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Am I just being hormonal, or am I right to still be annoyed by her opinion?

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FreshwaterPlimpies · 17/03/2012 12:04

My close friend's relative recently lost a much wanted and planned baby in the first tri. I am 8 months pregnant with my first baby a little sooner than DH and I had anticipated, but we're both incredibly happy.

Yesterday, I was commiserating with my friend about her relative, when friend basically stated that her relative's grief was so much the greater because the baby was planned, and that if a couple loses an unplanned baby (e.g. like ours,) its just not quite as bad.
I disagreed rather mildly, and changed the subject, but am still quietly seething at this. I can think of few things that would be worse than losing a baby, but having never had a miscarriage, I cannot know or possibly speak for anyone who has.

The more I think about about it, the more I realise that the subtext was that it is unfair that 'more deserving' couples have to deal with miscarriage, whilst those like us feckless types, get to keep our babies.

I feel that perhaps I haven't been showing her how pleased I actually am with the pregnancy. She's had a lot of bad luck lately, and I've felt that being overly gushy about it would just come across as insensitive. She also has terrible baby fever (I've experienced this too, but I have never shared this with her- only with DH), which is another reason I haven't wanted to seem like I'm rubbing it in her face.

Unfortunately, her newfound preoccupation with babies has brought out the expert in her, and I find myself having to defend a lot of our carefully thought-out parenting ideas and plans and hear regularly what she'll be doing with her children.
I think keeping shtum has backfired, but now is hardly a good time to show my happiness as it really is.

Do you think telling her the truth, that we were planning on TTC within a year or two would help with her feelings of the unfairness of it all? I think deep down, she believes we haven't prepared, and I'm feeling quite hormonal defensive atm.

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surfmama · 17/03/2012 12:10

aarr no, it isn't for you to make someone else feel better, you never will. losing a baby must be horrid planned or unplanned I am sure and with no experience I think there is no 'worse' one, all rubbish. You don't have to be anything for anyone else, or to suit anyone else. Just be you, and speak frm your heart.

FreshwaterPlimpies · 17/03/2012 12:35

Thanks surfmama.. I know I'm being silly. It's just a shock to find out that she actually thinks I'm not that bothered about the wee one:)

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surfmama · 17/03/2012 12:39

no sillyness there at all, hormones, and it is a bit rude to insinuate (spelling!) that so i think you need to stay true to yourself and not get caught up in their emotional 'stuff' - congratulations on your pregnancy!

Tamisara · 17/03/2012 12:46

I would ignore her, she clearly DHAC! I lost my second DD at 37 weeks, and it was awful. I've had to develop a hind of a rhino, and even then it gets to me. I know how devastating miscarriages are, and I don't think that they're less than what I've been through, but they're not the same - physically or emotionally. But still, people who've had 8 week miscarriages tell me they know how I feel - which makes me draw breath, and smile sweetly (sorry I'm not minimising their pain, but it isn't the same, they've not delivered their baby, held them, gone in with a swollen belly & come out with it smaller, had to bury their child, see it, hold it etc).

I also get people saying that at least I've still got DD1, so it's not as bad that I lost Tamsin.

What I'm trying to say is people don't have a clue what others are thinking or feeling.

You love your child, you don't need to shout it from the rooftops to prove it. Point scoring is not clever

Emsgale · 17/03/2012 12:47

my sis in law had been ttc for about 2 1/2 years when I feel pregnant with my dd it only took us 6 months but she was v much planned but to spare her feelings and because she always said it was her turn next not ours we lied and said dd was a suprise! I regreted it as she then found out she was pregnant a few days after me also dd and our due date was the same (spooky) but everything then would be "ah well you wouldnt rush your pregnancy if you had tried as long as us or even had to try" "you wouldnt be so keen to put them in a cot if you had struggled to get your dd like we did she is extra precious to us" "and now its "you wouldnt be having another baby yet if you had tried as long as us for dd you would be treasuring every moment not rushing her childhood" im 37 weeks and dd turnt 2 end of feb honestly it drives me mad!!

a baby is just as precious wanted and loved if there planned or not planned!
mc is very very sad for any couple weather it was planned or not!
it is not for you to justify how you came to be pregnant or to try and make her feel better if you start down that road now youll forever leave yourself open to her critisism!!x

FreshwaterPlimpies · 17/03/2012 13:07

Tamisara.. I am so sorry. Stillbirth is a worst nightmare. Cannot imagine it. I know that the further on the pregnancy gets, the higher the stakes seem to get, because the baby is moving/has a definite personality. 37 weeks is just the most horrendous thing- can't believe you had people mentioning DD1 as if it makes it any better.
You are right.. I don't have to prove anything. If we're lucky enough to meet this baby, friend will see that I'm hardly messing about when it comes to how much I love him/her.
Emsgale.. I'm not sure why people need to compare pregnancies.. like you say, they're all precious. It's a similar thing- SIL was wrong to suggest her baby is somehow 'extra' precious, just as an early miscarriage shouldn't be seen as 'extra' devastating in one circumstance more than in another. If friend says anything similar again, I will put her straight, because no-one who's had a mc should have to feel like their grief is inferior to someone who's tried for a baby and had a mc.
Thank you surfmama
Thanks for reading the rant:)

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Sockspence · 17/03/2012 13:35

Some people have a need to grade and compare situations in order to rationalise them.

I remember when I was faced with a potential decision regarding a termination for abnormalities, my mum said that it wasn't such a big deal as DH and I have no fertility issues and could try again with probable success, whereas if it had happened to my sister who had been through IVF she would have understood them making a different decision.

I was upset by her opinion, but I know that it's just how her rather empathy free brain works.

FreshwaterPlimpies · 18/03/2012 08:12

Sockspense.. that is so cold of her. I'm sorry you had to face that decision. I agree.. wish people could move away from making artificial distinctions to try make sense of why these things happen. I can't think it's ever helped anyone.

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