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My waters have broken too early, please help

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BadNails · 12/10/2011 21:31

This probably isn?t the right place to post this, so I apologise, but I need to share this in the hope that someone can either help me or that this helps someone else.

I rarely post, am more of a serial lurker but haven?t name changed even though I could be identified in RL. I?m beyond caring about this now anyway.

On Friday, I had a PROM. I was 22 weeks and 6 days pregnant. I wasn?t near home and was with colleagues so ended up at the nearest hospital, lacking my notes and terrified. I was scanned and examined. Things were not good. The deepest pool they found was 1.8cm. My DD still had a strong heartbeat and my cervix was closed. No one gave me false hope, it was explained that the prognosis for her was poor.

With no contractions kicking in, I was able to go to the hospital I am booked into and my consultant took over. She only saw me on the Monday and everything had been absolutely fine. I remember that she had smiled at me and DP, saying she would not expect to see us again and wished us well for the remainder of our pregnancy.

We were told that the gestation we were at presented a difficulty in that if we had been at 17-19 weeks, they would be recommending a termination and yet if we were at 25-26 weeks, they would be fighting all the way. It was just bad luck apparently.

I had felt some tightenings and so believing that labour would start at any time, they placed us into a special room. I was so dazed that it took me until Monday to realise that this special room was where they were expecting our DD to be born and then die. I?m not sure how I didn?t see this when the sign on the door clearly stated that it was kindly donated by SANDS. We had been told that there was an 80% chance that labour would begin within 48 hours, so I would be monitored during that time for this or any signs of infection setting in.

Two and a half days we stayed in that room, situated at the edge of the delivery suite. The midwives were all truly wonderful. With no contractions, I started to regain some hope. I searched the internet trying to find out more information about loss of amniotic fluid and survival rates. I have been on the SANDS, ARC and Bliss websites. I have read about miracles and tragedies. Me and DP swing between hope and despair, but have remained strong.

But today, I think I can?t cope anymore. We have been back home since Monday evening, waiting for a further scan, to see if the fluid has replenished. I have felt DD kicking away, but usually in the area (she can?t really move now). I have prayed to a god I have neglected since my mother died seven years ago. I am drinking enough water to fill a swimming pool in the hope that this might help (I read it somewhere).

DD1 (4 yrs) lives with her dad and we have maintained the story that I am unwell at the moment which is why she couldn?t come at the weekend. Thankfully, she hasn?t asked any questions about the baby, I am only just keeping it together when I speak to her on the phone.

Apparently AFI should be 10cm or so and below 5cm is critical. So I knew that 1.8cm wasn?t good. Today, I was scanned again by the consultant. DD is well with a strong heartbeat and is cephalic and able to stretch her legs a little. There is no AFI. The consultant couldn?t even give us a deepest pool. She estimated 0.5cm. I think my heart broke when she said that.

A paediatric registrar had already explained the importance of amniotic fluid on lung and limb development. Every piece of information given to us was geared towards the worst case scenario. I don?t think I can even remember everything said to us, now I just keep thinking our DD is going to die.

We were given the option to terminate but I am 24 weeks on Saturday, that?s when it could all change. Steroids, surfactant? We won?t be terminating. At 24 weeks, it?s a 50/50 survival rate and half of the babies who survive will have a major disability. There is no way of knowing what effect her current situation is having on her and that makes me feel so terribly guilty.

I?m scared and angry and I don?t know what to do. Apparently, nothing I do will alter the situation. I am still leaking fluid and I feel despair every time it comes out. I?m sorry if this all sounds self indulgent, but I?m trying to make sense of what has happened.

Thank you if you?ve been able to read all of this.

OP posts:
smokinaces · 28/10/2011 09:24

Fantastic update, thinking of you x

MandaHugNKiss · 28/10/2011 09:31

Thanks for updating, been wishing hard that things are going well (as well as they can, anyway) so it's lovely to hear how pinkynail is doing.

I know two prem babies born/cared for in st.peters (one at 30 week, the other 28) and both have done absolutely brilliantly (and they were boys - tis true girls statisically fare better).

I shall carry on wishing the best for you all - how is MrNails? I think it's easy for us to overlook that you are a little family now and he must be running the gamut of emotions too. Much strength to you all x

KD0706 · 28/10/2011 09:34

Wonderful update badnails
That's fabulous that she was off the ventillator so quickly. She sounds like a wee fighter.

Pleased the expressing is going well. If you have any issues with expressing or transition to BFing (I know that's a while away yet) pop onto the breast & bottle feeding forum, there have been a few wonderfully supportive threads in the past couple of weeks and you would get a lot of help there.

Stick on in there. You and Genevieve are both doing so well.

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 28/10/2011 09:34

Another o e delurking here. Congratulations, and I will be thinking of you all.

oopslateagain · 28/10/2011 09:41

What a lovely update! She sounds like a real fighter. Fingers crossed that she goes from strength to strength.

Woodlands · 28/10/2011 09:53

Great news that she's doing OK - thinking of you.

Poppyjen · 28/10/2011 09:57

Well done pinkynail carry on fighting Grin We're thinking of you and your brave mummy!

TOWISalford · 28/10/2011 09:59

Congratulations Badnails. I had a preemie at 34wks so not quite as wee as yours. I drove myself mad with expressing. If I could offer any advice on that side (hindsight is a wonderful thing) is to not get too worried about 'how much'.

I remember my average being 40/50mls each time I pumped, and that was when I was having a good day. I remember my mum saying 'is that all you got?' one time I was on the way to the hospital with my little bottle of expressed milk and it crushed me.

Your babies stomach is absolutely tiny, so is the amount of milk she needs. Think of the colostrum as being a mini-vaccine, even a drop is the most valuable thing. Little and often is key. I give up quite quickly because I was so demoralised, I wish I carried on with my 40mls! Good luck and stay strong xx

MmeLindor. · 28/10/2011 10:03

Just caught up on your update.

Congratulations on the birth of your daughter, and good luck for the coming weeks and months.

cakeymakey · 28/10/2011 11:14

Sending my best wishes Badnails ....delurking here to send you lots of positive thoughts, and the patience to take things one day at a time and enjoy each special moment. You are a very brave and inspirational lady xx

abeautifulbutterfly · 28/10/2011 11:15

Massive congratulations to a tiny fighter and her brave parents! Wishing you all the strength you need to get through the next weeks and months xx

Lifeissweet · 28/10/2011 11:17

Well done Genevieve! What a strong girl! Like one of the posters above, my DS was ventilated for weeks and came on and off. He also had brain bleeds, jaundice and a hole in his heart - and he was born at 28 weeks, so Genevieve is really doing amazingly well.

I really struggled with expressing at first. I think I was just so tired. I would struggle to squeeze out the tiniest amount. However, once I'd got home and was able to get into more of a routine and relax into it, i produced sooo much that I was taking in enough milk to feed the whole unit! I brought home bags and bags of frozen milk when I brought DS home. I felt like a Dairy cow.

Good luck. Power to the Boobs - and to the lovely strong Genevieve (it's a strong name - I think it's very apt)

banana87 · 28/10/2011 11:38

So pleased she is doing well Badnails GrinGrinGrin

bushymcbush · 28/10/2011 12:32

Your recent update made me cry.

Sooo happy that your beautiful dd is fighting and doing so well xxx

spookshowangellovesit · 28/10/2011 12:47

well done badnails keep up the good work.

mrsrvc · 28/10/2011 13:06

Bad Nails,
Great news that your little lady is still fighting so hard for you! Great news that she is off the ventilator so quickly and only needing 25% oxygen. Also fabulous that she is taking the breast milk so well. Its definitely worth persevering, and like another poster said, not worry about amount. Your milk adjusts to your baby's needs so at the moment you will only need tiny amounts and when you transfer to breast feeding she will increase your flow for you as she needs it.
I'm so happy to hear that things are going well.
x

FoxyRevenger · 28/10/2011 13:06

Goooo...Team BadBails!!

I'm in actual awe of you and your teeny tiny fighter.

LAF77 · 28/10/2011 13:10

Adding my support for you badnails and pinkynail I'm glad Genevive is getting the care she needs and your spirits seem buoyant. I was a preemie baby 34 years ago, on the cusp, of viability back then, of 32 weeks. Here I am now. She's a little fighter if she pulled out her tube. I'll be holding your family in my prayers.

lilibet · 28/10/2011 13:58

Oh Bless, loads of love to all the Nails clan.

WillbeanChariot · 28/10/2011 14:22

Hello BadNails, sounds like she is doing fantastically. My 27 weeker (who was a similar size) was almost term before he graduated to Vapotherm! Just to say though, if she gets tired and needs to go back on the vent or CPAP for a while don't despair, they often go backwards and forwards a bit.

You are doing so well with expressing, it's really normal to get tiny amounts at first and it all counts. Just try to do it as often as you can in the early weeks, it will really help your supply. Fennel tea is supposed to be helpful, so are things with oats in like flapjacks. And lots of skin to skin as soon as Genevieve is ready.

DS had lots of blood transfusions and they all perked him up. He also had problems with his blood clotting and had a number of platelet transfusions to help. Eventually he grew out of it by the time he was term.

Still willing you all on here. Glad you have faith in the staff.

PamBeesly · 28/10/2011 14:33

BadNails you are so strong, I hope Genevieve is as strong as her mother. I will keep you in my thoughts and isn't it brilliant she is loving the breast milk :)

hawthers · 28/10/2011 15:26

hello - so pleased to hear that pinkynails is off hte ventilator so soon - that is really encouraging. And also taking milk so soon - that is also a great indication. DS took 13 weeks to get onto full feeds so i expressed for all that time, every 3 hours day and night - sadly got to be a bit of a pro at it so if you want to pm me at all, please do so (btw he even came home fully breast fed although he later had to go to mixed feeding due to liver and weight issues). so it is really good that G is taking some milk already.

as willbean says blood transfusions are very common but for some reason i hated DS having them to begin with. in the ned we lost count how many he had and it really does seem to perk them up. DS also had numerous x-rays, ultrasounds, cat scans and mri scans which in hindsight weren't that much of a big deal but definitely felt it at the time.

as i'm sure everyone has told you every day counts when it comes to cooking your lo and you have done so well to get to over 25 weeks - will be thinking of you in the coming weeks and keeping everything crossed x

AnaisB · 28/10/2011 15:26

Thank-you for the update. I have been thinking about you and your little pinkynail and hoping that things are going well for you. Sending lots of positive vibes.

katherine2008 · 28/10/2011 15:39

thinking of you and praying for you x

fluffythevampirestabber · 28/10/2011 15:48

Another lurker de-lurking.

Thinking of you all and wishing you and Matilda every strength

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