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Doubting my choice now, please reassure me[sad]

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GUILTYandASHAMED · 16/11/2005 12:59

I am half way through my pregnancy with my second child, and I am starting to wonder if I want this baby at all. I feel so guilty for feeling like this, but my life is a mess at the moment.

I am so depressed, and I hate my partner and wish he would leave, and I can hardly deal with the child I have, I hate my job so much I cry before I go to work, and my partner won't give me a penny towards things for the baby.

I can't help thinking that it isn't fair on anyone, least of all the baby, to bring it into such a hideous life.

the thing that makes me most ashamed is that I don't feel anything for the baby inside me. I just resent it for making me feel sad and ill and taking my energy away from my real child, the one that's here. I don't hate the baby, I will care for it, and try to breast feed it, I eat well and have stoped smoking, but why do I feel so... empty? I hardly feel pregnant at all. I'm not broody. It's like it's not mine.

I am a regular, and I know a lot of you don't like name cahnges, but this is such an awful thing to say, I don't want people to see my name on the board and think "There's such-and-such, the one who hates her unborn child, the cow".

I feel so guilty, because it was dp who wanted this baby more that anything, and I should have known him well enough by now to know he would show no interest in it, and i should have stuck with one child that I know I love.

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Enid · 16/11/2005 13:03

Sorry no advice but just to say how sorry I am your feel this bad. I know there will be lots of wiser mumsnetters that will give you great advice. if its any tiny consolation I am also pg and certainly have not bonded, indeed I rarely think about it and am always shocked in RL when people ask me how it is.

It is draining and horrible being pg esp with another child to care for. Just take comfort in the fact that you love your first child very much, so you will love this one just as much when it is born.

Good luck.

throckenholt · 16/11/2005 13:07

it sounds like you have got depression - aparently is common pre birth but not mentioned much.

Go and talk to your gp and see if they can help.

Also - can you work things out with your partner - maybe through relate or something. Do you hate him because you feel depressed or is it because you don't think your relationship is going anywhere ?

dejinglejags · 16/11/2005 13:07

You have nothing to be ashamed about! Life sounds pretty sh*te for you right now so I don't blame you for feeling down.

I would bet my left arm that once your baby is born you absolutely will love and cherish him/her.

Regarding your partner, this is something you can sort out now (although sometimes when pregnant and hormonal things seem worse than they are).

I am not sure what else to say - except hang in there, you will be a great mum to your new baby and that this too shall pass.

motherinferior · 16/11/2005 13:08

Please please please stop feeling guilty. Please. You are feeling something at the moment - I felt a lot like you through a lot of my first pregnancy, if that helps at all - which as Enid says does not mean that you will not love the baby when it's born.

The job situation sounds vile. It also sounds as if in practical terms you would be better off thinking 'I'm off on maternity leave soon' rather than changing (which is what I would usually suggest). So does the partner situation. I'm trying to think of constructive suggestions re him but I do also think that at the moment you need to feel that it's OK to feel the way you do, if that makes sense.

GREATauntymandy · 16/11/2005 13:10

Dont feel guilty or ashamed. You have done a positive thing and admitted you feel this way. Also you are pg so eveything seems worse. You are down and tired and in a horrid situation.
Face one thing at a time.
Talk to DP if you cant see a life together then do something, dont worry you will manage.
Once you have the baby you willhopefully feel differently towards it.
You may need to talk to someone

serenity · 16/11/2005 13:10

It sounds like the pg has become the focus for all the crappy things going on in your life right now. It's understandable that with all the burdens you currently have, the prospect of another responsibility is hard to bear. I really think you should go and see your GP or someone other neutral party to try and get things back into balance.

chipkid · 16/11/2005 13:12

I am with throckenholt, have two friends who suffer very badly from pre natal depression-it is very common-but because there is no tiny baby to worry about as with post natal depression, it seems of less concern to the health professionals.
Go and see your gp-if thais is what it is I can assure you that both of my friends instantly fell in love with their offspring despite their prior negative feelings-
good luck xxx

chipkid · 16/11/2005 13:14

-both of my friends incidentally were put in touch with a counsellor when they sought help and both said that it made such a difference to them. Hope this helps

GUILTYandASHAMED · 16/11/2005 13:23

I have talked to dp, and told him if I still feel this way when the baby is one I want him to leave. I reason that that should give me time to get my act together.

I think I am depressed. I started a course of prozac a month before I conceived this baby, but was scared to carry on with it. I don't even like taking paracetamol when pregnant, but I had pnd with ds and can see me going much the same way this time. i recall I hated dp last time as well, and while I had pnd. He is very hard to live with, but for some reason when I am pregnant I hate him entirely.

he sodded off to bed at 7pm last night, leaving me to bath ds, clear up, wash up, get ds to bed and sit on my own all night.

I've got my 20 week scan tomorrow, and to my shame I am not remotely excited. I have to go on my own anyway, so there is nobody to get excited with when I get there.

I am not usually such a moping misery, but it has somehow, without me realising (how?) got to the point where I cry every single day. I could cry now. My job is both stressful and low paid and I don't see how I'm going to get through this evening at work without crying.

Thanks, though, for all your support guys. I am quite a regular poster, but have not been on much lately. I seem to have lost all my energy and motivation. I am scared to tell the midwives tis in case they scrutinise me like last time. They seemed convinced that at some point I would start abusing the baby. I don't want SS round at my house. It would make me feel even more ashamed.

God, sorry. I am rambling on.

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ninah · 16/11/2005 13:32

hello GaA first of all please don't feel guilty OR ashamed, sounds like you have a lot on your plate, enough to make anyone feel sad and fed up. I would suggest putting off any major decisions/upheavals in life until after s/he arrives, I know that must seem like forever but as you know your feelings about a lot of things become clearer once you have an actual rather potential child to deal with. Agree it is much harder when you already have a child to care for when preg. Good luck with your scan fwiw I felt just the same about mine, could not get excited in the least and whatever probs I have with p (quite substanial ones at present) feel more insurmountable when pregnant. Do you find out sex tomorrow? it helped me to know this and focus on the person joining our family, not always poss tho. Agree with counting down to mat leave, one thing this gives is a breathing space of sorts to think about the next stage.

Rhubarb · 16/11/2005 20:40

G&A, I've just been alerted to this thread, and I'm glad I was.

Let me tell you a little about what happened to me. I'd just gotten married, the world was my oyster, I'd finished my degree and we were going to go travelling, perhaps living in different countries, we could do what the hell we wanted to! Just 3 months later, due to a single, single accident, I found myself pregnant. I cannot describe to you the horror I felt! I did a lot of soul-searching. I didn't want the baby, yet I knew I couldn't go ahead with an abortion, the only way forward seemed to be adoption. Yet my dh wouldn't hear of this.

My life seemed to be taken out of my hands. Before I knew it we were getting a mortgage and buying a house, something I never wanted to do but found myself just going along with it. I felt isolated from my friends, who now looked upon me as 'different' as none of them were even married let alone with children. I knew nothing of children, neither did I particularly want to. I found myself getting more and more depressed. I would shut myself off from family and friends, I couldn't talk to dh about how I felt as I knew it made him angry and upset. I found myself loathing the baby, and then I had this tremendous guilt inside me about feeling this way towards the baby inside me. I thought I would make a terrible mother, I was already hating my child and it wasn't even born! All the more reason, in my eyes, to give the baby to a family who did want it.

I tried to get help for the way I felt. The doctor asked me if I wanted an abortion, I said no, so he just told me that it was my hormones and that I'd get over it. A work colleague who did have kids seemed to be a better person to talk to, but she just told me that if I felt this way I should have had an abortion. i became increasingly confused, unhappy and depressed.

Because I thought I was such a bad person, and because of all the turmoil inside me that had no release, I began to harm myself. I would thump my thighs until they left bruises, I would scratch my arms until they bled. I began to have delusions about this time. I honestly thought that everything that was happening to me was because I was possessed, and the baby inside me was in fact a demon. So one night, when dh was out, I thought I heard voices, I thought I felt a prescence in the house and I could have sworn I saw faces pressed up against the glass of the back door. Somehow I thought that if I cut the baby out, all this would stop. I went for the knives, but took a good glug of wine on my way past. Perhaps it was this that actually saved me. I suddenly realised that I needed urgent help, so I phoned NHS Direct (the number was stuck on the phone so it was the first thing I saw!). I wasn't coherent, I remember telling him that I had really bad hayfever and couldn't take anything for it. Luckily the guy sussed that something was terribly wrong and he sent an ambulance.

I was assessed by various psychologists and psychatrists and they concluded that I had pre-natal depression. I gave birth soon after to a beautiful baby girl, I was numb that I had given birth at all! The thing that helped me the most was being referred to a Community Psychiatric Nurse, just being able to pour all my feelings out to someone really helped! She encouraged me to write everything down and hand it to her every session.

I got pregnant again, and the same thing started happening. Luckily this time the relevant people were forewarned and I got help very quickly.

You are not alone and you are not a bad person. Depression is a disease and it needs treatment, just as any other illness does. Please CAT me if you need more help. I'm a good listener!

Rhubarb · 16/11/2005 20:44

BTW, SS were alerted to my case with the first pregnancy, they gave dh a hard time I can tell you! They were with me on the adoption front, they thought I would not be a fit mother either, luckily for me I had people who believed in me.

I used to lie in bed for hours just crying and going over and over things. No matter how hard it is, you have to drag yourself up and get out there. Make a tape of all your favourite uplifting songs, each morning play them as you have your breakfast, it puts you in a good mood before you start your day. Hold onto the good things that happen and write them down, it's easy to lose track of the good times because the bad times seem endless, but they're not. You will not feel this way forever, there is an end to this, you just have to work your way towards that.

flamesparrow · 16/11/2005 20:46

G&A - I have ante-natal depression now (not to Rhubarb's extent). Please please tell your midwife/GP how you are feeling - they can help you.

There is an antenatal depression support thread in antenatal groups.

Please CAT me if you just want to talk.

xxxx

Rhubarb · 16/11/2005 21:04

Please get back to us on this! I hate not knowing how someone is doing in these situations!

pussycatmomma · 16/11/2005 21:25

Rhub..i have just read this thread and although i cant really comment on G&A situation, i just wondered if you were still self-harming? sorry if too personal, but i am going through alot atm and have started s/h again after being free of it for a couple of years...just wondered if there is light at the end of the tunnel for any of us? ((((hugs))))) to you

Rhubarb · 16/11/2005 21:31

I have stopped yes. Every time I feel stressed though, the urge does sometimes come back. But the problem with me was hormonal. When I was on the Pill I used to self-harm too, just a couple of days before my period was due. When I stopped taking the Pill, the anger and depression subsided, but that's how I came to be pregnant!

There are also underlying issues for me, but I'm very frank and honest about everything that has happened to me and I think that helps. I no longer bottle things up. Dh thinks that I'm too open now, but I'd rather be this way than who I was before.

Hope you manage to get your problem sorted!

pussycatmomma · 16/11/2005 21:36

thankyou rhub....

Rhubarb · 16/11/2005 21:37

Hey, CAT me if you want to.

nhynes13 · 16/11/2005 23:12

I feel really bad for you, when i first found out i was preg i had my doubts to i think its only natural to an extent. im only 20 and at university so things r tough, the worse thing is when i go 2 university people who dont kno me actually laugh in my face simply because im expecting! It's really hard but i think you sound like u are a bit depressed and think that if you keep it all to urself things will get worse and worse, its easy to think that you hate your baby maybe bcos ur unhappy with other aspects of life?

flamesparrow · 17/11/2005 15:15

Where are you? Is everything ok? I'm worrying about your quietness now.

GUILTYandASHAMED · 17/11/2005 22:48

sorry guys, didn't mean to worry you. I feel much better today, partner being a knob though. I honestly think I am going to end up throwing him out when the baby is one. I find it very hard to love him atm. he isn't very lovable.

my mood is so up and down, I am ok at the moment, and have had my scan so now know the baby's sex, which has made it a real baby to me, IYSWIM

thanks for all your support

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