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Private Maternity Healthcare in the UK

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LaraCameron · 16/05/2011 14:13

Hi ladies!
Im am very curious to know how does one go about getting private care for childbirth in the UK outside London? I know there are plenty of hospitals in London but what about outside London?
Does anyone have any experience with this in any city( not London)?
The trouble is that I have very severe tokophobia and when I give birth it will have to be by c section.
I have recieved mixed answers about whether or not this is possible on the NHS. I would be very willing to go private, only Im not sure where in Uk hubby will be transfered. Can I possibly land up in a place where private healthcare is not available? Or is it available everywhere?

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otchayaniye · 18/05/2011 20:53

Hi LaraCameron. Please don't get the impression that these NHS doctors (and they are the same doctors and surgeons in many cases as work privately) are out to rob you of choice, or force you to do things you don't want. They naturally want to steer you away from something perhaps not medically necessary that's part of the Hippocratic oath and that is invasive and can have complications (while rare, they can be severe). Plus some trusts so (and should) have an eye on runaway costs.

I think you are naturally seeing things through the prism of your tokophobia. Believe me, I've been there too. That said, I think you should talk to someone about your feelings as it may actually, counter-intuitively, give you more options and more of a feeling of control over the situation. By all means, still get your section, but

I never got around to doing this myself. I should have. Now, having had a child and gone through the recovery and breastfed for years I feel less 'scared' about my body and would be prepared to give birth naturally, I'd still 'prefer' not to, and for medical reasons I will opt for a second.

Can I give you some things to consider. In no particular order:

Your insurance may not cover it. My insurance in Asia, which was bells and whistles, would not cover a section for non-medical reasons, EVEN tokophobia. I had a long and rather upsetting-at-the-time discussion about it. My current health insurance here won't cover a section privately for non-medical reasons. And this is full-on, comprehensive Bupa stuff.

Your doctor whether private or NHS may try to steer you to a natural birth despite your tokophobia. I'm not talking 'force', I'm talking 'steer'. Mine in Asia certainly did.

If you have a planned section this can be 10-14 days before the EDD. However, depending on certain factors if the EDD is off a bit then you could end up potentially giving birth about 3 weeks earlier. Now, in and of itself, this is usually fine, but that's why doctors get a bit antsy. They wouldn't go out of their way to put you and a baby in this position for no medical reason. Early babies can have problems, lower birth weight, increased breathing problems and be trickier to breastfeed. That said, my baby was born at 35/36 weeks and was fine. No time in special care, easy to feed, but had to spend time under lights for jaundice and she was on the tiddly side (5lbs)

A planned section plus ante-natal care and after-care can cost 10-30 thousand pounds. Mine in Asia cost the equivalent as in the UK (roughly) and cost about 20k.

You may have to give birth naturally anyway. I don't say this to fuel your anxiety and phobia, but it could happen (and has happened to two friends) that you labour quickly and can't get to a hospital, or can't get prepped in time or the baby get into the birth canal and they can't safely perform a section. This would be the case whether NHS or privately.

Although completely understandable that it fuels your anxiety, there is no medical reason why your families traumatic births mean you're more likely to suffer the same (my friend is an obstetrician and I asked her) But I understand completely why this ramps up the anxiety.

If you haven't been pregnant yourself and have listened to friends who have said 'I asked for a section and got one', well, sometimes people simplify what went on in the consultation and it's often not as cut and dried as that. Many doctors, private and NHS and in other countries don't agree with non-medical sections. Again, mine didn't, although there were plenty in Singapore I believe who did.

All this said, you have a phobia. That is as good a reason in itself to have a section. You don't want to be overly stressing throughout your pregnancy (as I did) about birth. I'd still opt for counselling, it's not meant to 'make' you want a natural birth, simply discuss your strong feelings about this and about motherhood in general. I think you'll be fine.

How many weeks are you?

otchayaniye · 18/05/2011 20:58

"prepare to be chucked out within 48 hours"

That's my dream with this birth! With a toddler at home I don't want to be away from her for any longer!

I was 'chucked out' of my private suite (complete with LED tv and Playstation) in Asia in three nights I think.

MovingAndScared · 18/05/2011 21:12

Hi - just to say I really would advise going down the NHS route first - I am a bit confused about where you are at the moment and what stage of pregancy but normally you have an intial meeting with the midwife about 10 weeks - at that stage if there are any issues she refers you to a consultant - what I would do is ask her which one would be the best for your situation - you can also choose which hospital to go to - so you have more choice again - and it entirly depends on the hospital on how good the post natal care is - and I have 3 nights in with both my babies - one a section and one not

ajmama · 18/05/2011 21:52

Its very much down to how you feel but personally I would hate to leave hospital just 48 hours after major surgery. I have a little one at home as well and this time my priority is getting up on my feet again asap which I dont think can be done 48 hours after a section.
Agree with moving that it does depend on the hospital and how full it is but from friends experiences and posts on here you will be very lucky to have more than 2 days.
Going back to the OP , when will you know where you are going to be based? If you do want to go local im sure that someone on here will know a lovely sympathetic consultant who will be happy to go with your maternal choice.

LaraCameron · 18/05/2011 22:40

Otchayaniye-
May I just thank you for how wonderful and supportive you've been?
I realise what you're saying. As I said I'd be happy to discuss the risks with a doctor. I would never get a c section before 39 weeks anyway and if I go into labor before that, well I suppose the baby will have to come out either way- natural or not.
Im prepared for the eventuality that if the baby is practically waving at them there will be no choice but to have a vaginal delivery- I guess one cant do anything about that.
I know that many NHS consultants work privately- its just that if I go as a private patient they are more likely to agree as they dont have to worry about NHS costs. Also then I will have consultant led care- I dont think midwives can benefit my situation in any way.I dont mind them trying to talk me into a natural birth, but I can say with conviction my mind is totally made up-its a section or nothing.
Also, sometimes its not 'steer' it is 'force'. My SIL, had her first baby in UK , and suffered 3rd degree tears, prolapse, and incontinence due to a forceps delivery after a 40 hour labor.
The second time she rightly begged for a c section but was denied one.
And now, there are no prizes for guessing her situation is worse- she has the worst kind of incontinence and hasnt been intimate with her husband in 4 years. The experience has affected her relationship with her kids as well.She blames the consultant who refused to give her a c section the second time, as it made the damage far worse. So, my guess is they can certainly force- and my poor SIL had a VERY valid reason. The point I was making earlier is that in most other systems this consultant could have been sued. And a private doctor would never refuse a woman with a traumatic birth experience a c section just because of costs.

As for the counselling,Ive had it since age sixteen. But my phobia is not so easy to get rid of apparently. Ive been to some of the best psychiatrists, but I cant seem bring myself to be open to a natural birth.
I fear the feeling of being out of control and exposed, the feeling of vulnerability and given the horrors Ive seen -the after effects of a vaginal birth gone wrong.

I will definitely try to convince the consultant Im assigned, but if all else fails I'll go pvt. I have some money I've inherited, and I cant think of a better way to spend it. Plus insurance will sometimes pay for a natural birth and the parents pay the balance when they have opted for a c section.

As for being in thw hospital for only two days- Im happy about that:)
I hate hospitals and wouldnt want to be there a moment longer than required.

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otchayaniye · 18/05/2011 23:02

Hey Lara, no problem and I'm horrified at what happened to your sister. I hope she's as ok as she can be. I suppose I was wrong, and they can outright deny you. Although generally I don't think they deny a former 'sectionee' a further one.

For what it's worth, I think you're making the right decision. And you may be able to get a consultant and backup psychiatrist to talk to your insurer if NHS won't stump up.

Best of luck, and please don't let the worry spoil things too much!

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