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travelling a distance to early scan alone tomorrow, please hold my hand!

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monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 11:53

Going for a private scan tomorrow but its two trains and a taxi and 30 mins away and have to go alone so that DH can put DS to bed and feeling nervous about the journey, particularly the journey back if it's not good news!

bit of background, sorry, its a long catalogue of errors Sad:

DS wasn't exactly planned, but was wanted, however it was unexpected so we spent the first part of the pregnancy panicing about what we'ld done etc..
This time was planned, we were over the moon with the BFP and were looking forward to fully enjoying the pregnancy this time.

Had some implantation bleeding and R sided pain, which didn't worry me at first, but once it had continued for over a week I went to my GP to chat about how long is normal and when it gets to not normal

GP v worried and sent me straight to EPU, at this point I was about 5 weeks by LMP but 4 weeks by OV

EPU obv didn't scan - too early, did an internal (no sign of MC) and hCG test which was 288, based on that they said I had definitely MCed, no point ruling out ectopic because I had definitely MCed. I asked the EPU doc to clarify if it was low for how pregnant i was by OV or if that was just low by LMP - he was quite dismissive and vague and repeated that I'ld MCed, he said that it should be over 1000 to be viable (which no charts say it should be till 6 weeks!)

Looked up values online, didn't feel that MC could be conclusively diagnosed at that stage based on that hCG result so phoned back the unit. Nurse wasn't very nice:
nurse:"well it sounds low to me"
me: "what SHOULD it be for 4 weeks then?"
nurse: "most we see here are over 600"
me: "and how far along are most people you see?"
nurse " we see people from 6 weeks"
me: "but what should it be at FOUR weeks"
nurse didn't know!

Back to GP, GP agrees that levels are not conclusively a MC for either 4 OR 5 weeks, so exactly a week later had a second blood test. Result was over 5000, GP not all that positive about it, he said that the initial MC diagnosis seems to be wrong, but he was still concerned because the EPU never ruled out ectopic pregnancy the first time. So says he will refer me for dating and viablity scan

hear nothing about scan, ring GP surgery to chase it up, had a difficult occasion to attend that I had to travel to, told GP about it, he advised me to go to a&e when away if symptoms worsten and said he would try and get me a scan around it.

(now 7 weeks by LMP, 6 by OV) EPU ring when away at sensitive occassion, I can't attend as not in the county that day, they had a go at me saying that if it was urgent I'ld be there. Ok, well Im not and this HAS been going on for 2 weeks now and I couldn't get out of this one thing

still occassional R sided pain, one more episode of pink spotting

GP rings, says the EPU says that if it was ectopic it would have ruptured by now so wont re-scan me (but hang on, I'm only SIX WEEKS, it wouldn't necessarily have ruptured by now! even by LMP I'm only 7 weeks, still mightened have ruptured). GP very worried and advises me to see a doc where I am urgently - but I choose to travel home instead, can't afford for DH and DS to stay in hotels indefinitely.

And because the scan request was marked as an urgent ?ectopic, NOT as a dating scan, I can't re-book it, plus I now have no dating scan when my dates are obviously quite an issue in my treatment from HCPs. So gave up! DH very upset and booked me a private scan

So by now, All the joy of the BFP has gone, I've grieved for an MC I haven't had, now feel numb, and dreading the journey alone to the private scan Sad

sorry not sure how I could have made this any shorter!

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monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 11:54

sorry meant to say an HOUR and 30 mins away, nearer private scan place had no availability

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elvislives2012 · 21/05/2012 12:18

Gosh how awful for you. No advice really but plenty of sympathy, Thanks and hand holding. Good luck, you're not alone xxx

minipie · 21/05/2012 12:19

Hi monkey, just wanted to hold your hald and give it a reassuring squeeze.

I wouldn't go by HCG levels too much as they can go up and down all over the place. Spotting can be a bad sign or a sign of nothing at all so please don't read too much into that either (I have had lots of spotting but have had 3 early scans now and all is fine).

At a 6/7 week scan they should be able to get a good picture of whether there is an embryo there and whether it's in the right place and doing ok, so that should give you a clear answer. Really hope it's good news for you tomorrow.

monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 12:27

thank you

Its wierd because I'm not just worried about what if it's bad news, I'm kinda used to the bad news now if that makes sense

I'm also worried about how I will re-bond with the pregnancy if it's good news, because I've already grieved for ths pregnancy, and any time I begin to feel a little positive again my GP brings me back down to the ground with a bump by saying that he's still very worried. I'm worried I'll never get that initial joy back!

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minipie · 21/05/2012 12:34

I know exactly what you mean - I had 2 weeks of happiness until my first bleed at 6 weeks, since then I have not felt able to relax and enjoy being pregnant in case it all goes wrong, even though the scans have shown good results. I don't feel particularly "bonded" as I feel it would be tempting fate iykwim. Hopefully I will get the joy back after the 12 week scan (assuming it's ok...) Really hope you get good news and can relax better than me!

lostlenore · 21/05/2012 12:40

So sorry to hear the stories on here, but try to look at the positives as they come along.

I don't think you will feel the same as when you got your BFP, unfortunately the moment has passed and there is too much gone between. But if this pg is viable and progressing you will feel a different sort of joy (and most likely fear as well, but that is normal).

I personally have not bonded with either of my pregnancies but I know as soon as my DD1 was born it was a completely different feeling and I was over the moon as soon as my labour was (eventually) recognised.

Good luck at the scan, sounds like a mission, but you will either have good news or closure. I sincerely hope that it goes well for you x

monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 13:12

thanks all, minipie how long till your 12 week scan?

I was so determined to have a positive pregnancy this time, last time once I got over the shock/fear I "wasted" the whole experience by fretting about things that hadn't (and didn't) happen yet. Was really looking forward to this second chance to actually ENJOY it unless something actually DID happen.

I am KICKING myself for giving my correct LMP, I wish I had lied and adjusted it to be inline with OV, I think I wouldn't have had such disjointed care and advice if I'ld have done that!

I'm glad the limbo will be over tomorrow, even if the travelling will suck!

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monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 13:14

I'm trying to look up names and post about preggie things to kind of re-connect since the second hCG showed I hadn't actually MCed at that stage, have downloaded loads of pregnancy apps to try and make it real again
but its all a bit.. hollow! I'm kinda faking it!

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minipie · 21/05/2012 13:26

my 12 week scan (actually 11+5) is on Thursday so not long to go! but then, I guess I will still worry until at least the 14th week...

I would say don't try to fake it... it's not going to do any harm if you wrry a bit and don't "connect". I think some people are just worriers (I know I am) and so there will always be that tinge of fear in with the hope. I wish I could be more of a relax-and-enjoy-it type but I know I can't change my nature!

monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 13:34

oh that's good, best of luck for thursday!

The EPU really didn't help, they made me feel like a hysterical mad woman who was insisting I was still pregnant when I wasn't (even though I WAS both still pregnant, and quite calm)

I'm sort of glad the NHS scan hasn't materialised yet and I'm going elsewhere because I've had nothing but negative interractions with the local EPU - even though its a big expense, at least it's different people

The first time I went to the EPU they made me feel stupid for being there that early, when I hadn't self referred or even asked for a referral, I went to my GP for a chat and HE referred me!

then I was hysterical "I'M IN DENIAL ABOUT MY MC" woman

then I was told off for not attending that one day, when it had been going on for 2 weeks and I had discussed going away with my GP, and it was THEM who took a week to contact me about an "emergency" scan.

Plus all the plain wrong advice (wrong hCG ranges, wrongly told an ectopic would have ruptured by 6 weeks)

eugh I'm so angry at the EPU

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minipie · 21/05/2012 13:43

that does sound a bit rubbish. my EPU have been lovely in general, hope you have better luck with the private people.

gothinrecovery · 21/05/2012 13:53

Just wanted to say hope it goes well with the scan. I am also having an early scan soon following some spotting and am pretty scared as the 'reassurance' pg test I took didn't (clearblue digital not showing me as any further along than last time I tested)

Fingers crossed all is well.

ItsMyLastOne · 21/05/2012 14:55

I wish you luck with your scan. And when you're ready I think you should seriously consider a complaint about the way you've been treated by the EPU!

monkeymoma · 21/05/2012 15:02

good luck gothinrecovery x

Itsmylastone, I think I should shouldn't I, 3 people there gave WRONG information, surely the Obs SHO and Womens health ward nurse in charge should know the hCG levels, or if not at least look them up, not guess based on what they thing it SOUNDS like to them!

I don't know who said it would have ruptured by 6/7 weeks, because that is what they told my GP and he told me that that is why they wont re-book me. I think that was someone in the actual ultrasound part but not sure. That was also wrong, you could get to 6/7 weeks and have an ectopic that's not yet ruptured! you don't rule it out just because you are that far along! I am still having one sided pain and had more pink spotting last week

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ItsMyLastOne · 21/05/2012 21:59

I understand how worrying it is. With DD I went to my first scan kind of expecting there to be nothing there. It just seemed like with the huge amount of bleeding I couldn't possibly still be pregnant. Well it turned out she was most definitely there, and I had my dates wrong so was 16+ weeks and they even said she looked like a girl. I have my 12 week scan with this baby on Wednesday so I'm hoping all will be fine again. FWIW I have also had pain in one side in both pregnancies, so even though it's not normal as such, it doesn't have to mean a terrible outcome.

I can't believe how you've been messed around and had people who don't seem to know enough about their own job! I would always rather the say they don't know something and go and find out rather than just telling you a load of rubbish that they think is true. And they really should be taking this ver seriously considering the possible effects of an ectopic pregnancy. Definitely make a complaint!

I'll be thinking about you tomorrow. Good luck. Smile

FoxyRoxy · 22/05/2012 01:22

monkey I remember your first post, I hope all goes well tomorrow :)

monkeymoma · 22/05/2012 23:10

It's all good Grin! FINALLY its confirmed that I am properly pregnant and pregnant in the right place. Saw a heartbeat, am 7 wks (as I thought) not the 8 weeks my LMP put me at.

Actually feel happy about it again Grin, and now when I book in with the MW I have proof that I am a week behind (lots of HCPs don't believe that pregnancy is possible in a 7 day leuteal phase, well this is my second one! Grin)

and as for the doctor who told me I definitely had a MC at 4 weeks..

Due 7th Jan - woo hoo!

gothinrecovery - good luck for your scan!

minipie - hope the 12 week scan goes well

everyone else - thank you for the hand holding Thanks

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BuntyCollocks · 23/05/2012 07:25

Congratulations monkey!

SweetPea3 · 23/05/2012 07:52

That's fantastic news! I have been feeling so angry at the EPU for you! Sit back and try to enjoy now x x x

ItsMyLastOne · 23/05/2012 16:05

That's wonderful news, congratulations. Now I hope you can relax and start to enjoy your little bump. Smile

minipie · 23/05/2012 17:44

Yaaay! and thank you Smile

FoxyRoxy · 23/05/2012 18:21

That's fantastic! Congratulations!

farfallarocks · 24/05/2012 09:10

Great news monkey, please consider writing a formal complaint about your EPU, you may help another woman in a similar situation with less access to information/wherewithall than you. The standard of EPU care across the countries varies hugely and causes so much unnecessary distress.

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