I just need to come here and go ARGH ARGH ARGH ARGH

[WilfShelf]

If I have to tip/scrape/wipe ANOTHER POO from a pair of pants, or change wet trousers I am going to self-eviscerate.

He KNOWS how to do it. He wants to do it. He understands it all. He just won't do it, I'm sure.

God, I've even done this twice before with DS1 and 2. I should really know how. Please give me all your best help

[we've done/are doing stickers, bribery with chocolate buttons, new pants, big boys' toilet, sitting with him, reading stories, doing nothing, going by routine, leaving it up to the nursery to sort out... It is DOING MY HEAD IN.]

I'm there too and it's a dark place. DS 'got it' then got mumps over6 weeks ago and has now reverted to pooing and weeing with surprise instead of preparation.

I'll join you

DS3 is 3yrs nearly 4 months.

He's currently back in a nappy today.

He doesn't really "get it" yet..........well I don't think he does.

However he's been insisting on pants on his play days at nursery and he's come home with the same pair on 3 hours later - some time he wets himself when we get home (in huge style) other times he's been to the toilet when they've asked him.

He gets home, he demands a nappy - I say no he's been a big boy at nursery he doesn't need a nappy at home. He spends the entire afternoon weeing and pooing in his pants and point blank refusing to use the toilet or potty

He starts going properly next week.........I'm hoping he may "click" there - and then it'll trasnfer to home.

Is it really awful to say I'm glad it isn't just me?

We've have been faffing about for so long, the constant moving back to nappies was hindering things, so we've gone for a 'pants at daytime', 'nappies at nighttime' rule. He is basically managing most of the day (with 1 or 2 accidents some days) at nursery, but then either saving it all up or just not bothering when he comes home.

And I'm trying different approaches (not all at the same time obv): taking him regularly, asking him to go on his own, leaving him to it - nothing is really helping. I KNOW he's ready - he's been 'ready' for ages. It's this permanent state of being HALF there that I can't bear: what can I do?

Sympathy, I hated potty training. (both "done" now thank goodness)

A tip I read on here was to buy some really really cheap pants. use them either all the time, or on days that you just know you cannot face washing them. If you are having a terrible day and scraping poo will send you over the edge then bin them.

onepiece - I have about 40 pairs of pants (seriously - I kept DS1 and 2's old ones - and DS2 was really quick - well almost instantly - to train so I hardly threw any away). Then I bought him new ones to "bribe" him (DS3), then exH bought him some as well.

DS3 is just like DS1 was - 6/7/8/9/10 accidents a day. And just point blank refusing to use the potty or toilet at home, no matter how I approach it.....

I had dozens of pants too MaMo (not sure where they came from; I only have 2 girlsc). On a bad day it helped me knowing that some of them were getting genuinely worn out and if dd2 pooed then I didn't have to scrub them. I would tip the worst down the loo but just bin them.
I probably only chucked about 6 pairs but it helped!

wow lucky you - I think I chucked about 20 pairs of pants with DS1 (he took about 4 months to "crack" - and that was going "cold turkey" on the nappies,........

DS3 I've chucked about 6 or 7 pairs already .

Best of luck with your ds3. :)

DS weed in his new shoes today. No poo at all so tomorrow should be all explosive fun with the potty within arms reach at all times.

Give them a good wipe with babywipes gilly :)

Good luck with it tomorrow.

Onwards and upwards onepiece, if a little on the damp side. Thanks x

That's the spirit (been there twice, in fact my two were by all accounts "easy" to train! haha I was a whimpering wreck)

And the whole house stinks of piss, however quickly I clean up. Yum.

Good luck with it Wilf this too shall pass. (I mean that in a sympathetic way btw) :)

I won't patronise you with the usual platitudes.

However, you know how this path goes. You get frustrated, it gets better, it gets worse, then it gets better etc.

Please try to remember fairly few university students have their mums wiping their bums for them.

I have one mostly dry and clean and one totally incontinent. I'd call that pretty much a success (sort of)

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

I do know. We just need our hands holding. One day, I won't have to have my heart sink again because I've forgotten to bring a spare set of clothes and the munchkin is walking bandy with a suspicious lump in his pants, which is sliding slowly but purposefully down his leg.

Oh God, Wilf I couldn't stop laughing then! I have recently stored spares in the pram and car to avoid such a scenario. It will be such a relief to all of us when it's over. I'm hoping to be pregnant again next year and I swear I'll have the next one on the potty as soon as it sits up!

DD (4) came home the other day in a pair of 12-18 month blue shorts that I'd found in the boot in just such a situation. She looked very odd.

i want to come and weep with you all. DD seemed to have 'got it' and now she's a nightmare. Accidents all the time. Difficult to toilet when we need her to go (before going out or something). I've tried so hard not to get cross but I find it so stressful

My MIL made stupid comments the other day too. I hate collecting her from the CM to find out how many pairs of pants/trousers she's gone through. She is much worse there.

I've bought some Peppa Pig/Dora knickers to try and get her to think they're special and not for weeing in.

We have two days of relative success . DS3 pooed on the potty yesterday morning, then ASKED to go to do a poo at nursery; and then today at nursery he went a WHOLE day with no accidents and again tgook himself to the loo to poo.

Please god let it last...