sick sick sick and FED UP!!

[angels1]

I'm now 9 weeks pg and have had nausea starting from 3 weeks (yes, 3 weeks!!!). At 6 weeks my doc put me on medication, 7 weeks was put on another medication as 1st one wasn't helping. This did seem to really help, although I still felt sick alot, I at least most of the time felt like I could cope with being pg (which I really felt I couldn't before).

I seem to have been getting progressively worse on the sickness front, allbeit with some days better than others (a good day not really being 'good' but where I don't feel like I'm permenantely going to throw up all day).

I have been trying to do what i can, when i can (pottering round the garden, loading the dishwasher etc when i can manage it), but still rest alot, but i haven't really been out of the house now for FIVE WEEKS! i really feel too sick to do anything. and to top it off, this morning i was due to see the doc to be referred to the mw (had had bleeding problem so doc wouldn't refer me till scan said it was ok) but was suddenly reaching up my toast 5 mins before going so had to cancel (managed to get referral on phone though).

I have tried everything - hynosis, eating little and often, sea sick bands, ginger etc etc.

What I want to know is, are chances this is going to continue to worsen, or do you think i could have peaked and just now continue as i was in my general misery for a few more weeks? If it keeps getting worse for a few more weeks I don't know what I'll do.

I really don't need to hear it might not get better, as the doc has already had great excitement to tell me this, and the only way my brain can think is that it will get better soon. I need some experienced reassurance!

Sorry for the moan, I'm just having a really tough time today and it feels like it'll never end . I don't want anyone to think i don't want to be pg as i feel really blessed and this pg is desperately wanted, I'm just finding this really really hard to deal with (having a terrible phobia of being sick is not helping~)

Hi Angels1, sorry to hear you are feeling so dreadful. I am also 9 weeks pregnant and am miserable with morning sickness and tiredness - although mine doesn't sound as bad as yours.

I've read that morning sickness usually peaks at around weeks 9 and 10 so hopefully you are nearly through the worst of it. In my previous pregnancy, the sickness disappeared at around 14 weeks and I felt great for the rest of my pregnancy. I am literally counting the days til this misery is over!

I hope you feel better soon, I promise you, it's all worth it in the end. x

oh poor you! I was exactly like this during my first pregnancy and wanted a termination at 14 weeks. Fortunately people around me were very encouraging and I spoke to close family daily who kept me going. Even then, I was depressed.

I've just mentioned in another post that my sickness only eased (very suddenly) when I had an injection. I suffered from such a hard hitting side-effect unfortunately but it certainly stopped me being sick where non of the tablets given to me had. Perhaps you could try that once you're out of the first trimester (or perhaps before if doctors allow it). The injection probably doesn't work so effectively for everyone as it did me but a doctor friend of mine says the injection coupled with IV drip is one of the best things that someone with HG could have, even if it means being repeated again in a couple of weeks or more. It's true, best thing that happened to me during my first pregnancy.

When the sickness temporarily eases, quickly eat things that you fancy, be it junk, just to get your energy levels up again.

I was the same with my last pregnancy, except I started throwing up at about 11/12 weeks and had to have a week's stay in hospital.

This time I have been feeling very sick all the time again, but I am eating better, I have some medication which works up to a point. Some days are worse (like today) than others, I started feeling better when I got out of hospital last time at 13 weeks or so.

This time obviously I am still waiting, I am just trying to ride it out, but having to do the morning and afternoon school runs is a bit of a struggle. Basically I am eating little and often (healthy food is out the window sadly)and keeping hydrated, although I should drink more water. I am resting alot (lazy cow emoticon) and just hoping normal service will resume soon.

Have to drive a good 10 miles or so tomorrow to my 12wk scan, I hope I feel better than I do now or it will be a bit of a trial.

I really do sympathise with you, I hope you feel better soon.

No advice, just sympathy, it's very depressing. I wasn't even nearly as bad as you and I was having very dark thoughts during my early pregnancy.

Hope it gets better for you.

Another one sitting on the sick bench. I just coming up to 10 weeks and I have just spent 4 days in hospital on a drip because the tablets I was given didnt do anything to help me, I have had sickness since 3 weeks too (its how I knew I was pregnant) and it did get worse for me at 9 weeks.

I had gotten to the point where I couldnt keep water down so taking the medication wasnt realyl doing anything and I was vomiting up to 70 times a day (every ten mins or so if thats possible) plus I had a UTI on top of it which was making me feel ten times worse.

My GP admitted me last Tuesday, the stuck a drip up right away and put the cyclazine through the drip, it was weird but after 2 days I could actually taste food again and keep it down mostly, Whilst I was in hospital I was sick only twice each morning and they kept me in until all my ketones where clear and I got home Friday.

Since coming home I am only sick once or twice a day now, I am on cyclazine tablets 3 times a day, although I still feel nauseous ALL the time and I am wretching a lot, nothing is coming up. Which is heaven compared to how I was.

I am just trying to build myself back up now which is hard with no appetite.

I was never this bad with DS's but each time it did get better by 12 weeks so I am holding out for that.

Thing is though, when people say to me "it will all be worth it in the end" I find it hard to believe after 7mc's...

I hope it clears up for you soon.

I completely understand, I have the same phobia and it is so extreme I have been assigned to a consultant for the duration of the pregnancy. I am almost 11 weeks now and the nausea started at 5 weeks and was so bad at week 6 I could only get up to go to the toilet. It's like being on a boat in a hurricane sometimes. I did want to tell you though that for the past week it has been fading and although I wear the wrist bands day and night I'm not taking the medication anymore.

If you feel you need some more support then have a look at this link gutreaction.myfreeforum.org/, it's a forum for people with this phobia and there are quite a few of us that are pregnant.

Stay strong

Wanted to add something as I suffer with this phobia as well and know how mentally challenging morning sickness can be.

I was feeling so sick from weeks 3 to 13 I didn't really leave the house either. I thought at one point if I was actually able to get to the clinic.... well, let's not go there.

The good news is from 12 or 13 weeks it started to get better and now (16+2) I only feel sick/gag if I get too tired, hot or hungry, or eat too quickly, and even then it's not HALF as bad as before.

You can get through it, just think how wonderful you'll feel when it's gone!

Thanks, this helps me feel like I'm not the only one.

It's just hard as up to now at least eating has helped a little....this morning it was eating that made me nearly be sick on the kitchen floor

I'm feeling quite alone at the minute as both my and DH's families are both on holiday, and although DH doing best he can, he doesn't understand.

julezboo I'm on 3 cyclazine a day too, which has sort of done the trick on stopping me be sick up until now.

Needtosleep I will defo go on that support site - I need the support right now! Just can't do it right now as feel too sick . I've been to a therapist for about 5 years for my phobia, which has helped a little, but she just says I need to be sick to get over it, and so far I've just been feeling really really sick and reaching. She wanted to meet me while I feel so bad as she says it's the best time to work on it, but she didn't seem to understand that even thinking or talking about it makes me feel like I might be sick.

It's completely your decision to choose a therapist you believe in but I have been advised to avoid ones that say you need to do 'it' to recover. If they were treating someone with a phobia of being attacked when that went out they wouldn't actually assault their client would they? I've been taking part in a research project run by the Maudsley's anxiety unit and at the moment the best thing they offer is a specific type of CBT.

You can get through this, you haven't been 'ill' so far and people with this phobia seem to be able to prevent it far more than others. Just tell yourself that the meds make it impossible for you to be 'ill' and do whatever makes you feel calm.

thanks needtosleep. That's worked so far (positive thinking that the meds work), which is why I got kinda shocked at nearly being sick (twice) this morning. So far, it's just been bad nausea and feeling sick, but not actually being sick (or close to). My therapist isn't a specialist in sick phobia, but has done other phobias before. I think she's good at what she does, and I think she has helped me (my constant germ hand washing is a bit better and I've managed to eat out a few times in the past year or so which I'd never usually do as I'd be scared of food poisoning) but I'm not sure if she'll ever be able to cure me, but then I don't know if I'm really ever capable of being cured. I've had CBT in the past too but to no avail. I just don't know what will help me, but I feel so terrible right now and feel like I really can't cope. It's so hard for anyone to understand if they don't have a sick phobia. I don't think my GP understands to what extent it ruins my life (was refered to my therapist initially to help me swallow tablets as I'd never been able to swallow pills as was scared I'd choke and be sick)

Do you really think that if I was going to be sick by now then I would have been? If I can believe this may be true, maybe it'll help.

Honestly, if you have been that close to it and fought it then you can do it again. At one point I leant over the toilet (which I have never done before and will hopefully never do again) and was sooo certain 'it' was going to happen but it didn't. You won't stop feeling nauseous and might feel bad for longer than someone who can be 'ill' but you do have what some people call very high v* continence.

I know some people have no sympathy for this but I have been educating my GP by giving him copies of scientific studies, he still doesn't completely understand the extent of it but he's more willing to listen and take me seriously. I was diagnosed with anorexia a few years ago because of my limited diet when it was this phobia and like you I have problems with cleaning too much.

One other thing I didn't mention is that you can request an anti-emetic injection during labour if you feel it would help. Apparently this injection is quite common.

Anytime you feel you need to chat then I'm listening

just wanted to post as I too have a severe phobia of being sick - have had it all my life. I had bad MS until 20 weeks. For the first 12 weeks I felt really, really nauseous all the time but was able to not actually be sick, mostly by refusing to let myself!). From 12 to 20 weeks I had a constant retching and gagging sensation in the bag of my throat which did actually make me throw up a couple of times. I found it really hard to cope with, as will anyone with this phobia, but it DOES PASS eventually and then yo will feel so much better.
If you really want to avoid being sick you have to keep eating. The only times I ever actually threw up was when I had not eaten enough. If I could manage to force something digestible down, I never once threw it up again afterwards.
I took cyclizine and metaclopromide together - cyclizine on its own didn't do enough for me. Ask your GP for a metaclopromide prescription and alternate between the two - they both work in different ways. Metaclopromide closes the valve and the top of the stomach and opens the one at the bottom to encourage gastric emptying, as well as acting on the vomiting centre in the brain. Cyclizine only works on the brain.
I know the advice to keep eating is hard to follow. At first I thought if I didn't eat anything I would never be sick because there would be nothing in my tummy, but this is just not true. You just throw up bile and fluid anyway even if you haven't eaten. In any event - you have to keep eating and drinking for the baby, no matter how hard that seems.
I also could hardly go out of the house for weeks on end.
What you have to keep telling yourself is that this will pass. Every day that you get through brings you another step closer to feeling better. If I can survive it anyone can. Hang in there.

yes, that's how I'm getting through - it's like being in prison - with every day that passes I can tick it off and know that I'm one step closer to freedom from feeling sick. Have been managing to eat fairly reg today. In previous days I've been having to eat about every hour or so to help the nausea, and whilst I agree with you addie that you need to eat to help the nausea, I also worry as it was eating my marmite on toast this morning that made me nearly throw up . I just feel so pathetic but I'm glad I'm not the only one who has struggled through a sick phobia. I don't eat out, I don't stay at hotels, I clean comnpulsively, I avoid certain foods, I wash my hands obsessively, I avoid certain activities etc etc because of this, adn yet I find myself stuck with chances are at least 3 more weeks of this.

Btw great thought needtosleep on antiemetic for labour as I had already been really worried about this too.

Am just off to do my morning sickness hypnotherapy

I am feeling sick reading this. My MS wears off at around 12 weeks.

Its only a thought, have you tried sipping very cold milk? It worked for me but only in one of my pregnancies. I found that I got some releif as the milk hit my stomach, it would wear off again after a few minutes which is why i constantly sipped on it.

Good luck.

thanks on edge. I've found crisps have really helped today I will try cold cold milk when I can think about stomaching it.

There seems to be alot of 'it'll end at 12+ weeks' but not alot of people hitting rock bottom by week 9....not a good sign

Think it's because your Hcg levels peak during that week then they settle down (it is common to feel at your worst in week 9). No one really knows why some women get ms but I bet that if a man ever got pregnant there would be a cure

I agree needtosleep. I also think if men went through this they would have worked out medication of something for a more comfortable way to go through labour!

I'm feeling for you. I know that you would do
almost anything to make it stop.

I got quite depressed having my DS as I got
terrible morning sickness too and didn't
leave the house for weeks because I was too
ill and the fear of being sick. DR's did nothing too. I almost started to resent being pregnant.

On the plus side, there is one, I've got a lovely toddler now and my MS went away almost overnight from 12 weeks. It was worse through 8-9 week mark. So, you are getting over the hill so to speak.

I just read that HCG levels peak between 8 and 10 weeks, then get less, and they say ms is roughly equated to these levels, so I'm really hoping I've reached/reaching my HCG peak and it will start declining.

It's so easy to say it gets better at 12 weeks.....it just seems like a long way away at the minute!!