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Discouraging 9 week ultrasound scan

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Catsycat · 21/06/2011 11:06

Hi, Please bear with me everyone - this is my first post on MN and is probably going to be a long one!

I am 9 weeks pregnant with my third child. I have never had any problems with any pregnancy (can't get the babies out by myself, but that's another story). When I found I was pregnant, I had one day being really happy, then went to my doctor to check which of my antihistamines I could carry on taking when pregnant. After advising about the medication, he offered to examine me (just externally) to check I wasn't more pregnant than I thought. I didn't think it could do any harm, as my GP is lovely and I really trust him. On my right side there was some tenderness when he pressed on it (quite hard pressure). He said I should maybe have a scan to rule out an ectopic pregnancy.

I went for the scan (transvaginal) but was only about 5-6 weeks, and they saw a gestational sac but nothing else. They couldn't see my right ovary at all. They said this was normal for the stage of pregnancy.

I went back for a further scan and this time they could see the gestational sac with the external scan, and then did a transvaginal one which showed a yolk sac too, and a small cyst on my right ovary. I was told the cyst is quite common and caused by the egg being releases, and that it will just shrink, also that it could have explained the pain. As they still couldn't see a foetal pole, they said I should come back, but again was told the scan was pretty normal for the stage I was at.

The third scan was yesterday. There was a student doing it, until the qualified sonographer took over. The student said she could see "something" but not clearly enough scanning externally, so said I could go to the toilet then started doing another transvaginal scan. She said "your uterus has dropped right down" and was having loads of trouble finding it, or my ovary either. The other sonographer took over but was also having loads of trouble seeing into my uterus. They had the probe inside me like they were unblocking a sink, and it took about twice as long as the other scans, which had all found the sac really quickly. It was quite painful and I had to arch my back up to aid the view (I have a back problem and this was quite uncomfortable!!). They asked if I had any pain that might have been the cyst popping, as I don't think they could even find the cyst for a while. Eventually they found the cyst, then they asked how far along I was. When I said 9 weeks, they said "this isn't a 9 week pregnancy, it's more like 5.5". They said the foetal pole was visible, but no heartbeat as it was too small at only 4mm. The sonographer said "I'm probably not allowed to say this, but it doesn't look like a viable pregnancy to me". She was really abrupt - no attempt to sound sympathetic at all. The midwife in EPAU said they can't say it isn't viable until it is 6mm and without a heartbeat, but she said although there had been development since the last scan, it hadn't been as much as it should be, and it was possible I would miscarry. I have to go back next wednesday for another scan, after which if there is no developement / heartbeat they will offer me treatment to end the pregnancy. Even my husband, who is usually very decisive and sensible, doesn't really know what to think. He says it isn't over yet, but also that he feels very sad about the scan.

Obviously, I am distraught about this. I've had no pain, no spotting that would have led me to believe there was a problem. I wish I'd never gone for the scans in the first place, as all the waiting is horrible. I just feel sick all the time, and I have CFS/ME which seems to have been aggravated by the stress, so I now ache all over as well and feel awful!

I've seen stories online about the scans being wrong, or thrown off by the shape of your uterus etc, as well as stories where things did go wrong. Has anyone else had a similar experience? I really need some support right now, as my husband works away and has had to go to work this morning, and isn't back till Friday. Every time I look at my two DDs I think how lovely this baby would have been, and I don't know whether to give up hope or not. I'd really appreciate your thoughts.

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stillfrazzled · 23/06/2011 10:26

I had two mcs at a similar stage last year. The loss of hope is the cruellest thing, I'm so sorry.

Your poem has brought tears to my eyes.

goodnightmoon · 23/06/2011 11:57

sorry it didn't work out. your poem is lovely, i still mourn for my lost three.

LadyGoneGaga · 23/06/2011 13:51

So sorry for your loss, Catsy. I lost my baby in Warwick in September so know what you're going through. Your poem is beautiful and made me cry. You will get through this and have every chance of another healthy baby in the future. Take care.

Mama5isalive · 23/06/2011 16:58

monday morning i had my 12 week scan - i was so happy my chance to see my baby for the first time its so real , to be told no heartbeat so baby passed at 9/10 weeks. Shock??????????????????? why?????????????
What was upsetting the most to me and my DH is we was given an app to see the doc on the tuesday to be then put in a waiting room full of pregnant women?????????? waiting to have scans, surely at sad times as these, there should be somewhere else for me to of gone and waited it was the worse 1hr 30 mins since being told in a awful way "no heartbeat, your baby died"
this only happened this week and now after the op hope never to step in a hospital for a good while and will never go back to that hospital if i ever get pregnant again!
Thoughts and prayers go out to all who have had the horrible nightmare of a miscarriage or eptopic - xx

Catsycat · 23/06/2011 17:27

So sorry to hear this Mama5isalive. Obviously, I really sympathise - it's just horrible, and to treat you callously at such a time is unforgiveable. I am lucky that I live equal distance from 3 hospitals - tried out two and found them sorely wanting, but the third (Warwick) is lovely. I hope you have other options for hospitals in future. The hospital where I had DD1 actually gives me panic attacks now, so I would never go there again.

The hospital scanned me again today, and actually the fetal pole is still there, so the scan yesterday was wrong about that. But all the scans agree that the size is way too small, so I don't feel any renewed sense of false hope. Also had a bit of bleeding just before I left for my appointment :( I'm going back next thursday to rescan and advise of options, if I still need it by that point. I will definitely ask to go there straight off in future - they really are fantastic.

Thanks for all the support and lovely comments. It has stopped me going completely mad over the last couple of days, and I really appreciate that you're all out there, willing to offer support and share your experiences.

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Mama5isalive · 25/06/2011 23:06

oh Catsycat - I will no matter how small hold onto hope until its all gone!
I would of loved to off had some hope but because of my dates i knew there was none. I had no pains, no cramps, no bleeding this would of been my 5th pregnancy but only 3 successes - I hold onto to hope that in the near future i will be pregnant again! my tears of sadness are now tears of joy for i hold onto what some women never have 3 beautiful children.
I will pray for you catsycat - that you will get good news or some way of closure for you and yours - hugs from me to you xx

herecomesthsun · 26/06/2011 03:47

had 2 MMCS at 12 weeks, reading your poem with tears in my eyes. Very sorry for your loss.

tiredchocoholic · 26/06/2011 06:53

Dear Catsycat, I have just read this thread from beginning to end and wanted to let you know that you, your family and little F3 are in my thoughts. I am sure there is one more angel in the sky now. Your poem is beautiful, well done for being so brave. Take good care xxxx

Catsycat · 30/06/2011 10:41

Hi, Well, it's finally over for me. Had a very bloody miscarriage (see "So fed up of waiting" on the mc board - probably a bit TMI to put here) and ended up in A&E and with an emergency ERPC yesterday.

Thanks for all the support and good wishes, it has meant an awful lot, especially when my DH has been away at work. I appreciate you sharing your stories - all the best to everyone xx

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NorthLondonDoulas · 30/06/2011 14:52

Oh Catsy...... i am so so sorry! Please keep strong and know that my thoughts are with you and your family. Please feel free to stay in touch if you wish.
Victoria.x

Catsycat · 30/06/2011 15:44

Thanks Victoria. Thinking of you too - is your scan next week?

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Mama5isalive · 30/06/2011 18:55

OHHH im so so very sorry that this is the end for your lil bean!
i cant imagine the pain your going through. Be kind to yourself and focus on the future and hold onto the hope! all my luv - mama5 xxxx

NorthLondonDoulas · 01/07/2011 00:44

Thank you, yes it is... on wednesday. Please stay strong, you are totally amazing for the way you are copeing.x

Catsycat · 06/07/2011 15:42

Hi Victoria, I wondered if you have any news? Hoping it went well. Thanks for your last message. Angela x

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NorthLondonDoulas · 07/07/2011 16:54

Hi Angela,

Oh bless you for remembering! Yes had the scan yesterday not great news really... again it looked like an empty sac! The gestational sac has grown however and the Dr wanted wanted to book me in there and then for a D&C. I nodded my head to everything he said, but refused the D&C saying that i would prefer things to happen naturally. I may be slightly delusional but i still feel pregnant so im not making any decisions until i know 100% for sure. I say this because in one of my previous pregnancies it was mentioned to me that i have a tilted uterus and from what i was reading yesterday some people who have this cant see any thing other than an empty sac sometimes up to 11 weeks! If the Dr is correct then there is nothing i can do other than let nature take its course but like most women i will still be holding on to that small ray of hope until im proven wrong! Thank you so much for asking. I hope you are ok.x.x

spookshowangel · 07/07/2011 18:13

please be very careful northlondon my situation was a little different in that my pregnancy continued to 12 wks when the baby had died at 6wks they offered me a d and c and like you a refused. i couldnt see how i could go to sleep pregnant and wake up not, i wanted it to happen naturally and was holding out some little hope they might be wrong. i haemorrhaged and lost four and a half pints of blood before they got me in to surgery and nearly died. it would be horrible if any thing like that happened to you.

Catsycat · 07/07/2011 22:19

Hi Victoria, I'm so sorry you didn't have better news yesterday. I totally understand the hope you feel. I didn't want to do anything until I felt everything was certain (as you know, in the end it was out of my hands anyway), but the waiting is very hard, isn't it? Will they rescan you at all? Stay strong and take care of yourself. I'm here if you want to talk. xx

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