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ANY NORTH-WEST WOMEN, Do NOT have your babies at Wythenshawe Hospital.......

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LittleBeth53 · 16/01/2011 01:59

Oh Wythenshawe Hospital. Where to start? The website promises state of the art birthing suites, luxerious pools, have any of your family members come & go as they please, recover in a private room if you request. They promise all the same on the tour.

So I chose to have my first baby in Wythenshawe Hospital and for the rest of my life I will regret it.

I was put in a room with none of the things they promise, but an old bed with no pillows, no blanket & a canteen chair for my boyfriend to sit in.

I was rushed through for an emergency C-section ofter 3 hours of mild labour pains; nobody would actually specify what the emergency was!

I was guaranteed a private room. I was put in a 'poorly baby' room with 5 other women crammed in there. Each room was only meant to accomodate 3 women & their babies. Me & my baby were fine, my son was an angel throughout our stay but the babies in the room with us were in need of specialist care & neither me nor my son had any sleep in 72 hours for the combined force of 5 babies joint screaming.

As I had a section I needed a catheter (tube they put inside your urethra that your wee goes down,) it was wrongly placed twice & therefore the bed I was in was soiled twice.

The catheter was ripped out 3 different times by orderlies sent to change my bedding ONE HOUR after my surgery, when I couldnt walk.

Nobody came to administer to my pain relief the whole time I was there. I had to ask each & every time. I couldnt walk due to the numbing medicine from the section & each time I needed some help I was treated as a chore.

I needed help changing my maternity pads in the night due to the numb legs, I had to buzz 8 TIMES for somebody to come & help me.

Eventually I leaked, soaking my bed in blood. They sent an ORDERLY who spoke no english, NOT a midwife, to help clean me up & change my pads.

The orderly again ripped out my catheter & when she went to get a midwife to put it back in, the midwife wore a look of disgust, grimacing through putting it back in for me. Each time the tube had to be placed back in, it was agony.

I was only allowed 2 visitors other than my partner for two one hour periods throughout the whole day. There were no visitor toilets & my mother was refused entry into the patient toilets. They told her if she needed the toilet she had to spend 15 minutes of her visiting time walking to & from the visitors toilets in the entire opposite wing to the hospital.

When I think back to the birth of my first baby I dont remember the elation, the joy, the new baby smell, visitors bringing gifts (visitors were asked NOT to bring gifts.)

The memory I'll always carry with me is being held up by 2 midwives & my mother as I couldnt move my legs, naked & sobbing with enormous clots of blood & urine pouring down my legs while orderlies changed my bed for the 4th time due to bed leakages from poor care. All in my first day of recovery.

In the end I discharged my baby and myself and refused to wait for them to all clear me.

We're currently seeking legal action against this hospital for gross neglect.

Please do not go to Wythenshawe Hospital. I wouldnt wish my experience on anybody.

Much love. xxxx

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inneedofchocolate · 18/01/2011 12:13

Gosh, it really seems to be hit or miss in Wythenshawe these days. I received great care when I had my DS by emergency c section 5 years ago, but the after care when I had a VBAC with my DD the following year was definitely lacking. I really think that the differences in peoples' experiences come down to the individual medical staff that are supposed to look after you. If you have a great midwife to support you during labour and afterwards whilst on the ward, then the whole experience can be remembered fondly. If not, then fear and fury can be the dominant emotions that remain with you when remembering what should have been a joyous time.

I hope that you get the support that you need to highlight to the hospital where they are going wrong. It is only when people take action against them that they seem to listen. Good luck!

buttonmoon78 · 18/01/2011 14:18

Earwigca I'm sorry you feel you were ignored. I guess I'm finding it hard to believe that in today's litigious society a woman saying (presumably) loudly and in a distressed manner 'don't touch me, take your hands off me, you're hurting me' etc would be ignored, especially in a care situation. And that a worker who is vulnerable to assault / negligence accusations would continue to do whatever they were doing.

Obviously the poor experiences I've had are nothing like anything you guys have suffered so I'll shut my trap now for fear of upsetting anyone else!

earwicga · 18/01/2011 14:30

buttonmoon - I didn't 'feel' like I was ignored, I was ignored, and the whole stay was an utter nightmare. And yes please, do shut your trap, as you are offending me with your ignorance.

ohanotherone · 18/01/2011 14:41

Dear Beth,

I had a shit stay in a hospital 5 years ago, I still cry about it now. I wish I had complained at all...complained more.. sought some redress so go ahead and complain loudly. Don't let people put you off!

buttonmoon78 · 18/01/2011 14:52

Hmm Earwigca

I wasn't aware you knew me in RL.

buttonmoon78 · 18/01/2011 14:58

Beth - I think I'm being wrongly labelled as someone who's trying to put you off complaining. I'm not.

I think you should complain and ensure that the management of the hospital is aware of your concerns and that they put steps in place to ensure such lapses are not repeated.

I also think you should follow up your notes and a debrief session so you can fully understand the choices which were apparently made for you and the circumstances in which they were made.

I do think, as I said before, that you need to calmly formulate what you want to say and work out what is helpful and what is unhelpful to bring up.

And I stand by my comments that you ought to make sure that this doesn't overshadow these early days with your baby. Believe me, although you feel like it was ages ago, in the grand scheme of things it really isn't and you may well still be in shock. It may even be helpful to seek some sort of counselling from your GP. This might help to place your thoughts in a coherent order and make it easier to complain.

amistillsexy · 18/01/2011 23:35

Want2BeSupermum from your posts, I gather that you are worried about giving birth in a uk hospital, when your treatment in the US has been so positive.
Have you thought about using an Independent Midwife? She would work with you pre-natally and do all your pre-natal appointments (taking far longer over them than the allotted 5 minutes or so that NHS midwives are given!). She would support you during hospital visits (if needs be), and could attend you in an NHS hospital or at home, whichever you choose.
Try Googling Independent Midwives UK or Radical Midwives UK for more information.

Sorry to hijack your thread, LittleBeth! Smile

ledkr · 19/01/2011 00:25

i cant believe some of the posts on here tbh.No it is not ok for an orderly to remove a catheter-but they didnt remove it they "pulled it out" a catheter is held in the bladder by a little ballon filled with water,to remove it you use a syringe to withdraw the water before gently removing the tube,having it pulled out several times must have been extremely painfull and could have damaged the bladder.The nhs is under pressure from cuts etc but that does not excuse poor practice and lack of equipment or basic things like pillows,the hospital i will be giving birth in next week has all mod cons and is very clean and i shall be expecting first class care so why should anyone else experience any less?
You are very vulnerable post surgery and have the right to compassionate and professional care.Nurses Drs and even Auxillarys' are all expected to work to a code of practice and have a duty of care,this is no different in any hospital and people who make excuses for bad practice (whilst saying what great experiences they had)are enabling the nhs system to go to pot without reprimand.
Complain,but yes stick to the serious stuff.

Want2bSupermum · 19/01/2011 03:45

Thank you amistillsexy. My obn has suggested I look at that but I didn't know where to look. I was going to start a thread to ask. I had a nightmare today dealing with the Manchester midwife self referral service.

End of hijack....

Want2bSupermum · 19/01/2011 03:55

Quite scary to read that independent midwives don't have professional indemnity insurance because the insurance is too expensive.... arghhhh.

believe · 21/07/2012 17:18

Hi I came across your message which was over a year ago now. I dont know whether you will receive this personal message but if you do Iwould like to say google me and get in touch. I am a HypnoBirth Practitioner and am appalled at how you have been treated. You say your memories are of a bad birth. That I understand. If ever you get in touch I teach in Mnachester and if there is anything I can do , I offer my services free of charge. I hope you managed to de brief with a senior midwife andnlodge your complaint. Yours Jean Anderson

Katieme123 · 02/03/2015 22:10

The hospital was great for me when I had my baby. Great care. Lovely hospital.

Aley009 · 03/03/2015 09:21

Wow that is Truly awful I felt so sad for you reading this! My hospital stay wasn't the best ( also section) but yours sounds horrific I'm so sorry. And very glad you are seeking legal action this is Appalling!

Sophieelmer · 03/03/2015 09:33

Telling women not to have their babies at wythenshawe is scaremongering! I had a fantastic experience at the mlu at wythenshawe not that long ago. It was peaceful, calm and I was well supported and cared for. I hope my experience gives some balance to any expectent mums reading this.
I am sorry for you, that your experience was not a pleasent one.

Figfog · 03/03/2015 09:49

I'm really sorry about your experience.

I too had a difficult experience with the birth of my son. Although most of the experience was positive, part of it was truly horrendous and should not have happened. It took me until a year after he was born to be able to talk about without crying- and I didn't think I was particularly affected until then.

I complained through PALS and they were very helpful. I met with senior members of staff and action was taken against the midwife who caused the issue. I felt my complaint was taken incredibly seriously and changes have been put in place because of it. We shouldn't have to just accept poor care.

Adarajames · 03/03/2015 09:59

Resurrecting the zombies there! Wink

hesterton · 03/03/2015 10:06

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Joyfulldeathsquad · 03/03/2015 10:10

Just noticed it was a zombie thread.

I had brilliant care there - so much I sent a card.

From birthing pool to assisted labour room to theatre they were all fab

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