any thoughts of how to get 5.4 ds out of nappies at night?

[GlastonburyGoddess]

ok, ds is dry during the day, but was wearing pullups at night. have now had to change to huggies pj pants- 1o in a pack for nrly £6!! ahh as the pullups were cutting into him. this is not ideal due to the cost as well as having ds2 still in nappies.
he no signs of being dry on waking eg he is soaking wet on waking and usually so are his pjs and sometimes sheets.

i have tried restricting his fluid intake in the afternoon/evening but cant get him off his drik he goes to bed with(currently being assessed for aspergers/adhd etc so behaviour probs +++)

any ideas, tips or thoughts...?

ok bumping and after reading some threads further down can anyone recommend a cloth pullup/nappy for a large child eg hes 5.4 for 99th centile for height and weight, so large for age. if hes going to be wet for now, is there a washable that i could buy a few of and save on these expensive pj pants??

Don't restrict his fluid intake until an hour before bed.

Children need to drink plenty throughout the day so that their bladders become strong, toned and stretched - it's only a strong toned bladder that can hold the capacity overnight. Children that don't drink enough have weak flabby bladders that aren't being given a 'workout', so can't hold the urine for long overnight.

Drinking 6-8 drinks a day, preferably between waking and say 1800, as well as 2-3 hour toileting is a good way to tone the bladder. The other part is that a strong stretchy bladder sends a stronger signal to the brain when the child is asleep, telling them to wake to wee.

Some children don't make enough of the hormone that slows down wee production overnight so you may want to see your GP to discuss whether it's worth trying the tablet form of the hormone (Desmopressin).

Also pullups are great for keeping children dry, but sometimes if they feel dry they don't get the signal to wake when wet as they aren't feeling wet IYKWIM.

Can't help with bigger/cheaper pullups I'm afraid, they are expensive aren't they?

im worried tbh that he will take after me-i wet the bed till 15(not sure if this was due to v v abusive upbringing or hormone lacking??) maybe trip to gp. was thinking that once the weather starts being consistantly drier, to remove pullups and just "cold turkey" him and see if that works, worth a try do you think?

It's definitely worth a try - sometimes children need to feel wet to strengthen that brain/bladder signal. What seems to happen is that as they start to wet themselves at night and feel it, the brain goes oh hang on you're wet, wake up and sort it out. Then often the brain will start waking before the child wets, a bit like when your alarm is set for 0630 but you always wake up at 0625 as you know your alarm is going to go off shortly.

This works best in conjunction with the bladder training and toning as the strong stretchy bladder sends stronger signals.

It's very relevant that you wet until 15, apparently when one parent was a late wetter it makes it something like 30% more likely that their children will be later achieving night time dryness (can't remember exact figures). Always worth a trip to GP too just to exclude infection, low hormone levels etc.

Good luck

Look on pshealthcare.org.uk and click on upseydaisy childrens products. They have some washable bedtime pants which sound just what you are looking for, look like pyjama shorts and go up to age 12! The company are very helpful over the phone, and also have a continence advisor you can contact.

thanks for that girly. have bookmarked site, will try going "cold turkey" in a few weeks and if we have no success Im going to try their pants, thankyou x

I went cold turkey with dd, whose nappies were sodden every morning. I read on here that wet nappies in the morning weren't necessarily a sign that they weren't ready to go without.

I had tried going without nappies a few months earlier with no joy, but the second time, just before her 5th birthday, she was dry from the get go. I didn't restrict drinks, lift her or anything, she was just ready.

Might be worth just giving it a go.

BTW are you really a Glastonbury Goddess?

lol far from it surfer, more sarcasm than anything iyswim lol

Happy Heinies are stuffable pants - come in big sizes - we found 3 in rotation served for ds, who is also a 99th centile chap & wasn't reliably dry at night until age 4.

Can't remember where we got them from but you could google?