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Aspartame - diet drinks and juice

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Newmummytobe79 · 23/03/2011 15:04

Hi all,

I've been happily swigging back glasses of a well known sugar free cordial (I don't like water so use it to make it taste better! Childish I know!) only to be told that it contains aspartame and how terrible it is.

I've managed to cut out the cigarettes, alcohol, reduced my 7 + cups of coffee to 1 or 2 and consider myself to now be living an angelic lifestyle! (ok - I have the odd glass of wine on a special occasion!)

Has anyone else cut sugar free items out of their diet?

x

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KittyChat · 23/03/2011 15:14

I thought the whole 'evil aspartame' thing was debunked ages ago?

ajandjjmum · 23/03/2011 15:17

I heard - years ago - that in the States pilots couldn't fly within a certain number of hours of having aspartame. Urban myth or true?

Petalouda · 23/03/2011 15:18

I agree with Kitty, I think it's up there with MMR causing autism (IT DOESN'T!)

However, we avoid aspartame because DH has PKU, and it's a source of phenylalanine (an amino acid vital for life - DH has a supplement for the broken-down version).

That's about the only legitimate reason to avoid it, that I know of.

spatchcock · 23/03/2011 15:19

Yep, total urban myth, it's been approved as safe in over 90 countries around the world - meaning it has been rigorously tested by all.

One of those myths that refuses to die, like the MMR vaccine/autism hooha!

More info here:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

spatchcock · 23/03/2011 15:20

x posts with Peta!

Newmummytobe79 · 23/03/2011 15:22

Phew! Thanks ladies x

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G1nger · 23/03/2011 15:23

Phenylalanine in/tolerance is one of the first tests done on newborns. I don't know whether it can affect a baby in utero, but as my partner is intolerant to it I have cut it out just in case.

Petalouda · 23/03/2011 15:31

G1inger - sorry to be pedantic, it's not a phenylalanine 'intolerance', it's an inherited metabolic disorder (precipitated by many genetic changes) where the body does not produce (at all, or in sufficient quantities) the enzyme which breaks down phenylalanine, thereby leading it to build up on the brain over several years, causing brain damage.

It won't affect an unborn baby unless the mother has PKU, but she'd be monitored very closely throughout pregnancy and would have to keep her levels very low and stable.

There's no affect for babies in utero with PKU fathers (as the unaffected mother's body will have broken down the Phe and will only be passing on the Phe and it's products at safe levels through the placenta).

If your husband has PKU, G1nger, surely you know this?! He must know and understand the genetics, and you must have been offered genetic counselling during your pregnancy?!

G1nger · 23/03/2011 15:33

He doesn't have PKU - he has an allergy to phenylalanine which brings his skin out in a mess. So no, I wouldn't have had genetic counselling or know any of this, but I do appreciate your insights.

lilly13 · 23/03/2011 15:37

i thought these pose danger to fetus... i cut these out...

spatchcock · 23/03/2011 15:39

Lilly - on what basis?

Petalouda · 23/03/2011 15:43

G1inger - sorry, I've never heard of an allergy to Phe, it must be a right nightmare then, as presumably your DP would be on an even stricter (sp?) diet than my DH?

The guthrie test (heel-prick) they do at birth tests for Phe levels in the blood, if they're elevated it suggests Phe isn't being broken down, and the baby therefore is likely to have PKU. I'm not sure this would identify an allergy, as presumably your DP can break down the Phe no problem, but there's something else going on?

It'd be worth bearing in mind, is all, as the guthrie test might not pick up any potential allergy in your baby. Although, again, I'm sure you've already put these wheels in motion with your midwives/doctors etc.

Good luck with your LO!

G1nger · 23/03/2011 15:45

Thanks, Petalouda. It's not really a nightmare to manage as it's well identified on packaging. I also really appreciate your insights as I hadn't looked closely enough at my screening tests booklet, which I've now re-consulted. I had assumed it was talking about the same thing, but more severe perhaps. It's good to know that I don't have to be as strict with myself, and that a bit of flexibility here and there won't be a problem.

MmeLindt · 23/03/2011 15:46

I don't think aspartame is dangerous, but it is known to stimulate the appetite, which makes you eat more.

For that reason, I would rather have a glass of normal sugary drinks than a diet drink.

grumpypants · 23/03/2011 15:47

www.food.gov.uk/safereating/chemsafe/additivesbranch/sweeteners/55174

Prob a very good source of current thinking. Also info on phenylketone (sp?) genetic disorder.
FWIW I don't (try not to) give the dcs anything with artificial or diet sweeteners as I feel that 'real' food is the best way to eat.
Never knew aspartame used to be Nutrsweet tho.

Petalouda · 23/03/2011 15:59

G1inger - Phe is in most protein, so PKU sufferers have a low-protein diet (i.e. no meat, fish, dairy, eggs, etc & limited amounts of pasta, bread, certain vegetables). My DH is allowed 18g of protein a day - to put that in perspective, there's around 3g in the average slice of bread.

I think it might be that your DP has an allergy to actual aspartame, rather than the Phe which is only a part of it. Or he'd struggle on a 'normal' diet.

An aspartame allergy isn't unusual (my sister thinks she's allergic - she gets some digestive problems associated), and I think other sweeteners can do odd things to people who are sensitive too.

Avoiding aspartame (as opposed to Phe) should be quite straightforward to do with your LO, as you're already doing it for your DP at home.

If anyone's interested - here's some drinks that are aspartame free!

  • Ocean spray cranberry squash (the half sugar ones have sucralose, normal are just sugar)
  • tesco's standard lemonade is aspartame free! (beware, nearly all the big brand lemonades have aspartame in, including anything served in a pub)
  • All the bottle green cordials are good
  • 'full fat' coke is fine (obviously not any of the diet varieties).

And MmeLindt - you're right, it was shown that somewhere between the taste buds and the brain our bodies know when we're not getting actual sugar, and so you continue to crave the sugar. Normally, when you drink something containing glucose, the body releases stored glucose into the blood in anticipation - this doesn't happen if you've had sweetener instead (New Scientist article here)

G1nger · 23/03/2011 16:00

That must be a real nightmare for your partner, Petalouda. Thanks again for your insights - I'm sure you're right.

Petalouda · 23/03/2011 16:12

It's not actually that bad - he's a great cook and we eat wonderful veggie food! Easier to deal with than brain damage! I suspect it'd be hard with a small child though - we'll wait and see! Smile

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