to lift or not to lift

[mamacoffee]

I read a few mums on here saying recent evidence suggests lifting can be harmful to night training because the body doesn't learn to wake up for a wee, but no one has cited any evidence for this, does anyone know?, I just want to assess the evidence for myself,

Can't cite any scientific evidence (how would such evidence be produced anyway?)

But logically, if you lift a child & take it to the loo to pee in its sleep - which is what you want it to stop doing!!! - how is that going to help? (Apart from possibly keeping the bed dry)

Its not recent evidence. My dcs are 16 and 18 and it was known when they were little that lifting was not good.
I think there may be something on the eric website.

here is some research

another article

Agree with TheOne

here is some research

here is some research

Thanks for the link that's helpful.

Do children who are dry at night actually get up in the night anyway or do they just sleep through but not wee at night?

Some get up, some sleep through - depends on a variety of factors including bladder capacity

When my DD night-trained, we used to lift her for a night-time wee when we went to bed and from then on there were no more accidents at night at all. We phased it out at around 3 and she's remained completely dry at night. We have left a potty in her room, right next to her bed, so that it is easy and quick to get up for a wee, which is what she does when she needs to.
All the best with training!

Night time dryness is nothing to do with training. It is parly to do with hormones being released that stop the secretion of urine in the sleep.
Ds was dry at night before he was dry in the day. He never ever wet the bed. Dd was a different story and took until she was 4. A full 2 years after dry in the day. Lifting may empty the bladder but it does not teach a child to recognise a full bladder.

When I say 'night trained' I mean that she stopped doing wees in the night. We assumed that it we couldn't actively 'train' for this because she'd be asleep. We noticed that her nappies were dry in the mornings and stopped using them. She had a few accidents, we did lifting for about 4 months, then she was completely dry.