Night time wet issues nearly 6 year old advice please

[foreverondiet]

DS1 is nearly 6. Was toilet trained early ie at 2 years and 3 months but had operation under GA aged 4 and since then (we think?) wet again a lot in day. Was never dry at night.

Daytime wetting is due to irritable bladder he is on medication (because he needs to be dry at school). I am not bothered by night time wetting. Pediatrician happy to medicate but I said no and will reassess at 7.

I just bought a stack of underjams (as on offer in tesco) and DS1 saw the stack (15 packs!) and is very upset, wants to be dry. We discussed medication and alarms, but he want to do it himself. Have hidden the nappies now in cupboard out of his sight.

Proclaimed himself dry on Sat and Sun morning but transpired he'd changed pull up when he woke up! (I found in bin under his bed).

I woke him at 11pm last night (usually a disaster when I try and he wont wee unless totally awake) he did a big wee but was still wet this morning. I think he is not physically ready and TBH more bothered by daytime issues (often wet in day...) But clearly its bothering him.

He is a very deep sleeper plus lacks bladder control (ie daytime wetting) so I suspect it will be a long while before dry at night. DS2 now 21 months and I am very conscious that he might be dry at night first.

[foreverondiet]

Any advice about what to do? Or words of wisdom.

[WannaBeEstella]

OP my DS recently (last 4 weeks) cracked night time staying dry. At just gone 8. He has ASD which may or may not be related.
What worked was sticking to a rigid routine recommended by the Enuresis clinic.....7-8 drinks per day, all before 6.30pm. No milk/milk based drinks after 3.30pm- apparently milk takes longer to pass through. No fizzy drinks/r*bena.
We did a chart- and he kept it himself. He was really motivated and is thrilled with his success.

[BoringSchoolChoiceNickname]

Is he old enough to show him a website or book in the subject which explains that he's in the normal range? He might not accept reassurance from you, but at his age something more "official" might work better - and as I understand it the problem is his worry, rather than the wetting itself.

[foreverondiet]

wannabe - thanks extremely helpful and well done to your ds.

I suspect Ds1 is not drinking enough in the day - how much was each drink to be? Interesting about milk. He only has milk with breakfast (with nesquick) never ever has fizzy or ribena but does drink apple juice which is probably higher in sugar. I can't drive the school mad with drink chart as I am already driving them mad with a going to toilet at breaktime chart at school as i need to keep him dry in day.

boring yes problem is his worry, because happy for him to wear pull-ups and don't really get why people seem to be concerned with 3 and 4 year olds....good idea he can read now, and is good at maths will look up the x% by each age charts.....he said none of his friends wear night nappies but I pointed out they may not be telling truth.... just getting to age for sleepovers hence his concern.

[WannaBeEstella]

I think each drink was to be 150ml. He has 3 at breakfast (their advice),plus 2 in lunch box (Actimel and a smoothie) and then it's only 2 more when he gets home. One of those is usually warm milk/cocoa.
He is dying to go to the loo when he gets to school.
He goes 2-3 times before bed, at my insistence.