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Piles from hell

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Ilovecremeeggs3 · 25/04/2011 15:00

28wks pregnant with 3rd child & have had piles on & off this pregnancy. Upset stomach at weekend has led to unbelievably painful bout of piles. I am actually unable to walk- it is torturous & I have barely slept for 3nights. I have used anusol cream & suppositories (which usually work) to no avail. I have trying pushing back in(ouch!!) but pop back out.
I have tried hot baths & ice cubes but no joy.
I can see with mirror(no mean feat) that one is thrombosised!!!
Supposed to go back to work tomorrow but if things don't improve I won't be able to. I won't get paid & don't fancy explaining why I can't come in.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I really can't live like this for another 3 months!!! Please help- can the gp prescribe anything stronger?

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4pudding · 25/04/2011 15:06

Yes, go to the GP. I got codeine for the pain which actually let me have some sleep, and a hardcore ointment with hydrocortisone and a local anaesthetic. Have had two types, both good, called scheriproct and proctosedyl. You just use them for 7 days but by that time they should be a bit better, especially the thrombosed one. I have had two thrombosed this pregnancy, last one five days ago, so have spent all Easter lying down as I can't sit!

I would seriously think about not going to work, especially if it invocles lots of sitting. Just use the tummy upset as the reason. or would they let you work from home?

MummyAbroad · 25/04/2011 15:17

I agree with 4pudding dont go to work, and do go and get it fixed. I had thromobosed piles twice during the last pregnancy. Both times the clot was cut out. Its very embarassing to have someone fiddling about with your bum, but its a quick procedure and the pain relief is instant. It does obviously hurt a bit when they make the tiny cut, but in comparison to the pain of the hemorrhoid itself - its nothing!

IMO no cream/ice etc will provide adequate pain relief from thrombosed piles - once the clot is dealt with though, I find Aloe Vera gel soothing and you can put as much as you want on.

By the way, I fessed up at work as to the true reason for my absence - and received a lot of sympathy - these things are much more common that you think! Also the subject was dropped pretty quickly and never mentioned again - which was fine by me!

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Ilovecremeeggs3 · 25/04/2011 15:24

Thank you so much- nice to know you both got a solution. Glad to know there is something the gp can do- I was expecting to get fobbed off. The pain is just awful & I feel so useless.

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theonlyhb2 · 25/04/2011 15:25

i feel its my duty to inform all non-pregnant women (past and present) of the dangers of pregnancy and therefore piles. flipping horrible. i just thought you got fat, tired and emotional, not that your own body started turning against you!

4pudding · 25/04/2011 15:25

Ah MummyAbroad, would love for someone to cut the bugger out! Last one popped and I had to wear sanitary towels for a week- not someone one expects to do in pregnancy!

My GP has recommended I get surgery to sort them out once I've delivered. Slightly concerned about what childbirth will do to them? anyone have suggestions for least pressure positions?

4pudding · 25/04/2011 15:28

theonlyhb2 so bloody true! I said on another piles-related thread they should send us round schools during sex education classes!

WoodysHat · 25/04/2011 15:37

Get to your GP tomorrow and ask for Scheriproct. I had a terrible bout of piles at 37 weeks and I couldn't walk or sit down, in fact even getting up off the sofa was agonising.

I couldn't possibly see how I was going to push a baby out as I was in so much pain. Anyway, a couple of days of using the ointment I was much better and within a week totally back to normal. Just as well really because DS arrived 2 weeks early and I had no problems giving birth and not a jot of pain afterwards either. I think I'd already done all my post-birth suffering the weekend before!

Anusol etc work ok for some people but, IMO, it's best to go for something prescribed as I couldn't believe the improvement in only a few days. Plenty of fibre in your diet and copious amounts of water will help keep them at bay too.

Hope you're feeling better soon, it's awful and I remember it well!

4pudding · 25/04/2011 15:49

Yes, Scheriproct very good, the lidocaine in it numbs it enough that it doesn't feel like there is someone stabbing you in the bum all the time, just feels a bit uncomfortable instead.

Glad to hear you had a straightforward birth WoodysHat, cant wait to get this one out and have my body to myself again!

MummyAbroad · 25/04/2011 16:00

Hi 4Pudding I was recommended surgery post pregnancy too, but was too scared to do it. I googled and found loads of stuff about fecal incontinence as a possible side effect!!

I have to say though that piles have been totally managable since birth, even though they are grade 4 and external - (why didnt I name change for this? )

I am 12 weeks into another pregnancy now though, so far so good, but who knows...

WoodysHat would just like to strongly disagree about the fibre and water. DONT ever eat stuff like Ryvetta, All bran etc (natural fibres like fruit and veg only, and keep to recommended amounts dont overdo it) Processed fibres swell stools and make them hard and difficult to pass, too much water reduces sodium so stools are even harder. The best thing to aim for is to be able to make soft poos that are easy to pass, so you dont NEED fibre to force them through. Fibre becomes addictive, if you eat too much you wont be able to poo without it. If you have a very high fibre diet, stop using it gradually or you will get very constipated. See the book Fibre Menace for more info or read this

things you should do instead are:

increase your intestinal flora - this helps make poo soft, so you dont need to force it through with fibre (fibre strips away intestinal flora) intestinal flora feeds off: bananas, garlic, onions, dandelion leaves, artichoke and leeks.
eat foods which are natural stool softeners (black beans, kidney beans) experiment and see what works for you.
use a footstall when you go to the loo so you are in more of a squat position.

HipposGoBeserk · 25/04/2011 16:04

Stop wiping. Wash.

Go and see your GP.

missp2010 · 25/04/2011 16:49

I think I have a thrombosed one too :( can the gp cut them out or do you have to get a referral?

I have been waiting for DD to go back to school before I make an app. Really don't want to have to take her with me, or explain to her what the dr is doing to my bum! But eurgh it's uncomfortable.

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Ilovecremeeggs3 · 25/04/2011 16:58

Going to ring nhs24 to see if I can get any pain relief- this is torture. I am so embarrassed but can't move or stand the pain anymore.

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4pudding · 25/04/2011 17:00

The pain of the thrombosed one was comparable with labour IMO. Actually would rather labour as at least contractions come and go!

GP wouldn't cut it out for me but did get strong cream & codeine which helped.

MummyAbroad · 25/04/2011 18:29

Sorry, dont know if GP will cut it or not. I was abroad when I had thrombosed piles. The first time I went to a gastroentorologist who did it in his office. He told me that at any moment I could get another clot, and that I should go straight to A&E to get it cut out if I couldnt get to him, I did this the second time as it happened over the weekend and was seen to very quickly. I had DS in the UK and saw the GP after the birth as I was in loads of pain again. She had a look but said that it wasnt thrombosed this time (it was actually stitches shrinking and causing pain) so I do know that at least they can identify a thrombosed hemorrhoid.

and I agree about labour pains. I used breathing pain relief to cope with the thrombosis/cutting and it didnt provide much releif at all!! I managed to labour drug free with a 9 pound baby no problem!!

mummyofaAngel · 21/10/2012 01:58

I am 21 and suffer with lbs, it has always given me piles. Like really bad or so I thought. I had my son last year and due to pushing for 20 hours due to complications I had the worst piles imaginable. The midwife who came to check on me she said they were the worst she had ever seen in over 30 years in the job. I used sheriproct both types and omg within 2 days they had gone right the way down don't get my wrong they were still there but the pain was ok, its numbs and makes them smaller after using them the toilet was a doddle. Just wished I had shown someone in the hospital as I was never examined even though it was complicated I had 3 sets of stitches inside and out it was over 2 weeks after I had oliver someone checked even though I said how sore I was to each. That midwife was a god send, I single mum living alone with a baby with colic was not a good mix never mind the piles

Londonmamabychance · 08/12/2016 10:04

Bigfam and everyone else with piles I know how you feel, sorry you have to suffer! In the exact same. Going to ring GP now and beg for something stronger than anusol that isn't helping at all. Will let you know how it goes! Have been using ice, witch hazel and anusol and baths and paracetamol. Who knows it maybe but worse without these treatments but it's agony as it is! They also say make sure to drink loads of water, avoid caffeine and eat plenty of fibre to avoid constipation.

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