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Empty Sac

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cathpalmer · 27/06/2011 17:45

Hi Everyone

Going out of my mind.

Found out I'm pregnant 2 weeks ago.

Since then had a little bleed of brown blood (nothing I was too worried about). I mentioned it to Doctor who recommended that I have an early scan to check that all is ok.
According to LMP I am 7weeks 2 days pregnant, however, my cycle has been very erratic over last few months and has ranged between 33 and 42 days.

At my scan today they could see the gestational sac but nothing inside it. I don't understand the measurements but it said it was 7.2mm. They cannot confirm if the pregnancy is viable and want me to come back in 10 days for another scan to see if baby can be seen,
It also says on the form that I have a tilted womb.
They said that my irregular cycle may mean that I have ovulated later and therefore I am not as far along as I thought.

This also happened with DS 4 years ago. But that time it was different - I went for a scan at only 5 weeks so, obviously not much to see. This time I'm supposed to be further along.

I've done lots of research on internet today and scared myself - seeing things like blighted ovum and missed miscarriage. So worried....

Also I did a Clear Blue Conception indicator test today too, and it said 3+ weeks meaning I am over 5 weeks pregnant.

I don't know what to make of all this. what do you think?

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cathpalmer · 07/07/2011 19:56

Hi
My scan went well, they found little bean and the heartbeat. I'm measuring 7weeks 2days so my ovulation was just out by 10 days. So relieved.
I don't doubt for a second that you will all have the same news!
Good luck and thank you for all your support.
Cath

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willitbe · 07/07/2011 20:44

Cathpalmer - Congratulations, so good to read you had such a positive scan. Hope you enjoy a stress-free and easy pregnancy from now on.

I have a scan on monday, but it is likely to confirm my m/c unfortunately.

Northlondondoulas - how was your scan?

rosalina72 · 08/07/2011 07:49

Oh cathpalmer I'm so happy for you. Hope it's smooth sailing from now on. My scan is in a few hours and I'm so worried. I have no gut feeling with this one. Some days I have a few mild symptoms some days nothing at all. I guess it will be a relief just to find out what's really going on.

rosalina72 · 08/07/2011 12:44

It was bad news for me I'm afraid. Still nothing to see and just an empty sac. It has grown but still nothing inside. Just an empty space. I'm really upset.
Not sure what to do now. Was given the usual choices of waiting for natural miscarriage, the pill or surgical procedure. I should have been 8+2 today :(

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cathpalmer · 08/07/2011 15:54

Rosalina, my friend told me today that she went for a scan at 9 weeks and just an empty sac, went back at 10 and a half weeks and still just the sac. She was given the same option as you and she decided to just let things happen naturally. But when she didn't have a period a month later she went back and there was a baby measuring 8 and a half weeks.
Don't loose hope. Plus, at least this means you're fertile...

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NorthLondonDoulas · 08/07/2011 17:36

Hey ladies...

cathpalmer thats fab news!!! I am so so pleased for you!!!

Well my scan was like yours rosilina an empty looking gestational sac AGAIN for the 3rd tiime! Although the sac has yet again grown, this time the sonographer said that it must be a failed pregnancy and wanted to book me in for a D&C. He may be right, but something is telling me that he is wrong... in one of my previous pregnancies it was mentioned that my uterus was tilted (which i forgot all about) and i have been looking it up and have since discovered that quite often all that can be seen is an empty gestational sac up to 10/11 weeks!!! So i told them i dont want a D&C, i will wait and let things happen naturally in the hope that i do prove him wrong as he said that they wouldn't re-scan me in another week or so. So rosilina if you are not currently showing any signs of miscarriage, (obviously it is your choice) but i would suggest NOT agreeing to the D&C just yet as lots of women have only seen empty sac's and then a few weeks later some have then seen their little bubba!

Again Cath i am so happy for you!.x.x

NorthLondonDoulas · 08/07/2011 17:38

willitbe I just wanted to say thank you for asking! I will keep my fingers crossed for you and your scan - please get us know. Stay strong.x

pinkreindeer · 08/07/2011 17:43

One of my relatives had an empty sac along with a healthy boy in another one! There are so many oddities and variables, but chances are the uniqueness will sort itself out in a positive way. Sending positive thoughts your way.

willitbe · 08/07/2011 21:24

Northlondondoulas - hope that your next scan shows all ok, I think you are right to do what you are doing, I too have read stories on the misdiagnosed miscarriage site that says sometimes babies not seen til after 10 weeks. I know in my heart that my pregnancy is over, the scan on monday is more to confirm that is is all gone rather than anything else. But thank you for keeping fingers crossed for me, just in case it is a miracle!

rosalina - hope that your pregnancy turns out ok too. Don't lose hope yet. As Northlondondoulas says, don't take action yet, read the misdiagnosed miscarriage website to encourage yourself to wait a bit longer. If the sac has increased in size that is a positive thing.

Will be thinking of you both, so please do keep updating here! Thanks

rosalina72 · 09/07/2011 06:18

Thanks ladies for your kind words and encouragement. I've decided I'm going to take it one day at a time. I'm waiting the weekend and see how I feel after that. In my heart I feel like I should wait til the 10/11wk mark just to know I've given it every opportunity to grow and become a baby. But my rational side thinks that I shouldn't hold on to false hope and I'm afraid of perhaps miscarrying with no warning, in a public place or in front of my 3yr old. I don't know what to expect and it scares me.
I was considering getting another scan, maybe privately, just in case. My other 2 scans have both been done at the same hospital by the same machine and team. What do you think?
Good luck on your next scans Northlondondoulas and Willitbe. Willitbe I've actually read about ladies who have bled loads and even passed huge clots and still went on to have a heathy baby so there's always a possibility. I will keep fingers crossed for you!

PoppysMom · 21/07/2011 09:10

Hello Ladies, I wanted to revive this thread to see how the remaining scanees and the ones with not so positive news have gotten on?
I hope you are all well

Gingersnap88 · 21/07/2011 11:47

I'm so pleased to have found this thread, it's made me feel so comforted in the knowledge that so many women go through this difficult time and still go on to have happy pregnancies. I think you're all so brave and I really commend you for sharing these stories.

I went for an early scan last Friday (15/07/11) as I had some spotting. All they could see was an empty sac and I was told that I was either earlier along (3-5 weeks instead of 7, which would make sense seeing as I have irregular periods) or that it was not a viable pregnancy. This of course prompted me to burst into tears! I've got another scan on the 29th and I'm trying to stay as calm as possible but it's so hard. This is my first pregnancy so I'm not really sure what to expect, I just hope the little person in there is fine. It made me feel a lot better reading these, thank you :)

NorthLondonDoulas · 22/07/2011 11:36

Hi again ladies,

Ok poppysmum this is the latest lol... The plot thickens - well i think its safe to say that this is not a normal viable pregnancy! After being told last time that my baby was no longer there, i still felt like the pregnancy was going on so i went back to the hospital 2 days later. They took bloods and said that my hcg levels were through the roof and were now concerned that it was a molar pregnancy! They needed to make sure so 5 days later i went for yet another ultrasound - this sonographer didnt think it was a molar pregnancy but my gestational sac was still growing and was a perfect round shape with a white rim around the edge (it was not like this in previous scans) and there was a lump inside which has also never been there before. When i asked what it was she said that it was probably where the baby had reabsorbed its self. Which doesnt make any sense to me as 5 days earlier there was no baby and no lump which surely there would have been if her explaination is correct? They wanted to again book me in for a D&C straight away but i needed a second opinion on it being a partial molar pregnancy first as they can be quite dangerous so i told them i wanted to wait a bit first. They commented that i was way off miscarrying naturally as my uterus is still very high up and the sac is showing no signs of collapsing. I was bleeding at the time and have been bleeding heavily since but the blood had nothing to do with a miscarriage so i have left it a week to see what this 'lump' is and i am taking myself off to a different hospital this afternoon. Will keep you posted.

rosalina and willitbe how are things going for you both?

Good luck gingersnap88 i shall keep my fingers crossed for you. Let us know on the 29th.

Victoria.x

CBear6 · 22/07/2011 17:03

I hope everything works out for you, NorthLondon. I was told that the white ring is a good thing? When I went for a scan early in this pregnancy they could see a sac with a lump in it and a white ring around it, the sonographer told me they look for the white ring, a sac, and evidence of something in the sac.

Fingers crossed that it could still be good news x

PoppysMom · 25/07/2011 09:01

Good luck Ginger!

NorthLondon I am so sorry you have to go through all this confusion.
I agree seeing something that was not there before sounds odd, but I have no medical training. Did you have the second opinion? I really hope that somebody can finally tell what is actually going on.

I agree with CBear, I had a white ring as well on my ultrasound. I always said it was my baby's halo ;)

Gingersnap88 · 29/07/2011 22:04

Just wanted to say a quick thank you for the kind thoughts and to give a little update.

Went for my second scan today, they found the sac, the yolk, a wee baby and a heartbeat I can't begin to describe how overjoyed we are. I'm measuring at 6+5 instead of 9 so it shows that it certainly is possible! Whilst in the waiting room before the scan, I had my first "proper" round of morning sickness (actually being sick) which I thought was a good sign!

Good luck to everyone going through something similar, it's hard not to worry!

CBear6 · 29/07/2011 22:32

Congratulations Gingersnaps, lovely news :)

How have you been getting on NorthLondon?

PoppysMom · 01/08/2011 08:00

Congratulations Ginger. I am so pleased for you :)
Sorry about the MS though...

NorthLondonDoulas · 03/08/2011 20:04

Oh gingersnaps thats fantastic news!!! Ladies should never give up until they know for sure!

Sadly it is 100% all over for me... the second opinion confirmed the posibility of a molar pregnancy with the ultrasound showing that my uterus was full of blood, clots and cysts. Three weeks of bleeding went past and then finally last night i was admitted to A&E with sevear hemorrhaging. I passed many large to huge clots, and lost approx 3 pints of blood. They wanted to give me a blood transfusion but i felt funny about it, so have just been discharged home on iron supplements and am on strict bed rest.

Please never give up ladies - my story hass been a very rocky road from the start, not many are as complex as mine so i still urge for all to never give up hope until you know for sure!

This pregnancy wasn't planned and im sure one day when the time is right my husband and i will complete our family with another beautiful bubba. Well i guess im available again if any one wants a Doula lol

I keep my fingers crossed for each and every one of you for a happy and healthy pregnancy! Please stay in touch.

Victoria.x.x.x

PoppysMom · 04/08/2011 05:42

Victoria I am so so sorry :(
Please be kind to yourself and rest.

Fingers crossed for a healthy pregnancy when you want it in future x

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