly but will make an appointment tomorrow.

Well I called this morning feigning abdominal pain and as soon as she asked me how many Pgs I'd had and whether they all gone to term I broke down - not a cunning ploy, just genuinely upset having to explain about 20wk MC and early MC in June. It did the trick as the lady was so understanding and had me up for scan within an hour. They saw what "could be" a gestational sac in my uterus but also said it was so tiny that it could just be fluid. Then did an internal scan and saw the same. They had a close look at tubes and ovaries and saw nothing untoward, however they explained that given my low hCG levels the 'embryo' may still be too small to be detected so they cannot confidently rule out ectopic.
Everyone, sonographer, staff nurse and gynae dr were lovely and so helpful. They took more bloods so I will get results tomorrow and we will see where to go from there. Dr said that he is not overly concerned about ectopic as not displaying any signs (other than my made up pain on my right side which was a bit embarrassing as sonographer said I'd ovulated from left side - oops !). In all likelihood it is either ectopic or just a 'simple' "non-continuing pregnancy". Anyway, we'll see what tomorrow brings. My best case is that hCG levels plummet and I miscarry spontaneously so there is a chance I can salvage some of my holiday. I know it sounds heartless but I have known from the outset that something is wrong here so I never really got my hopes up properly - I just want it to end so that I can move on. I am hugely relieved to have the possibility of ectopic reduced so am less worried now. Hopefully get some sleep tonight

Medusa I really hope your situation work out better - let me know how you get on. I'd definitely push to have your hCG levels checked to give you peace of mind that everything is ok. What did your CBD say in terms of weeks PG ? If you use the one that tells you the levels are:
1-2 weeks = 25miu to 200miu
2-3 weeks = 201miu to 20000miu
3+ weeks = >20000miu
Good luck

I'm so pleased you've finally been taken seriously and that you were seen quickly. Good news on the EP front but still feel very that you've had to go through all of this after everything else you've been through. I've been checking in constantly. Did they say what tomorrow's bloods may indicate?

Thanks for the information. You seem very sure that your PG is doomed to fail which I can understand with you history. Perhaps it's naive of me but I'm choosing to believe that mine might be just a little slower to implant and start developing. The fact that my temps didn't start rising until yesterday might confirm that. We don't have the CBD with the weeks where I live so can only get the one that tells you whether pregnant or not. On the other hand, I took another internet cheapy this morning and it was even fainter than yesterday which is probably not such a good sign. I'll book an appointment tomorrow and hopefully I'll get in quickly. I will definitely keep checking in on this thread and keep you updated. All we can do is hope.

Moomin if they go up but not by much then it may mean failing PG or ectopic. If they stay the same or go down then MC should be imminent. I appreciate your concern mrs - just hope I can have closure on this soon as am so fed up with it all - the stress and waiting is awful.

Medusa I had not entirely doomed this PG to failure until I saw blood results - hCG levels should rise every 24-72 hours and mine didn't so that was the final confirmation that all not well for me. Your bloods may show otherwise. I had a MC at 5 weeks in June and I had a faint BFP which got fainter, however having googled it many people say that the level of dye is different in each test and even 2 tests in the same packet cannot be accurately compared as a guide as to "how" Pg you are. Unless it is a CBD which measures hCG levels as line is a line. Having said all that I will never trust a faint line again - too many bad experiences now and I like to be honest with myself as I have had my hopes dashed often enough now. Please keep me updated with your progress.

Fingers crossed that today's results give you a clear answer. Hope you got some sleep

Appointment scheduled for Thursday, will keep this thread updated whatever happens.

Thinking about you a lot MissMedusa, hope you're bearing up x

Good luck for Thursday.

Any results yet Murray?

Results are that my hCG levels have dropped which is no surprise given that I started getting cramps this afternoon and light bleeding has started this evening so it is definitely all over. It is the best possible outcome as hopefully we can still go on holiday and it is not ectopic (well I assume not). I have to go back for more bloods tomorrow so hopefully the levels will drop low enough for them to allow me to go on holiday. I will be gutted if after all this I have to hang around to be monitored during my miscarriage. Feeling fine about it all as have the hope that on Thursday I'll be jetting off to Spain for 2 weeks of wine and chilling out with DP and DS

All the best for Thursday Medusa, hope you have the happy outcome you have been waiting for xx

Sorry about that murray. Hope you're feeling okay in yourself, and that you get to go on holiday. Big unmumsnetty hugs x

I'm so sorry to hear that murray. I was really hoping for both of us that you were wrong. :(

I'm sorry, Murray. I hope the next few days pass as smoothly as possible. You know where I am if you need to chat.

How was your hospital visit this morning? How has today been?

Hi Moomin today's blood results have decreased to 106 - not as much as they had hoped. I have been sternly warned about the risks of going on holiday (i.e. if MC causes a sudden heavy bleed) and that I won't be insured as pre-existing condition etc... but to be honest the only thing that is keeping my going is my holiday so we are going. I am getting cramps and still bleeding - nothing worse than a bad period so am quite happy that it is a strightforward MC and am willing to take the chance that if something goes wrong we will have to pay for treatment - financially we can afford it so it is not as if this is a huge risk. I have been frantically packing and getting prepared for hols so barely thought about pains - nothing a paracetamol can't help anyway. I'll try to pop in while on holiday to see how Medusa is doing.
Hope you are well Moomin - you'll have to pop into the zoo for a catch up mrs xx

Glad you're not in too much pain. You've got to do whatever you feel you can. You really deserve this hol and I hope time away keeps you distracted. Try not to overdo it. I'll hunt the zoo down xx