Anyone else ignoring the avoid runny eggs thing?

[yellowflowers]

It's my main craving, soft boiled eggs and fried eggs.

Yes I've eaten soft boiled eggs and scrambled eggs both pregnancies.

When I was pg with first dc nearly 4 years ago I can remember going to buy a "pregnancy book". Several had quite long sections on forbidden food so I got the one that only had a handful the same as NHS guidelines. Much better

I only really avoid mould ripened or unpasturised cheese, raw egg and anything with liver. Plus I've reduced alcohol intake. Everything else is fair game if I feel like eating it.

I have even licked cake mix off my fingers several times

I have however, ignored my cravings for brie and stilton, and only had one half glass of wine the entire pregnancy. Avoiding coffee has not been a problem because it makes me feel sick

Ahhhhhhhhh Pesto

I forgot I had the odd encounter with my mixing spoon too

yellowflowers- think of it as a breakfast fry up in a sandwich

I really don't fancy my pork dinner now.....

I want milks breakfast in a bap

I thought srambled eggs were ok as cooked? Is that not right?
I would much rather have boiled egg and soldiers so will switch to that if there is no difference?!

Fried egg sandwhiches are pointless if the yolk isn't runny. Also ate blue cheese because I craved it sooooooooooooooooo badly.

GizzyBoo, if you are going to do it properly you'd probably need two baps:

Bap 1: 1 fried egg, sliced sausage, mushrooms, fried onion
Bap 2: 1 fried egg, bacon, cooked tomato, hash brown

After that you should be fully satisfied :)

I eat eggs same as I did before, so pretty runny but not raw type thing. I posted a picture the other day on fb and it had my breakfast DP had cooked in with eggs and someone commented about how I should be eating them.
I looked into the risks and for me they are too tiny to be concerned about. I think everyone should try and look for themselves and take a risk level they'd be comfortable with. I only eat lion marked eggs.

I've cut down caffeine quite a bit from what I had before, but it's probably above some peoples ideals still .

I've eaten bits of stuff I should probably avoid, but I can't see how a small amount is going to do much harm.

The only thing I've avoided consistently is rare meat, which has been hard enough tbh... and alcohol, although I've had a couple of small glasses.

I only avoided Pate and Prawns while Pg. Still had runny eggs (lion stamped).

Tbf, I dont eat blue cheese, so that was easy to avoid.

Take it you have never seen still birth or neonatal death caused by listeria?

Advice is based on the best evidence based research. It isn't made up to spoil your fun.

I ate runny eggs all the way through, but I knew personally the chickens they came from, and I know they are healthy corn fed chickens and I was fine x

Lion marked eggs are vaccinated against salmonella

Prawns are fine I think. Unless you are eating them raw? TBH I wouldn't do that pg or not!

ENorma, it's about weighing up risk. There were only 156 cases of listeriosis in the UK in 2010. In a population of 60 million, most of whom will be eating runny eggs and rare meat if they fancy it!

www.nhs.uk/conditions/Listeriosis/Pages/Introduction.aspx

And eggs are not mentioned there as a source of infection. But butter is, and that is not routinely avoided!

I found out I was pregnant whilst in France, their list of "do not eat" is totally different to the UK, so I pretty much ignored both.

ENorma that is entirely unnecessary.

As eurchick says, its about risk assessment. Cut down, or do without, whatever you feel comfortable with.

A runny egg every so often is extremely unlikely to end with a baby in special care....

My gynae said to avoid raw meat and eggs, don't smoke and reduce alcohol intake. So that is what I have done. I have ignored the rest of the no hairdye/depilatory cream/seafood hysteria advice.

eurochick , sorry

The thing that bugs the hell out of me about the food 'rules', is that they have very little relationship to the genuine causes of food poisoning. I care about listeria so you know what I avoided during pregnancy - pre-packed sandwiches, buffets and cheap takeaway. Oh, and bagged lettuce. All far more likely sources of listeria than a lion marked egg.

If I've done the maths correctly eurochick, that makes a 0.00026% chance of getting listeria in a year.

Probably more chance of getting run over by bus.

Especially if I cross the road whilst engrossed in eating a lovely runny egg bap. Yum.

Statistics on listeria in this country show it to be very very rare indeed I believe
Not saying I always take heed of them but I really do think it's rare

Very rare but it does happen and the results can be devastating.

Not a chance I'd take but then I am biased as I've seen the potential effects.

Is it really worth the risk no matter how small? It's only 40 weeks out of a whole lifetime of eating runny eggs.

Is it really worth the risk no matter how small - that's a useless argument. I suspect on the stats you'd be better off not crossing the road. Especially since the vast majority of those listeria cases will not have come from eggs. Who needs evidence based medicine when it comes to scaring pregnant women - not the food rules or What to Expect books.