New Hyperemesis Support thread founded by the lovely LucindaE

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As the old thread is nearly full here it is time a brand new thread is born. All we need now is a new vomit face emoticon MN towers!

We are a bunch of past, present and future HG sufferers (along with worried spouses, family and friends) who use this thread to support, listen and discuss the dreaded pregnancy illness that is HG (hyperemesis gravidarum).

There are no limits on how much moaning posters can do nor can anyone's symptoms or experiences be tmi.

The old thread has been a great support to many of us and we hope this new thread carries on the great work started by old thread founder and HG guru LucindaE. She still maintains, supports and clucks around the thread daily even though her own experience of HG is thankfully over.

So with no further incoherent rambling from me on with the new thread eh?

Thanks guys. I was actually sick last week, I was so tired from work, I thought fatigue may have triggered it again but wasn't sure. I'm probably just being very impatient, at least I can get out of the house now!! It's one of the most awful things I've been through, it's so hard being stuck at home all day feeling so low, but at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel! xx

Hi there everyone, sorry I haven't been about and am only on a flying visit. I am ok so please don't be concerned. We lost DH's dad in the early hours of Saturday morning so the weekend has been a bit up and down, here, there, and everywhere.

Helping to prepare funeral and trying to keep MIL strong (DD is best for that) and helping with the practicalities so might not be around much in the coming couple of weeks.

Hope everyone is doing ok as can be.

Hello to the newbies, sorry you find yourself here.

On a plus note, we should be getting our new guinea pigs today or tomorrow

Love to you all xx

Mena Thank you for such a nice message,and for such encouragement to all sufferers on here. It's lovely to hear from you again, you were one of the early ones on the old thread, along with Fluffy. I felt so bad when I couldn't contact you through the messages. Don't know if others had this problem at one time? Baby five months, wow...
Hayley welcome. I think Hyperemesis affects your energy for ages. I wish you had been with us earlier, to give moral support.
Lizzy how are you? whizz thinking of you...
Everyone It is kind of you all to sympathize about migraines, but a migraine rather shorter than Hyperemesis, let alone a full term bout like Grumblin and Caramel, with LO's too...
Cocoanuts Sorry for your loss, what with MaryLou it almost seems as though tragedy strikes when one is in no state to cope with it easily...MaryLou This nausea and dry heaving and bile sounds nasty enough, goodness knows .
Grumblin Never worry about graphic descriptions - this is the place for them! I feel sorry for any man (possibly a concerned OH) trying to read this thread, they tend to be more squeamish...I think the vomiting with the migraines got worse with Hyperremesis, as if I'd learned how to puke with style and abandon, but I had them before, part of the hormonal imbalance that triggers Hyperemesis (presumably) I suppose. Horrible graphic detail: I once brought up half a puking bowl of foam, I don't know where it came from as I was dehydrated at the time, literally foaming at the mouth .
theOnly Yes, when the dehyrdation headaches stopped I was head pain free till D/D was weaned and cycle came back! I am glad your energy's back.
Cake Oh dear yes, I had repeated disgusting dreams about food though - don't read any more anyone who feels really ill - about having chewed food in my mouth and feeling as though I would choke on it and putting in my hand to pull it out...
Caramel Cheering you on as you reach the goalpost! Caramel! Caramel!
LA Sorry that nausea persists. You said you had suddenly become large, I believe, so it is as well you don't have to be squashed in the rush hour...
NitNat Yes, I was so relieved that you didn't have to go back to work. I'm glad it gives some experience to your colleague.A music teacher and able to 'maintain discipline' too! No wonder you are able to deal with Hyperemesis! I do so envy people with musical talent...
Best wishes to Ski Luce and all.
LucindaE
xx

hayley i still suffer from tiredness, 21 weeks now and this week is the first week I have been to work 3 days in a row, practically full time, and going out tonight (only to be best friends, but still, amazing to go out twice in 1 day!) I was sick this morning and I think its cos I am tired so must get into bed by 10am tonight or tomorrow will be no fun at work!

cocoanuts so sorry to hear about your loss, lots of hugs for you and your family

caramello so close for you now!

as for puke thru nose, I thought it was standard to always be sick out yr nose! you have to get the angle right with squatting in front of toilet, head not too far in the toilet, and far enough back that the projectile that till happen does all get in the toilet (and maybe with a towel underneath in case yr pelvic floor has given up on you). Its for this reason I dont like my downstairs work toilet, as its for disabled and too high up for comfortable puking

24 degrees here today in Cambridge!! Bloody amazing!

Coconuts sorry to hear about your mum in law. It's hard to cope with on top of everything else.

Anyone on cyclizine is the best I can expect 24 hour nausea, dry retching, complete exhaustion and bile vomits? Or do you think I should ask for something else? It is helping me stop throwing up but I feel dreadful. I'm thinking I'm going to have to go off sick soon which I really don't want to have to do, but not sure how I can work in this state.

Sorry, justa very quick one as dcs playing up and I need to get them in bed for Waterloo Road
Marylou I felt as you did on cyclizine until I started taking vit B6 with it - 10mg with first tab, 20mg with 2nd, 10mg with third, and then the 10mg in my pregnacare. Not sure if it made a difference but the nausea seemed to be confined to 4pm onwards (as does any actual throwing up). Might be worth giving it a try? Failing that, def contact gp and see what the next line of action is x

Hello everyone, can't remember who asked about acupuncture in the ear but I did have a couple of needles in my inner ear and also a special plaster type thing that I kept in between appointments. I can't say wether it was the ondansetron or the acupuncture or a combination but I did feel like this time round it got easier quicker after starting of them. It doesn't hurt although feels a bit odd :)
Coconuts sorry to hear of your loss, hope you are all coping OK.
MaryLou ask for something else, there is stemitil and metaclopromide (sp?) that works for some people if they won't give you the holy grail ondansetron!
Hayley unfortunately even if the worst of the sickness stops it's pretty much par for the course feeling knackered constantly. Just try and do the most vital things and let some of the less necessary stuff slide as much as possible.
Waves at everyone else,
Theonly we live near each other if you're in Cambridge :) Have fun going out tonight.

Well Hello all - I had my scan this morning and it showed a perfectly healthy baby 22mm long and all formed with arms and legs and head!! They think I had an edge bleed where baby moved to get in a better position and this caused a tear. Just have to keep an eye out for shortness of breath and a temperature but think now this is 5 days on all should be ok. Proper relieved but sickness returned good and proper this morning and had a nice bile run so sort of thought things might be ok so gone back up to 3 tablets.

lizzy and newbies - I suffered through my first pg puking for 20 weeks everyone inc gp/mws just kept saying its just morning sickness and its not for foreever and made me feel like I was whinging and that it was normal and just get on with it. I had to stop working and my oh had many days off to look after me. A doc on new years eve out of hours gave me stemetil injection and some tabs but it didnt work very well and my then GP told me there was nothing else and unless I was completely dehydrated to collapse then tough by the time I had started finding soloutions I was near 20 weeks had lost a stone but it was easing. This time I have done my homework and as soon as it started and it was worse earlier this time from 5 weeks and by 7 weeks I was nearly to hospital.

those wondering about cycizine I went to my new GP Surgery and was put on Cyclizine no questions as soon as they heard my history. Its working quite well for me but has taken nearly 3 weeks to stop feeling woozy and not too zombie like. Have slept a lot last 2 weeks and still feel knackered and I am managing to eat quite well now all beit a strange selection, drinking is the hardest for me and makes me puke if I drink to much or too quickly. Still getting a bit of nausea and the odd bile run and darent be late with a tablet or stand clear!

Hb oh to eat a chinese and 3 courses! Dont go too mad I put four stone on in the last 20 weeks last time - so damn gratefull I could eat again! I just kept eating!! Only 3 counted as I had lost one puking!

cakeforbreakfast Blowing on sons food and retching.... I was doing that while making DS1 packed lunch last week. OH said the poor sod might not want your puke in it and took over!

nitnat trying soda and apple juice at the moment!

coconuts sorry to hear about your FIL and hope you MIL and DH are doing ok. and that you are getting some rest too.

Love to all
xx

Thanks for the welcome, everyone, I'm feeling a little better today after seeing the midwife and then doctor earlier. I've been given cyclizine, so hopefully that will help. I'm underweight without losing any weight, so it wasn't that hard to convince them that its serious after all. I've only got to get through one more day at school, then I get nearly a month off, what with bank holidays and royal weddings etc.

It just feels like a massive relief, although physically I am still a mess. Whoever it was that said about people recommending ginger biscuits, you are so right! If anyone else suggests it I am going to punch them in the face. IT DOESN'T F*ING WORK!!!!!

Hope everyone is feeling ok today, I wish I could just curl up in bed for the next 7 months, how much easier would that be than trying to work out how to cope with life?!

lizzy hopefully it will get easier after 16 weeks (or so!) it does for most but not all. I was 20 weeks before it eased last time. Just rest as much as possible as tiredness does make it worse. With Cyclizine a rountine seems to work for us girls.. wake up take tablet.... dont move for one hour! then try eating before moving out of bed, eat what you fancy not what you think you should have! I found the tablets make you woozy for first few days so be carefull driving. I take mine at 6am, 12noon and 6pm and that seems to get me through. I set my alarm for 6am take tablet then try and sleep till 7am if DS1 hasnt already jumped on me! Took me 2 weeks to settle in to them but they are doing the job now and its amazing what a bit of food and some liquid do to make you feel better. If you dont manage to keep the first few tablets down you can get an injection of cyclizine ( I wont lie it stings a bit!!) and then try the tablets again. The more dehydrated you are the more concentrated the hormones the more sick you are. Once you get some level of hydration back you will feel able to cope again - and dont forget you do get an amazing baby out of all this it is definately worth it. xxx

Oh wow, I wish I had found this group earlier, I relate to everything people are saying! Bile through the nose, oh yes, being told gingernuts are the cure, oh nooo!! I just don't think people realise at all how much this effects your life and how isolating it is. I have recently moved from London to Herts and as my friends are no longer round the corner I haven't seen most
of them for 3 months!! I've just felt too ill for people to visit or do anything but literally go to the Docs! It's so difficult at work now as I'm officially 'back', but trying to do the same workload in half the time as I can early manage 3 days a week. Work want to know when I'll be back to normal but I can't say. Again yesterday I had a blip, I was so tired and I was sick. I'm scared it can come back if I push too hard? Anyway, I think this group is great, it def helps knowing people know exactly how you feel!!

Hi all
I was hoping for some advice on how you all cope with your dc's?
I have 2 age 3&1. And currently things are getting worse. I'm in cyclizine and can only take 2 tablets as I get so tired from each tablet so I have to muss the middle one out. take 1 at 6am and one when dh gets in from work.
I'm very sick in the mornings and then have nausea headaches dizziness for the test of the day. I struggle drinking as it makes me wretch. Everything tastes foul to me-including water.
I've had my dad helping for the last few weeks but he has to go home (lives 200 miles away) and so next week will be alone with the children. I feel si dizzy at times I'm scared I'm going to pass out and have to lie flat alot.
How is everyone else managing? X

boo Yesterday was a bad day for me (I ripped my throat puking so couldn't eat anything so sickness was awful) DS2 was at home with me and in the end I had to ring my mum and she came and took him out to the park for a while. I'm afraid there isn't alot of advice I can give you about looking after DC's with HG, its pretty much a nightmare unless someone else can share the load. Have you got any childcare options? If you have then I'd use them to full effect. How many weeks are you now? I'd try to VitB6 combined with cyclizine to take the edge of the zombie feelings.

littlewizz great news re. the scan, congrats. I bet you are relieved eh? The thought of a 3 course chinese was not good! I've struggled with fluids this time too, food was worse with other but every time I drink with this one I feel nauseous. have you tried sparkling water with ice & lemon? It helps me.

lizzy I had to reinterview for my job in Jan and part of me wanted to be made redundant because the thought of having time off to vomit was very appealing! Glad you saw the docs. Get alot of rest over the next few days.

coconuts sorry about your FIL. Hope you are all ok. Thinking of you all.

lucinda Loving the conversations about foamy sick. Only on this thread!

Sorry to eveyone I've missed hope you are all ok.
x

Boo, I second what Grumblin says, if you can call in anyone to help with your DC, even if only for an hour or two, then do it. Can you afford a childminder? You might be able to find someone local who can help out for just a few hours a day even. Any relief is better than none. I only have the one DC to deal with, who's 2, so I can't imagine how hard it is with two. Lots of dvds, Cbeebies used and abused in this household, new toys ordered from Amazon, books on CD. Can you go and stay with your dad, or is that not practical?

Coconuts I hope you're doing ok, so sorry to hear about your FIL.
Littlewizz glad the scan was all fine! What a relief to be back to the bile runs!

everyone hope you're ok and that you can stagger into some sunshine/shade at some point and enjoy the warmth.

38+5 here...not that I'm counting .

Diege thanks for the B6 tip. I am feeling a bit better now. Feel less spaced out and I think a bit less nauseous. I've paid a few trips to retch every day but apart from the bile run at 7.30 am, haven't been sick. I have been at work the past two days though and I think it's easier than trying to look after non-stop DS at home. Will give it over the weekend and maybe try something else next week if I struggle again. The cyclizine is helping and I'm scared of changing to something that doesn't work. Unfortunately the bile run seems to be non-optional. If I take the cyclizine early and skip the bile run, I feel terrible. If I do the bile run then cyclizine, I am not too bad. Drinking is still very difficult.

Cake oh dear about blowing and retching! I've had the same problem too. Also happens if I cough (or even just clear my throat sometimes) or sometimes just talking.

boosaphena have you tried Diege's tip for combining cyclizine with B6? Other tips for coping with dc's. Hmmm, it's difficult. I feel for you having two of them. Do they still have naps? I cope with my days at home by going to bed when DS has his sleep in the afternoon. Mine has unlimited energy. I've started letting him out in the garden on his own and watching from the window but he soon gets bored with nobody to play with. Do you have any friends with children you could invite round so they can play together?

Grumblin ripped your throat with the retching?! Oh, poor you, that sounds horrible. Things are obviously not a lot better, and I do so feel for you. How long is it now before you are on the home run like Caramel? Gentle cyber pats sent...
Caramel I hope you are not feeling to bad at the moment?
MaryLou how are you, do you think you might get some joy out of your doctor for something else if the Cyclazine isn't helping as much as it might?
Cocoanuts Thinking of you ...
Boo I wish I could give some advice, stopped at one, but as the others say, there might be something, a part time nursery place, childminder, or something? I remember I heard that doctor's surgeries sometimes have volunteers who are training to be nursery nurses who help with women with twins. I wonder if there might be something for women who are ill when pregnant?
Hayley I wish you had joined earlier, too, and admire your courage in getting back to work.
Diege That is very instructive about B6...
LizzY So glad you got Cyclazine.
LittleWhizz Lovely news about that scan!
Everyone How are you you all?
LucindaE
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Thanks all. Unfortunately our funds are fairly tied at the mo so nursery etc is out of the question. I called a few colleges about the free placements but they apparently no longer run the initiative.
My dads house is not quite (at all) child friendly so we can't go up there. It's so frustrating as my mil lives an hour away but she's so self centered and unreliable and judgemental I can't ask her for help.
It looks like I might have to grin and bare it. Dd saw me sobbing this morning and came and cuddled me saying don't worry mummy. I feel so bad she is seeing me like this :(

Thanks for all the replies x

Boo oh dear, I really sympathise. Is there any chance you could change your medication maybe? I know it's upsetting when DCs see you with head down the toilet. Mine keeps saying 'no sick mummy bye bye' and tries to shut the toilet lid. I try to make out there's nothing much wrong but I'm not fooling him. He keeps saying 'mummy poorly' so has noticed something's different.

Booand MaryLou I am so frustrated that there is nothing that I can do for you myself, you poor girls! All I can do is send you waves of sympathy. I am sure you are tired of being told that things will almost certainly get better as time goes on, that the end result will be worth it. All I can say is, about this time Fluffy and Mena1 felt just as drained, aching and desperate as you do now. 'All Things Must Pass' you will glowing and eating and coming back on here to comfort others in a year's time...
very gentle cyber hugs
LucindaE
xx

Boo only other tip I can add is I use to have friends come round on Fridays & weekends (which was days I had DD all day) and they / their kids would help amuse DD whilst I spent time on sofa or throwing up!

Boo I am really lucky in that my OH is a postman which means I only have to get through half a day on my own. My mum comes in once a week to help but apart from that ceebeebies and DVDs are unfortunately a staple in my house. Puzzles and playdoh etc are good too as they keep his attention for a while, toys from the charity shop every now and then give him something "new" without costing much. OH sometimes sets up something the night before to engage him in the morning like a pretend picnic on a blanket in the living room or a giant box full of balls! Switching toys around works quite well too - sometimes an old favourite can be forgotten if it's been in the toybox a while. Other than that, if he needs my attention, we go for activities were he can join me on the sofa - books, snap, crayons on a lap tray. Hope my suggestions can be of some help to you, take care x

Hey, it's gone very quiet. I hope everyone is still alive?
LucindaE
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Guess where I spent the end of last week and the week end? Back on gynae ward....

Cyclizine supplies were running low. Went to GP for repeat prescription. Asked recptionist to make sure request went to DrKnowsMyHistoryAndIsSympathetic. But she sent it to DrMiserableCowWhoHatesWomenDespiteBeingOne, who would not give me any more. So I started trying to eek out the supplies I had, and started throwing up again. Went down hill very quickly. On Wed am I rang up DH and begged him to come home and take me to hospital. Admitted immediately! 3 days on drip and IV anti emetics. Mum came up for w/e (she lives 250 miles away), cleaned house, did garden and gave DH a break.

This morning I got up and dressed for the first time in about a month and took DS to nursery! I feel OK. Touch wood. Mum's just gone home. Have eaten a tub of hummous and a bag of crisps. Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel?

Big thing that has made me feel LOADS better is I have had a poo for the first time in about a month! Well, Lucinda did say that nothing is TMI on this thread!

12 week scan tommorow. If this pg is the same as last, I think I am actually a bit more. I hope so, other bubba has the potential to come on my birthday!

Bike - oh no at being in hospital again. How grim. And how shit you couldn't get your prescription. your mum sounds lovely :) I am also having similar poo issues. Can you get some lactulose if you can stomach swallowing it? Good luck for your scan tomorrwo :)

Eventful weekend here too. Was DD's birthday yesterday, had lovely BBQ in garden and ended the day having a car collision with a cyclist. All parties are fine but was a bit scary.

I think my HG is lessening. I can manage up to about 9 hours between tablets now until I feel sick. I am eating much better but still only fancy certain things and still many foods I can't even think about. But definitely an improvement. :)

Hope everyone else is ok :)

Coconuts have been on Lactulose and Senna for a week. Was on Movicol for a few days too, but it just made me sick (tastes like seawater). Anyway, suffice to say, I don;t think I need anymore laxatives at the moment!

Hate road accidents always shake me up, poor you. Mum managed to let go of her trolley in garden centre car park and hit another (brand new, shiny) car. Luckily I was putting DS in the car at the time and didn't see a thing. Would hate to be a witness as I think it was pretty much all her fault.