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Chase Farm Hospital, N London

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geranium · 05/01/2006 17:44

Has had a traditionally bad reputation but my knowledge is out of date. If I have to have a c-section (instead of VBAC) I'll be sent to Chase Farm so just wondering if anyone has had any recent experience of the place.

Thanks

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QueenVictoria · 05/01/2006 17:51

Had DS there in April last year, and DD in april 2003. HATE the place.

Sorry, not what you want to hear i guess. Instead of where else though?

QueenVictoria · 05/01/2006 18:02

do you want more details?

HappyMumof2 · 05/01/2006 18:15

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QueenVictoria · 05/01/2006 18:21

Alot of maternity staff inc mws and consultants have a dreadful attitude imo and ime

geranium · 05/01/2006 18:26

Crikey, but yes, would be helpful to have more details. I'm down for Barnet which is where I had ds 2.5 years ago. That seems more stretched in staff terms than last time but still ok-ish. However, for some reason most surgery, including elective c-sections seems to be being moved to Chase Farm. I had heard the MRSA thing as well. Wonder if I can try Edgware if they do suggest elective c-section. Don't know anything about it but could it be worse than Chase Farm?!

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melsy · 05/01/2006 21:22

awful awful awful , the only thing in its defense was a few midwives in the labour ward and the natural birthing unit (rigdeway birthing unit),who were wonderful, but the Hertford ward (pre and post natal)you need nerves of steel to get by in there, its like warzone. Im still freaked by my days in there and its over 2 years ago.

QueenVictoria · 05/01/2006 23:11

DD born in 2003 - waited hours at antenatal appointments. They wouldnt induce until 13 days over despite knowing that i had severe spd (was on crutches) and that the baby was large (had a growth scan done).

Went in for induction but monitoring showed i was in labour already. Was pretty much left too it the whole way through. Didnt have a clue who my first mw was. My labour was managed by them - i was never asked about what they were going to do ARM, syntocin etc. Didnt believe when epidural didnt work. Mw had a row with the consultant over helping and DD was eventually born via ventouse with episiotomy (they didnt tell me they were doing that - they just did it). After the birth DP had to help them clean up the room - they were short staffed - blood and dirty swabs etc. DD was born perfectly healthy thankfully. Then they wanted me out of the poky little room and wanted me to move myself onto the trolley - after having an epidural and SPD! DP lifted me in the end.

Then they left the drip in my arm all night but switched off. I was sent up to the ward at 4am without being given so much as a glass of water after a 16 hour labour where i hadnt been allowed anything to eat or drink. I asked for paracetamol and it took 3 hours for it to arrive.

Was told in the morning i could go home and then when it got to 3pm in the afternoon i was told i couldnt because of ventouse delivery - i had to be monitored. MWs were all miserable and made you feel like you were a total inconvenience if you asked for help. DP paid for me to have a private room the 2nd night. I wasnt checked on once - i may as well have gone home for all they knew. At 10am they said they would discharge me. DP chased them and chased them as it got to 12pm. Eventually someone came at 3pm because i just got up and started to leave.

Mw came the next day but i saw no-one for 10 days after that until the HV came.

With DS, had to attend because of high bp 3 weeks before due date. The day unit was bulgeoning with patients and i spent the first hour and a half standing up waiting. I waited for 5 hours for test results because docs were busy. They would have kept me in except they had no beds (the woman seen immediately before me was kept in with test results that were actually better than mine).

I went two days later and test results were worse. i went at 11am at 1pm they said they were keeping me in. I waited 5 hours for a bed - they finally took me up, lost my notes and i sat a further 3 hours in the visitors room before DP had a go and told them he was taking me home - i wasnt offered food, water, anything. And i was there for high bp ffs. I was in overnight, stats didnt change but they sent me home. This went on for 10 days - kept going up and being kept waiting hours and hours for results.

Finally consultant checked me to see if favourable for induction - i wasnt but his examination was so brutal that i think it helped to start things off. I went back two days later for further tests and was kept in again as they were going to induce me/c section me either way. Went into labour on my own overnight waiting for a space on delivery unit. Went down to labour ward in the morning and they decided to ARM. The mw who was asked to be with me told me she was pissed off because she was supposed to be on ward duty that day and when she turned up they told her she had to spend her shift with me. She said she wanted to go home!

After that though - she was actually really great and i couldnt fault her the whole way through.

Then after DS was born she went off duty and i had this miserable bint who rushed me off to the shower room despite me not having my bag with me. She wouldnt let dp go upstairs and get it as they were waiting for the room. I had no towel. They said they'd get for me but they didnt. I had to dry myself with a shoddy old gown whilst trying to stem the lochia. (sorry if tmi).

Went up to ward and dp had to leave straight away again. The next day they told me again id have to stay in. Was checked very irregularly. Some mws were nice. Some were total b*tches who couldnt care less. Sometimes you got painkillers when you asked, sometimes you didnt.

DS cried every half hour for a feed for the first two days. Eventually a lovely mw said, "if you really need a rest, give us a shout and we'll take him for a while" several hours later i called but the mw had changed to the stroppy one who made me shower with no towel. She told me there was no point in taking ds as he was b/feeding and if he got hungry she'd have to bring him straight back, "oh, unless, you dont mind us giving him formula from a cup ........" I told her id literally just fed him but she said it didnt matter. I cried and cried and cried. He did in fact go to sleep 20 mins later and then slept for a whole 7 hours until a doc came to check him and woke him up ffs. This was how it was the whole time some mws were nice, some were just awful. They insisted on an urgent urine sample at one point, only to come back 2 hours later to say, oh, can you do another one, we accidentally threw it away.

One mw told my dp he had to take dd home one day as she was "coughing on all the babies". I cried then too as i was so lonely with DS and if DD had to go then so did DP. Visiting hours were really poor.

When i was finally discharged after 3 days, i had to take antibiotics as they were adamant i had an infection. Except, they didnt have any in the cupboard and they were too busy to go to pharmacy. I had to wait a further 2 hours and eventually we went to the pharmacy ourselves. Even then they didnt have the full prescription adn DP had to go back to the ward to collect the rest the next day.

Oh, and no-one spotted DS had mild jaundice either.

sorry for the long post. Admittedly, no one died and both me, my DD and DS are all healthy etc but its just an awful awful place and i soooo wish i could have had them at Barnet instead.

HTH

geranium · 06/01/2006 07:22

right. no way am I going to Chase Farm even though this potentially puts the birth at higher risk. What a ridiculous choice.

so sorry to hear about your terrible experience. I wonder if you should give it more publicity given that barnet's poliicy is to move all surgery to Chase Farm now.

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littlemisspiggy · 06/01/2006 13:03

QV - sorry about your experience. I had DS at Barnet in 2002 and while like you I am grateful that we are both alive and healthy I also had a mixed experience with the midwives on duty. It seemed to depend on the shift - some were like dragons ( one said to DP as he tried to see me & DS safely on the ward " you've got your prize now, you can go" and a couple were really nice. So you may or may not have had a better experience.

TeddyRobinson · 06/01/2006 13:06

We've had a shocking experience at Chase Farm - not pg related though. Can't post much as there is an investigation ongoing

I wouldn't go there if I could help it.

QueenVictoria · 06/01/2006 19:12

I grew up with Barnet being my local hospital so i am just familiar with it.

My friend had her DS there, who was born with difficulties and she cannot fault them at all(although they missed that he had an allergy to penicilin but under the circumstances that he was in the nicu that was the least of anyones worries.

Another colleague had their DS there who was born premature at 28 weeks and they too said hospital was great and mws too.

I also think i like Barnet too because its a new hospital with new facilities & equipment.

Chase Farm Maternity had a million pound refurbishment just before DD was born and it doesnt look like anything has been done. The mws at Chase Farm had such old outdated equipment alot of it was left in the corner because it didnt work or they used to "steal" new equipment from one ward then back again as new machines were a rarity ie bp machines (a fair few mws didnt know how to use the electric ones) and CTG (monitoring) machines.

Oh, and one day whilst being monitored in the day unit one of the nastier mws had a go at me for laughing a lot. (my DB was with me to keep me company and he is very funny and was trying to cheer me up).

When we called an ambulance for DD when she had breathing difficulties the ambulance had to take us to Barnet as Chase farm A & E was closed due to a power cut in a ward. I was so glad.

Barnet was fantastic. They gave her a gown, they got all her tests asap. They were sympathetic to me, made sure i was alright too because i had to stay in with her etc.

When we had the same thing 3 weeks later she was taken to Chase Farm instead. It took 3 times longer just to get a doctor to see to her. Nobody listened to what we were saying. No one was interested in us as the parents, the childrens ward was dirty and had very few toys. Nor did they have a supply of the soya milk that DD needed (she had a dairy allergy) we had to bring our own. They had other brands but i just thought as a hospital it was likely they would see children with food and allergies and intolerances. Barnet had stocks of everything.

HappyMumof2 · 06/01/2006 19:17

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geranium · 06/01/2006 19:44

QueenVictoria,

I'm with you on Barnet. I had my son at Barnet 3 years ago, was born there myself as a matter of fact, and am down to go there again with this baby. I'm happy with Barnet.

My problem is that if I need a c-section, Barnet is now only doing emergency c-sections since all surgery (not just gynae) is being moved to Chase Farm. I don't want an elective c-section, hope to have trial of labour. But, Barnet won't induce me due to previous c-section and I have a family history of overdue/late births. My fear is therefore that at 41 weeks Barnet is going to say that my time is up and I'm packed off to Chase Farm.

The more I hear the more worried I get about Chase Farm. I 'm not sure I can take the risk of staying with Barnet in case the 41 week scenario comes true and I end up having to go there for a c-section.

Ridiculous, isn't it, when you have to think about moving from a hospital you are happy with because their partner hospital is a health risk? .

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QueenVictoria · 06/01/2006 22:25

yes, i feel for you geranium, i really do.

I havent intended to scare you, just tell you of my experience. I have to say, on more than one occasion i thought about going to my mum and dads house after going into labour (they live closer to barnet) and calling an ambulance so they would take me to the nearest hospital. A good friend who had her baby at Barnet also offered to "lend" me her address as she lives just around the corner from Barnet so that i could get in there.

Its worth bearing in mind that my mum had all us 4 on time or a few days early. But my DD was born 13 days overdue. however, with my second he was born 5 days early.

You might find things will work out just how you want them.

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