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My waters have broken too early, please help

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BadNails · 12/10/2011 21:31

This probably isn?t the right place to post this, so I apologise, but I need to share this in the hope that someone can either help me or that this helps someone else.

I rarely post, am more of a serial lurker but haven?t name changed even though I could be identified in RL. I?m beyond caring about this now anyway.

On Friday, I had a PROM. I was 22 weeks and 6 days pregnant. I wasn?t near home and was with colleagues so ended up at the nearest hospital, lacking my notes and terrified. I was scanned and examined. Things were not good. The deepest pool they found was 1.8cm. My DD still had a strong heartbeat and my cervix was closed. No one gave me false hope, it was explained that the prognosis for her was poor.

With no contractions kicking in, I was able to go to the hospital I am booked into and my consultant took over. She only saw me on the Monday and everything had been absolutely fine. I remember that she had smiled at me and DP, saying she would not expect to see us again and wished us well for the remainder of our pregnancy.

We were told that the gestation we were at presented a difficulty in that if we had been at 17-19 weeks, they would be recommending a termination and yet if we were at 25-26 weeks, they would be fighting all the way. It was just bad luck apparently.

I had felt some tightenings and so believing that labour would start at any time, they placed us into a special room. I was so dazed that it took me until Monday to realise that this special room was where they were expecting our DD to be born and then die. I?m not sure how I didn?t see this when the sign on the door clearly stated that it was kindly donated by SANDS. We had been told that there was an 80% chance that labour would begin within 48 hours, so I would be monitored during that time for this or any signs of infection setting in.

Two and a half days we stayed in that room, situated at the edge of the delivery suite. The midwives were all truly wonderful. With no contractions, I started to regain some hope. I searched the internet trying to find out more information about loss of amniotic fluid and survival rates. I have been on the SANDS, ARC and Bliss websites. I have read about miracles and tragedies. Me and DP swing between hope and despair, but have remained strong.

But today, I think I can?t cope anymore. We have been back home since Monday evening, waiting for a further scan, to see if the fluid has replenished. I have felt DD kicking away, but usually in the area (she can?t really move now). I have prayed to a god I have neglected since my mother died seven years ago. I am drinking enough water to fill a swimming pool in the hope that this might help (I read it somewhere).

DD1 (4 yrs) lives with her dad and we have maintained the story that I am unwell at the moment which is why she couldn?t come at the weekend. Thankfully, she hasn?t asked any questions about the baby, I am only just keeping it together when I speak to her on the phone.

Apparently AFI should be 10cm or so and below 5cm is critical. So I knew that 1.8cm wasn?t good. Today, I was scanned again by the consultant. DD is well with a strong heartbeat and is cephalic and able to stretch her legs a little. There is no AFI. The consultant couldn?t even give us a deepest pool. She estimated 0.5cm. I think my heart broke when she said that.

A paediatric registrar had already explained the importance of amniotic fluid on lung and limb development. Every piece of information given to us was geared towards the worst case scenario. I don?t think I can even remember everything said to us, now I just keep thinking our DD is going to die.

We were given the option to terminate but I am 24 weeks on Saturday, that?s when it could all change. Steroids, surfactant? We won?t be terminating. At 24 weeks, it?s a 50/50 survival rate and half of the babies who survive will have a major disability. There is no way of knowing what effect her current situation is having on her and that makes me feel so terribly guilty.

I?m scared and angry and I don?t know what to do. Apparently, nothing I do will alter the situation. I am still leaking fluid and I feel despair every time it comes out. I?m sorry if this all sounds self indulgent, but I?m trying to make sense of what has happened.

Thank you if you?ve been able to read all of this.

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oopslateagain · 21/10/2011 23:03

BadNails, so good to hear that you and DD2 are still going strong.

SouthSea, fab to hear from you - all the nail-biting drama over Pebble seems such a long time ago it's hard to believe it was only 8 months.

TooImmature2BDumbledore · 22/10/2011 08:24

25 weeks today! Woop woop, congratulations!

Gosh, Southsea, was that 8 months ago? It doesn't seem that long to me.

thousandDenier · 22/10/2011 08:27

Big Love for 25 weeks Grin Good work BadNails and BabyNails.

beatrice75 · 22/10/2011 08:44

Thinking of you. 25 weeks is a great achievement. Stay strong :)

BadNails · 22/10/2011 09:27

Good morning! 25 weeks!! Really can't believe I'm here Grin

Hello Southsea, thank you for dropping in. I read about you and your Pebble and it was lovely to read about such a positive outcome in circumstances like these. I'm glad you're both doing well.

Well I've got DD1 coming over soon Smile and all things going to plan she'll be here for at least a few days. She told me she has made me a magazine and the cover is a 'surprise'. And she has also drawn a picture of my wedding where she is holding the baby because the baby is 'zero' and can't walk and I'm holding flowers, so can't carry her! DD1 is very enthusiastic about weddings at the moment as her dad is getting married next year - she has been instructed to drop hints to DP... Grin

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KD0706 · 22/10/2011 09:43

Well done badnails
I bet a fortnight ago there's no way you still expected to be here at 25 weeks.

Hope you have a lovely few days with your DD1.

xx

Shaz2011 · 22/10/2011 09:48

Well done badnails hope the next few days are great 25wks woohooGrin

BOOareHaunting · 22/10/2011 09:55

25 weeks

whoop whoop whoop. Grin Have a great few days with DD1 and just keep reminding DD2 she's not ready to meet her big sister yet!

Southsearocks glad everything worked out for you and pebble. I have to ask if your name relates to location as I grew up there and live just outside now!

screamqueenrollo · 22/10/2011 10:00

just popping in to do a little celebratory 25 week dance!

Enjoy your time with DD1. My DS has abandoned me in favour of the builder (a friend) and the plumber and is asking them LOTS of questions about what they're doing while simultaneously keeping them entertained by pretending he is Dr Who on some wild mission to save Earth, but this means having to explode Mars and get a key (some random old key hanging on the wall) back to the aliens who it belongs to. Apparently they owned our house once and forgot to take this very important key with them. Grin

ncjust4this · 22/10/2011 10:47

25 weeks yeah! Sounds like DD1 isa very lovely happy little girl. Hope you have some. Great time together and babynails behaves and stops worrying you for a bit xxxx

thejaffacakesareonme · 22/10/2011 11:19

Congrats for reaching 25 weeks.

BadNails · 23/10/2011 09:21

25+1 with a new target of 26 weeks. Uphill all the way, so I'll be taking it slow.

I had a bit of an awkward moment yesterday. DP's family came over to collect DD1 and they were all going to have lunch out so didn't stay for long. SIL who is about 22 weeks pregnant popped upstairs, hovered in the doorway, said hi and that she was using the loo and then disappeared. I didn't see her again after that.

I know this is the kind of situation where people don't know what to say, I know that and I have been crap in the past with people going through tough times, I am simply taken aback by how much it hurt. Sad

And I know it must have been hard for her as she is pregnant and probably thought I would find it hard to be around her. What made it hard was the uncomfortable look on her face, not her bump. I just ended up feeling like a leper.

I mentioned it to DP and he said that she is sensitive in a overly analyses her actions and words sort of way. And I don't know her well enough to send her message saying how nice it would have been if she'd stop to chat for a minute. All I would have done is asked her how her pregnancy was going Sad

Does any of that even make sense?

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Ineedcake · 23/10/2011 09:30

Really glad to hear you've reached 25 weeks Badnails, fingers crossed for you that it continues to go OK! x

Ineedcake · 23/10/2011 09:35

Oh sorry didn't refresh before I posted and just saw your new post. Many people don't know how to act in these sorts of situations, I know I don't and feel I get it wrong because I'm trying so hard to act in the right way iyswim. And it's because they care that they worry over how they 'should' act and what to do for the best. x

BOOareHaunting · 23/10/2011 09:54

25+1 Grin

RE SIL she probably felt as sad as you do. It's very difficult to know how people will react and maybe she was worried about you reacting to her iyswim?

An example to explain. My Dsis is PG and due in a week! I have DS (7) who was born by ECS at 41 weeks and my sister was ECS as breach. A few weeks ago at a cousins b'day party a conversation came up about birth and CS. (another cousin had forceps delivery 2 yrs ago). My sister said obviously wanted a natural birth, with no assitance having seen what me and my cousin went through but accepted things don't always go to plan. My cousins GF (whom PROMed early and had a 23 weeker) said she totally didn't want a CS as she felt if LO wasn't to survive she wanted to have the 'birth' iyswim? I just listened and said that tbh by the time I was told I needed a CS I just wanted DS out Grin (in my defence it was 46°c and I was a week overdue and 48 into labour!) My cousins GF looked at me and said 'all right' in a really sarcy tone. Shock I was referring to the labour length but she took immediate defence because she obviously wanted a pregnancy that went to term and thought I was complaining about that. Sad

Sorry to hijack with the story but I wanted to see that maybe she is worried (she is reaching the stage at which you PROMed) and also maybe she worries that you'll act in a negative way to her? Also people feel guilty when things are OK for them when others are suffereing.

I'd say text her and invite her for coffee. Tell her that you and her are going through this pregnancy stuff together (your almost at same stage) and that although yours isn't going as smoothly as you'd had hoped (wins award for understatement of the year Wink) you don't want her to feel she can't share with you or enjoy hers.

Sorry that sounded like I'm preaching (really was just some advice!), but I just think you are going through so much atm, and having perfectly natural feelings and you shouldn't beat yourself up for them.

juneau · 23/10/2011 09:55

Just stumbled upon this thread and wanted to say you'll be in my thoughts and I'll be keeping everything crossed for you and your little DD. You're doing so well and every day gets you both closer to safety. Praying for a good outcome x

Shaz2011 · 23/10/2011 10:44

Not long now badnail counting down the days until you are 26wks Smile wish u all the best as for the most recent comment she may feel awkward knowing her pregnancy is going well & yours has not been smooth sailing invite her over fir a girly day & just say you don't want her to feel awkward about the situation Smile best of luck

BadNails · 23/10/2011 10:55

Ah thank you BOO. Didn't see your post as hijacking or preaching. Your story was very valid. A friend of mine completely misinterpreted something I said after her miscarriage and even though it was a non-pregnancy related comment, after she snapped at me, it made me very concious of every single thing I said to her.

An invitation to coffee is off the cards though as SIL lives about 200 miles away! Having said that, DP (who has just listened to me feeling sorry for myself) has told me that she intends to visit soon, so maybe I'll stop grumbling.

What hasn't really helped is that I'm feeling increasingly uncomfortable - DD moving around a lot and the associated pain with that, ligament pain, pain that I can't attribute to anything but hoping it's not contractions... Confused, lack of sleep, stress. Normally, I'd sort all this with a nice bath!

Without trying to sound all melodramatic, I feel this pregnancy has been taken away from me and that I'm surviving it now. I really try to find the joy in feeling DD kicking about, but if I'm 100% honest with myself, a part of me is having to detach just to keep going.

Oh dear. That sounded really depressing didn't it. I'm just wallowing, ignore me, I'll be okay in a bit

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BOOareHaunting · 23/10/2011 11:12

Actually it sounds a perfectly normal way to feel. Of course your not enjoying the experience and it's OK not to - and there's no law that says you have to enjoy being pregnant even if it all goes smoothly!

BadNails · 23/10/2011 11:16

I suppose Smile I just have a very annoying voice in my head telling me that I should be grateful on some level. Barmy, really, isn't it??

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BadNails · 23/10/2011 11:49

Sorry ineedcake, I missed your post! And thank you Shaz, you're both right. I'll cut SIL some slack :)

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thejaffacakesareonme · 23/10/2011 18:20

Maybe SIL is shy? I often find it difficult to find the right thing to say to people and am so worried about putting my foot in it that I probably don't say enough, and so people probably think I'm stand offish.

blueskydrinking · 23/10/2011 20:05

Hi badnails , I'm another one following your story (and finding myself thinking about you at completely random times, wondering how you're getting on) but who hasn't yet posted for not really knowing what to say.

You're doing so well. Pregnancy is worrying and uncomfortable and emotional even when it's going smoothly... the uncertainty of the situation you're in would be killing me, and that's without the practical difficulties. I reckon there's a lot of us out here counting the days with you and willing you on; you certainly don't come across as melodramatic if that's any comfort!!

KD0706 · 23/10/2011 21:24

Hi badnails
Pleased you're still hanging in there.

Re your sister in law, I'm sure she just felt awkward and didn't know what to say. She probably feels guilty that she hasn't prommed. I know that once I'd had DD a lot of my pregnant friend's didn't quite know what to say to me. They felt guilty about still being pregnant. They felt bad speaking about their pregnancies, speaking about what I'd been through, about DD because she was in hospital and their babies were still safely inside them.
It is a shame that she didn't pop in for a chat but I'm sure there was no malice at all. Do you have her mobile number - could you text her and say hope she had a nice lunch (was it lunch they were there for?) and it was a shame you guys couldn't chat, you hope her pregnancy is going well?

And I know my situation was different, but I was in hospital contracting with DD for five days before I gave birth to her. I was exhausted and in such pain, the contractions getting more frequent and intense. The docs kept saying every day she stayed inside was a bonus. But by about three days in I felt I couldn't cope any more. And I wanted her out. It was in some ways a relief when they said they would take me up to labour ward and that she was definitely on her way. They broke my waters at 7cm but before doing it explained very apologetically that they couldn't keep me going any longer, she was definitely coming. It was as though they expected me to say no don't do it, I want to keep her inside. But actually I was so relieved the end was in sight.

As I say, I know we have different situations and I was five weeks on from where you are now. But it's totally natural to not be grateful to still be pg. it's ok to moan about being uncomfortable.

You are coming across as so positive and full of hope. But it's ok to have your off days and we are all here to hold your hand through those too.

BadNails · 24/10/2011 08:51

Morning! 25+2!! I even have to turn over the page on my temperature chart for today and if I finish this sheet, I'll even have to ask for more Grin who would have thought?

Jaffacake, SIL is a bit shy and so is her DP, so yes that might explain it. She is the member of the family I know the least. A good friend popped in yesterday and said that part of it may be the realisation that pregnancy doesn't always work out the way you hoped and when it happens to someone close, that message is rammed home (think she put it more eloquently than that!) and it made have frightened her a bit.

bluesky thanks for stopping to write and thanks for saying I don't come across as melodramatic Grin

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