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Is your child ready for potty training at nursery? Here's the place for all your toilet training questions.

Just done the first day of potty training, please can you tell me if we should soldier on or if DS is not ready?

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BumptiousandBustly · 24/07/2010 16:30

Reasons why I think he's ready:

He has peed in the toilet three or four times today

He asks to sit on the toilet (sometimes), is really interested in the process, really enjoys wearing pants, and has been asking to use the toilet/potty for a while, he also tries to clean his own bottom.

he has VERY good communication

he is very resistant to the idea of going back into nappies

Reasons I don't think he's ready

He is only 2.4

He has peed on the floor 3 times today (including a really big pee minutes after doing a small one on the loo)

He doesn't tell us when he needs to pee, I feel that the fact that he has peed in the loo so many times today is just that he happened to be sitting there when it came out. In fact I am not at all sure he has understood the concept of telling us before he pees.

I really don't mind if he is not ready, I have only tried it because he kept asking to sit on the loo and trying to wipe his own bum.

Please can you tell me, do you think I should stop and wait a while, or is this a normal part of the process and I should carry on? If so, how long is it likely to take before he understands he has to tell us before he does it?

Many thanks for any advice/suggestions

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MunchMummy · 25/07/2010 16:47

Hope you don't mind me crashing your thread again.

DD2, 2.1 on her 3rd day today.

She is definately 'telling' us when she needs to go, by holding herself, up to 2 mins before she goes, but she's not telling us verbally yet.

She has very good speach also (easily talking in 5-6 word sentences), so I'm guessing it'll click one day that she needs to ask us first.

Our problem is that she is a VERY independent child, and quite often dissapears off to play by herself in another room. Kind of a problem if she 'holds' herself and I'm in another room playing with DD1.

But its only day 3 and I really want this to work this time before Sept.

Even went for a walk this morning followed by a trip to the playground and no accidents. She seems to hold on for ages. Today it was from 8am to 3:30 - no kidding. We went out for the day as well, and although she didn't have much drink she kept herself dry. Even had the potty on some string around the buggy, but we didn't need it.

Well done though OP - keep going. We could be laughing about this in a couple of weeks time

bibbitybobbityhat · 25/07/2010 16:53

Can I just say, in this hot weather, it is better to start them off without any pants at all. So bare from the waist down. They seem to "feel" the need to wee quicker.

If you are using a potty rather than the toilet, have you got one upstairs and one downstairs? If they are confident they can get there quickly that also seems to mean fewer accidents.

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BumptiousandBustly · 25/07/2010 17:42

We had a really good day, and then three accidents in a row!

Munchmummy, he is holding himself, which is a good signal, but is also just enjoying playing with it, so can't always tell. This evening he is just in a MOOD anyway, so saying NO to everything!

Bibbyity, good idea, but he seems to want the pants on. We are using the toilet, but also he is really only upstairs at bedtime, so close to one downstairs all the time.

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iskra · 25/07/2010 18:46

this is the thread I wanted to start!

I started seriously trying to train DD - 2.1 month - last week, & after 3 days yesterday was feeling so disheartened about it - we were at 50% success rate. Like yours, BumptiousandBustly, she doesn't ask to go (she's asked a total of 4 times), it's a matter of her happening to be on the potty at the right moment. So yesterday evening after a huge poo in the pants outside a restaurant (!) I wanted to quit. But today we've had total success! So... maybe it's worth pegging on for a while longer.

I am really keen to get her trained by October, because we are going for an extended stay somewhere where nappies are not easily available, & the thought of washing out countless cloth nappies by hand (let alone carrying them there) leaves me cold. Everyone else I know is of the "leave them till 3 & they train in a day" school of thought, & I feel a bit mad for trying to do it now. But today DD told me "I do got wee-wee" & went & sat on her potty...

bibbitybobbityhat · 25/07/2010 20:28

Again, imvho, 2.6 years to 3.0 years seems to be optimum time for the first born in a family.

Younger siblings seem to catch on quicker. Especially girls. I do know a few girls who were properly potty trained at 2 or thereabouts, but they did have older sisters.

pigletmania · 25/07/2010 21:45

Thats good Bumpilicious, he will do in time, at first my dd would do wees on the potty when taken then she started going by herself.

BumptiousandBustly · 26/07/2010 19:11

Well, only once accident today at Nursery, AND he did a pee on the loo when he came home.

Tomorrow is my first day alone with him and DS2 so will update about how we all survive that!

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BumptiousandBustly · 27/07/2010 09:28

Good news and bad news, DS1 told us he needed a pee this morning, and did it in the loo! Which was brilliant.

Twenty mins later, he pooed in his pants!

You win some, you loose some.

Still very pleased about telling us he needed to pee though. Feels like a real step forward.

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abroadandmisunderstood · 27/07/2010 09:36

So is everyone keeping their DC dressed, in pants or pullups and trousers/skirts? Or is it easier to go naked? DS2 is 2.5 and no success at all so far. DS1 was very late getting the hang of toilet training 3.5, so I'm not used to someone so young to train.

BumptiousandBustly · 27/07/2010 10:09

abroad, we have put DS in pants, mainly because he loves them, and is very exited about wearing them. However at home, he is mainly just in pants, and then I dress him properly if we go out.

I have been told that being in pullups can confuse them, adn we were already using pull up nappies for DS, so couldn't really claim they were pants!

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skidoodly · 27/07/2010 14:24

DD is going naked from the waist down here unless we go out when I dress her properly.

We're on day 2, she's 2.4.

I've no idea if this is working. We're only trying again because yesterday morning she announced she needed the potty, went off and weed on it and then asked to put on knickers instead of a nappy. I've nothing much on this week, so I thought I'd go along with it.

lukewarmcupoftea · 27/07/2010 14:35

Can I watch for any useful advice as well please?

We started dd1 on Saturday (she's 2.11). 1 success sat, 2 on sun. Yesterday was horrific, many we accidents, we tried to honour in the morning, so maybe not such a good idea. She also hadn't done a poo since Friday (normally once or twice a day), so was constipated, crying and was listless then actually sick in the evening. Better today (gave her prunes yesterday!), big poo in nappy this morning, poo on the floor, and another in her nappy which I'd just put on for her lunchtime nap. One wee in the potty this morning, and no weeing accidents, just the poo.

I'm very glad she's not constipated any more, but we've basically only had 3 successes so far (all in the garden for some reason), and the poo thing is worrying me. To carry on or not? God I hate this!

lukewarmcupoftea · 27/07/2010 14:37

Sorry, really should have previewed that, blooming predictive text... Should say 'many wee accidents, tried to go out in the morning'

BumptiousandBustly · 27/07/2010 14:58

WEll DS has asked to go to the loo twice today to pee! So very pleased with that, however he has pooed in his pants. Mixed fortunes, but better than it was, we are on day 4!

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skidoodly · 27/07/2010 15:07

So far today we have had 2 wees in the potty, 2 on the floor, a trip to the shop with no accidents, and a poo in the pants.

She's still not asking to use the potty and is starting to get cross with me reminding her.

I've decided to just keep going until early next week and just see how she gets on. That kind of takes the pressure off. I don't really care if there is much progress day to day, we'll just have to see at the end of the week if she's getting the idea or not.

lukewarm - that would worry me with the poos. I took ages to toilet train for poos and I remember being terrified of pooing "in the open" (as it were), particularly on a toilet (the idea of the splash was a big fear).

Has she been able to give you any idea of how she feels about doing her poos in the potty?

MunchMummy · 27/07/2010 18:26

Well I've given up. After a major tantrum yesterday in which she kept saying no to the potty and pointing at nappies I've concluded that although she spent 2 weeks telling me she wanted the potty she's not ready. So I'm going to leave it until the end of August and try again.

But then my DD2 is VERY defiant and I'm sure we arn't going to beable to coax her into training. She'll only do it when SHE wants to and I can't see that its going to be any different. Not that she's in control of us, she's just very independant and defiant.

lukewarmcupoftea · 28/07/2010 09:53

Munchmummy - that sounds like the best plan tbh, I think there is absolutely no point doing this if it's upsetting them. That way lies ishoos in the future! Best to be grateful you don't have to worry about where the nearest loo is, and try again when it doesn't feel like you're fighting a losing battle!

We've got past the initial constipation problem (thank goodness), and dd is asking to use the loo for wees and poos. Generally when she's either already done it in her pants, or with a two second warning. But still, she's happy about it, so we will persvere for a bit longer. I'd be interested to know if they do gradually give you more and more warning, or whether this just means that she's actually not physically capable yet of much control?

BumptiousandBustly · 29/07/2010 13:47

Well, DS is now telling me when he needs to go to the toilet to do a pee, but no progress on the bowel movements. The last two days, have been in his pants.

How are you all finding it, is this normal and how long does the bowel control take?

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BumptiousandBustly · 30/07/2010 11:56

Today DS did a poo on the loo!!! HURRAY!

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lukewarmcupoftea · 30/07/2010 13:24

Hooray indeed!!

We're having the opposite problem, no poos at all. Wees are going quite well, more successes than accidents, but she is just completely witholding her poo. We're giving her prunes and prune juice, so something has to come out eventually, I don't even care where it comes out so long as it does!

So day 7, still soldiering on... According to my gf potty training book it should be done and dusted by now, ha ha.

BumptiousandBustly · 30/07/2010 16:15

lukewarm, the peeing, seems mostly sorted by now here, though that is very much fingers crossed, as I think if he got exiting or involved in something he would forget. But today is the first day he has has consciously pooed in the potty, so am just hoping it continues! Good luck (and like you say, it has to come out sometime)

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GraceK · 23/08/2010 23:20

Trained DD1 at 22 months (as she drinks loads & was pee-ing through 2 layers of real nappies, so it was either training or disposables). Most useful thing anyone said to me, is remember they are learning a new skill & it takes time. Could you learn to ride a bike / use roller skates, etc in just 24 hours? They need time to get the idea - keep a record of your hits / misses / nearlys and if you're not making progress after 3/4 days then give up for a few months but keep going if you're making progress. Also don't put them back into nappies except at night - as it confuses them as to when it's acceptable to pee in their pants & when not.

Good luck

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