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Grumble about Southern Trains

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Valbonne09 · 17/08/2010 15:06

Just wanted to have a quick moan. Renewed my annual gold card train ticket on the assurance from Southern Customer Services and staff at the ticket desk in Victoria station that having the gold card entitled pregnant (and I believe elderly and less able passengers) a free upgrade to first class seating when the train was full and there were seats available in first class that were not being used or needed by first class ticket holders. I renewed it on this assurance despite knowing that I would lose money doing it this way rather than on a month by month basis as I would have to cancel it after just 4 months (you only get a partial refund based on a discounted rate of travel).

I had to test this for the first time recently when I sat in first class as the train was packed. First class was entirely empty. I met the most abusive young FEMALE conductor who said there were seats available 11 carriages away and that I should have walked up and down looking more thoroughly or waited for the next train (30 minutes). I wrote to Southern to query how it all works and they wrote back saying how concerned they were as they do not offer this policy at all. After further investigation it seems most other train lines offer this, except Southern!

Feeling really pissed off and duped by their sales/ticketing team and now considering having to revise when maternity leave starts. 25+1 at the moment and pretty huge with it and all the normal joys of acute round ligament pain and back ache make commuting a real low point of the day (hmm, was it ever a highlight?).

On contrast, South West trains could not be more lovely and have even gone so far as to pluck me out of standard class and give me a seat in first class (fancy reclining seats too!) while carrying my bags and asking me where I'm going to get off so that they can come and help me!!! How lovely is that?!

On my train journey home with Southern last night,grrrr,packed to standing room only but managed to get a seat by taking the later train and boarding 25 minutes before departure, the patronising male ticket inspector obviously wanted to liven up the journey for us all so seeing me sitting quietly reading the paper he decided to announce to the whole carriage out of the blue "this is the easy bit love, wait till you're at home with a crying baby!". Hmmm, pregnant much are you chump?! Give me home with my children any day over smelly, overcrowded, overpriced cattle cart of a train journey twice a day!! Now, about that lottery win to make that life a reality....

Okay, rant over :)

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compo · 17/08/2010 15:11

Lol

That is crap they told you something that wasn't true

I always think of women in other countries who carry babies and water on their heads just to live

when I was pregant I had a mile to walk to work and back. The world and his wife told me I wouldn't be able to carry on working with such a commute Hmm of course it was fine, and I dud remind them of women in the third world sewing seeds etc when heavily pregnant

it's not an illness

Valbonne09 · 17/08/2010 15:24

True about 3rd world countries, makes me very self centred I know, but the inside of the 6.20pm doesn't feel all that civilised for the western world!

And, having been sick daily for the last 20 weeks finding that my usual protest to husband (who can get a tad too overprotective with the best of them) that 'It's not an illness' rings a bit hollow now!

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Swazzee · 17/08/2010 16:07

I'll join you in your rant about Southern Valbonne. At the weekend it took me an hour 45 to make what should have been a 20 minute journey, thanks to their rail replacement bus 'service' which didn't turn up for 45 minutes and then skipped out the station I wanted (despite it being listed on the crappy piece of paper stuck up in the window). Bus driver was very rude to me too. Aaarrrghghghgh! I hate commuting in London!!

Am lucky with my station that when I get on in the morning it's nearly empty (one of the few benefits of living near a depot), so I always get a seat. But I do hate the steps up to the platform - why can't any of their stations have lifts?? I'm 25 weeks pregnant with twins and getting pretty big to be climbing Mount Everest every day...

AND, what's the deal with their seats being so close together? Hardly any room between them and if you get one of the old ones where the seats face each other, there's no legroom!

Aaargh. Hate those overpriced cattle trucks.

Shall we set up a 'pregnant women on Southern trains lottery syndicate'....?

Valbonne09 · 18/08/2010 13:31

LOL - I feel your pain but goodness, with twins on board you must be having a mare doing the commute. Syndicate sounds good; who cares about trains - we'll just take the chopper in to town or better yet be ladies of leisure (albeit with small babies!).

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hopingforanother · 18/08/2010 13:46

I travel on Southeastern trains with my DD who is 3.5. I'm 33+3 and neither of us ever get offered a seat (and no she isn't ill either, just has little legs which get tired more quickly than the grown ups legs), luckily though they don't seem to do 1st class so I didn't get swindled! My expectations were already at a low!!!

Luckily the people on the tube (second part of journey) seem to be of the opinion that though preg isn't an illness, they would rather give an uncomfortable heavily pg woman a seat than have her delay their journey by passing out - and maybe some of them see it as a nice thing to do!!! This is an approach I enjoy.

Valbonne I feel angry on your behalf - are they going to refund you for your mis-sold ticket?

hopingforanother · 18/08/2010 13:50

p.s rantng about it really does help doesn't it!

Swazzee · 18/08/2010 14:33

yes, Hoping it does help. I was surprised by how I felt better after posting!

Valbonne09 · 20/08/2010 15:42

Definitely, felt heaps better having just written my rant out!

Still waiting to hear back from Southern about what they intend to do. I got a reply back from them within 24 hours when I first queried it with them but since coming back to their outraged response asking where I heard such tosh from and having replied it was from their own customer service and ticket sales they've gone very very quiet!!

Have you got one of those badges from TFL for your tube journeys that says BABY ON BOARD? I know to us it is extremely obvious we are pregnant but think that it helps make it clearer to those trying to avoid eye contact while they decided whether you are or your aren't and they also illustrate that TFL recognise that pregnant women deserve to be offered a seat. I've given up taking the tube all together now after fainting for the 2nd time but it worked a treat at the beginning when I felt so sick the whole time and really needed to sit down.

Best of luck to all!!

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Swazzee · 20/08/2010 16:12

I have the BOB badge, but I left it on a top which I then washed and it's now gone rusty and orange around the edge. Still wear it though, and surprised by how many people take no notice of it at all.

Am so happy I never have to get the tube. Overground trains and buses only for me - don't think I could stand getting on the tube - mind you, I've always hated it!

Valbonne hope you hear back from them soon, and get some kind of refund.

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