bleeding, blood clots, pain and then confusing scan, help......

[hugahuddy]

i thought i was 11 weeks pg, very excited about scan next week, then started with some dark bleeding, mild period pains and some clotting. the clotting made me think it was a miscarriage for sure. gp brought scan forward to today, i was expecting the worst and have left confused. luckily dh was with me when mw was telling me scan results and he's as confused as me! i thought i'd passed foetus as big clots, however not the case. seems to be sac still in uterus, but they said it looks like 7 weeks development and not sure if it's viable, too young to see heartbeat?? i have to wait a week for another scan. i'm torn between thinking that there might be hope and waiting for more bleeding if it has gone wrong already, any advice?? i feel so lost and confused

hug I am so sorry for what you are going through. Are your cycles regular? Do you have a 28 day cycle? Are you sure of your dates? If there is a chance that your cycles are not of a regular length and your dates could be uncertain, all may be well.

I have had 3 miscarriages. For my third mc, a year ago next week, the baby was behind in development by 2 weeks at my early scan. I didn't really know what it meant after leaving the EPU, but if the baby is developing at a much slower rate than expected, it is not a good sign. I don't want to come across as negative, but it is better to be prepared for what may happen. If you can scale back your activities and get some rest, it would be a good idea.

There is a discussion area on MN for miscarriage/pregnancy loss that you may find helpful.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/miscarriage

oh huga I've no advice as such but feel for you. It sounds as though you're in good hands although must be horrible to have to wait. I have friends that had bleeding and then went on to have healthy babies, obviously the date confusion is hard to understand but fingers crossed. Try to get to the cinema, get out, anything to take your mind of it for a week. Sorry not to be more help, hope you're ok.

oops I've jsut seen LAF's advice and that seems much more sensible.

i don't know about dates, the month we conceived i did 14 days of ovulation sticks and no confirmation which i guess means i ovulated in between tests or a very late ovulation which might explain date confusion. i had prepared myself to be told there was nothing there, i'd assumed if something was there then they would say no heart beat and we mourn and try to think of the future. now scared that i might be facing miscarriage or do i eat well as if i might still be pregnant?
thank you for MN mc discussion area, will definitely go there

Hi hug what happened with me is that the baby was there, growing slowly and the heart beat was slower than it should be (bradycardiac). She grew 1.6mm in one week when she should have been growing 1mm per day.

I hope that you did ovulate later than you thought at 14 days if there was no confirmation, so it all may well turn out for you in the end.

I would continue on eating as if you were pregnant. Some women do have heavy bleeding and clots and they go on to have a healthy baby.

Thinking of you.

thank you LAF
have you had any good news since 3rd mc a year ago??
i have been looking at the mc talk area and it seems my experiences are common symptoms of mc. I just wish i could remember all the information the sonographer said, i remember saying 'it's not good news' then yolk, sac and foetus stuff was a blur, then mw explained it was measuring 7 weeks but not sure if that is sac or foetus, as i'd been thinking it was definitely over i was confused and asked mw is there a chance this might work out ok and she said yes, we're still in a daze....realistically i think it's a no developer or slow developer, in which case we'll hae to learn about D&C or other options, it's a hec or a roller coaster

thankyou, i feel i need that hope in the future and that this not the end of the chances for us to start a family

Hi hug I hope that you don't miscarry and you go on to have your baby. Unfortunately, my EPU gave me the same advice that you received, which is wait and see, and come back in a week's time for another scan. No one can tell you if things will be OK or not, you can really only wait and see. It is incredibly frustrating. I suggest to try and take it easy if you are still bleeding. Your comfort and well being is the most important thing at the moment.

I am currently 25 weeks pregnant, so I have had good news since a year go. I was found to have a blood clotting problem that happens when I become pregnant. I suppose that if the blood is too sticky, the placenta is unable to develop properly and the baby will not survive. I am on 150mg of aspirin daily and things seem to be going OK. If you want to read more about it all, there is a thread about "recurrent miscarriage--testing and beyond" that chronicles our journeys.

As my good friend lunatic said, many women have one miscarriage and go on to have a successful pg there after. The miscarriage boards offer a lot of support on how to cope and what to do about testing. I found it an invaluable resource on how to get through the tough times. Thinking of you.

that's great news, congratulations

i guess they only start to look into tests etc after 3 m/c's from what i've read. i've read that maybe aspirin or progesterone can help. i'm so bad at just waiting, but i think this time has been a reality check, i feel more ready and have readjusted my timescales for starting a family, we were hoping for a bundle in summer next year but it might be anytime next year or year after, best to relax eh?! have time off work, job seems such a minor concern now, mn and your words have kept me sane today, thank you so much

best of luck in your journey, will post results next week.

hug the NHS will only refer you after 3 MCs. You can pay to go private and do this. It is a personal choice, but some people will take this route after 2 MCs. It depends on how long it takes you to conceive and your age as some women don't want to delay.

The statistics are 1 in 4 women will have one miscarriage, 1 in 10 will have 2 miscarriages, and 1 in 100 will have 3 miscarriages. Many women may not even know that they miscarried because they haven't been trying, so this is why the numbers seem so high for one mc.

My GP advised me to wait for 2 months after my first MC before trying again. I became pg on the first attempt after the waiting period. We didn't wait so long to become pg after the second mc, it just happened that I fell pg so fast.

It is hell to go through, but there is hope. Take care.

my word you know your stuff, that's amazing to know though, feels like when you've had one you're more likely to have another but it's actually less likely so that's very positive, thank you!!!

oh that's great to hear, congratulations!

how are you getting on hug ? Has the bleeding stopped?

Hi there, thanks for asking. had a couple of days with just dark red spotting and no pain. i'm starting to get a bit more optomistic which could be dangerous! i was thinking of going for a private scan early next week to see if their kit is better or just whether they can see more, any thoughts?? I read sometimes NHS kit old and i had internal scan as my womb slants back and i'm concerned something might be missed. might be false hope but my nhs scan is on thursday and there is a potential list for d&c on the friday so would be more reassured if i had another scan as a second opinion.

hug if you have a tilted uterus that can often give misleading results re early dates. Plus late ovulation is always a possibility (I ovulated a week late with my son after 2 m/c and had early bleeding as well).

But never give up. I'm 39w6d with number 2, admittedly it is pregnancy no. 10 as the NHS testing found I had a chromosomal translocation and thee's bugger all you can do about that except keep trying until you don't get a duff mix.

All the best :)

Hi, just to give you a message of hope! I had a similar experience re pain and passing clots early on, about 6 weeks-ish. After mild period pain, I suffered a fairly substantial blood-loss including passing multiple clots that ranged from small to I think the biggest one was about the size of a burger; it absolutely terrified the living daylights out of me. However, the pregnancy continued and I had a few epsiodes of very light bleeding then from around 17 weeks began to suffer regular bleeds which were often very heavy indeed, and frequently passed very large clots. No one seems to know why I bled so much, I did have a premature birth in the end, but this was due to my waters breaking early which they think was an entirely independant event from the bleeds. Good luck!

that's interesting regarding tilted womb, that's an amazing story of being persistent in trying, you must have been through a lot. i have to say i'm feeling more stubborn that i will try and try to have a family with my husband, may just have to weather a few storms!

Amymouse, what an amazing story of hope, i have to say i like that story!! i've had some more dark bleeding but no clots and no pain, i am walking on egg shells and doing next to nothing so maybe would have more issues if i lived normally. it's made me think a private scan might be a good thing, i want cutting edge technology and people to be sure about what they're telling me.

perhaps this is super stupid, i did 14 days of ovulation sticks and no smily face so thought i hadn't ovulated that month, then missed period, mw said ovulation is 14 days before period but how do you know when you ovulated when you missed your period as pg??!!! mine are ok but can range a little so feeling even more hope!!! am i missing something about how to calculate dates?!

I started bleeding at about 8 weeks, it was 5 years ago now and I struggle to remember now. I went for an emergency scan and scan person told me it was only measuring 4 weeks. I knew my dates exactly and I knew either she was wrong or something was very wrong.

I was told by doctor that I was miscarrying as I was bleeding far too much, bright red blood. I was given instructions about coming in for a d&c. I asked him if there was anything he could do to be sure that I was not pregnant anymore. He reluctantly agreed to blood tests, 48hours apart. The results were again confusing, they should have double but had only gone up slightly.

Had an agonizing wait for just over a week, still bleeding. Had another scan that showed a perfectly normal foetus at 9 weeks and so many days, spot on for my dates. He's 5 now and kicking a ballon at me right now. So they can get their scan stuff wrong, blood tests don't always show what's really happening, dates may be wrong, lots of women bleed whilst pg for no apparent reason. Fingers crossed for you.

how are you getting on hug did you have a scan today?

Hope your scan went well x